Roids are better than most surgery

[ivan.kuk]

Roids masculanize your face all around, while surgery can only target parts of your bones. Plus its way more expensive and you can get botched.

 

[ivan.kuk]

I’ll be running roids and getting some chin filler in the future.

 

[Foreverbrad]

I agree, roids saved my life, Trimax ruined it

 

[Surfsup]

I agree, roids saved my life, Trimax ruined it

How do u mitigate the side effects

 

[esoterik]

bahahahahaha

 

[esoterik]

I agree, roids saved my life, Trimax ruined it

thats just a anecdotal experience, i had multiple procedures, from implants, to rhino, to fat grafts, my anecdotal experience is surgery saved my life

 

[Foreverbrad]

How do u mitigate the side effects

I didn’t have any ever tbh
Finasteride, AIs, SERMs, etc etc
I’m gonna blast tren after my surgery like a gram. Fuck living.

 

[Foreverbrad]

thats just a anecdotal experience, i had multiple procedures, from implants, to rhino, to fat grafts, my anecdotal experience is surgery saved my life

The problem is my ortho prep has taken 2+ years and I’m going/gone insane. Jaw is the worse surgery. My fat grafting was good though I’m still incel,

 

[Surfsup]

I didn’t have any ever tbh
Finasteride, AIs, SERMs, etc etc
I’m gonna blast tren after my surgery like a gram. Fuck living.

Maybe I should blast too I hate living
Muh health like bro I don't even wanna be alive

 

[Surfsup]

I didn’t have any ever tbh
Finasteride, AIs, SERMs, etc etc
I’m gonna blast tren after my surgery like a gram. Fuck living.

What a brad

 

[esoterik]

The problem is my ortho prep has taken 2+ years and I’m going/gone insane. Jaw is the worse surgery. My fat grafting was good though I’m still incel,

so how did a few osteotomies that you haven't even gotten ruin your life?

 

[Foreverbrad]

so how did a few osteotomies that you haven't even gotten ruin your life?

Before I started the ortho prep I at least wasn’t completely incel.
Now my overbite is retarded and I have braces, no way any girl would DTF.
I could have just blasted tren and spent these last 2-3 years slaying but I was too greedy and wanted more.

 

[esoterik]

Before I started the ortho prep I at least wasn’t completely incel.
Now my overbite is retarded and I have braces, no way any girl would DTF.
I could have just blasted tren and spent these last 2-3 years slaying but I was too greedy and wanted more.

.. okay so trimax didnt ruin your life... prep did lol

 

[Foreverbrad]

.. okay so trimax didnt ruin your life... prep did lol

Exactly…. Choose your orthodontist wisely.

 

[Jgns]

The problem is my ortho prep has taken 2+ years and I’m going/gone insane. Jaw is the worse surgery. My fat grafting was good though I’m still incel,

I heard a corticotomy can speed it up by alot

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Meh, roids age you like shit and if you’re prone to balding it’s over.

And once you’re past a certain age you don’t get any benefits facially besides possibly a thicker browridge.

And you can’t be 100% sure of the results you’ll receive from roids, unlike surgery which unless you get botched are assured to give results.

 

[Foreverbrad]

I heard a corticotomy can speed it up by alot

There are a lot of things I wish I knew at the start and it’s not widely talked about on here. I

 

[Jgns]

There are a lot of things I wish I knew at the start and it’s not widely talked about on here. I

I mean i think u can still get it done, maybe u could seitch orthos and have it done, it’s a surgery

 

[Foreverbrad]

I mean i think u can still get it done, maybe u could seitch orthos and have it done, it’s a surgery

I’m basically finished ortho now. It’s something I would have needed to know two years ago. Unfortunately.

 

[Jgns]

I’m basically finished ortho now. It’s something I would have needed to know two years ago. Unfortunately.

Damn I’m sorry then bro, i hope it’s worth it after tho and u slay hard and feel sick

 

[ivan.kuk]

And once you’re past a certain age you don’t get any benefits facially besides possibly a thicker browridge.

Got a source for that bud? Or even any examples?

 

[ivan.kuk]

I’m basically finished ortho now. It’s something I would have needed to know two years ago. Unfortunately.

Where do your slays come from?

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Got a source for that bud? Or even any examples?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26400740/

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Got a source for that bud? Or even any examples?

I’ve only seen younger guys that use steroids get a thicker/more prominent browridge, as for mandible changes it can still be somewhat masculinized till early adulthood

 

[ivan.kuk]

I’ve only seen younger guys that use steroids get a thicker/more prominent browridge, as for mandible changes it can still be somewhat masculinized till early adulthood

I've seen 20+ guys get observable differences too. Faustum would be one example

 

[ivan.kuk]

I’ve only seen younger guys that use steroids get a thicker/more prominent browridge, as for mandible changes it can still be somewhat masculinized till early adulthood

https://looksmax.org/threads/my-6-month-ascension-on-roids-pharma.2315518/

 

[buccalfatremoval]

I've seen 20+ guys get observable differences too. Faustum would be one example View attachment 5566341

Soft tissue changes sure, roids help with facial fat distribution i never denied that, im just talking about actual morphology of bones
I use steroids myself

 

[ivan.kuk]

Soft tissue changes sure, roids help with facial fat distribution i never denied that, im just talking about actual morphology of bones
I use steroids myself

Whatever it is, either bone or soft tissue, the end result is observable and what matters.

Is it possible to see your results?

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Whatever it is, either bone or soft tissue, the end result is observable and what matters.

Obviously but you’d have greater results from surgeries

Is it possible to see your results?

I’d rather not post my face anymore tbh

 

[ivan.kuk]

Obviously but you’d have greater results from surgeries

I’d rather not post my face anymore tbh

Can you comment on your changes then?

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Can you comment on your changes then?

Wider jaw, mandibular notch got better, i always had a well developed browridge so didn’t notice much difference besides it getting a little thicker than defined.

 

[ivan.kuk]

Wider jaw, mandibular notch got better, i always had a well developed browridge so didn’t notice much difference besides it getting a little thicker than defined.

At what age did you start and how was your stack? Thanks for answering these

 

[Foreverbrad]

Where do your slays come from?

Wdym? A lot of Erasmus students and MILFs, very few native British girls.

 

[buccalfatremoval]

At what age did you start and how was your stack? Thanks for answering these

I first used tren at 14 but it was for a very short while, so I feel its effects were negligible as I didn’t even notice any facial changes.

Then I started again around late March iirc. I was in 560 test and 210 tren for about 2 months, then upped the tren to 500 for a month, then I stayed on 560 test and a microdose of tren for another month, now I’m on 105 test 100 tren and 50 winstrol daily.
I did use npp for about 2 weeks but it was a low dose for joint health

 

[ivan.kuk]

Wdym? A lot of Erasmus students and MILFs, very few native British girls.

Like where do you get them? Cold approach, OLD, clubs?

 

[Foreverbrad]

Like where do you get them? Cold approach, OLD, clubs?

100% were from tinder

 

[Eren]

Before I started the ortho prep I at least wasn’t completely incel.
Now my overbite is retarded and I have braces, no way any girl would DTF.
I could have just blasted tren and spent these last 2-3 years slaying but I was too greedy and wanted more.

i will have my trimax in 50 days, i have a great natty physique with good proportions, i could have ascended with roids maybe but i'm too lazy to pin

 

[ivan.kuk]

i will have my trimax in 50 days, i have a great natty physique with good proportions, i could have ascended with roids maybe but i'm too lazy to pin

Will you make a pics post of before and after?