Roids are cope

[pandamonium]

Roids are cope unless u have extremely shitty muscle mass genetics.

The average women prefers a athletic build over a roided out build

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Essentially something like below which is 100% achievable completely natty unless u have dog shit genetics

U dont need roids to attract women just go to the gym. Get abs, work on shoulders and build some biceps and u have more than enough. Anything that requires roids is male gaze and ages u

 

[Orc]

I lift to scare women away, not to attract them.

 

[gangmemberhow2]

you can achieve that body with 1yr of test/adrol/hgh/tren rather than 3years natty + strict diet to maintain it or even get there

 

[Popoklapser]

you can roid + workout if you do it the right way not like thess bodybuilders

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

most people will never achieve that body in a lifetime of lifting. that is literally what people roid to look like. why do nattycucks think everyone roiding is trying to be mr olympia

 

[3arsa]

That is not easy to achieve natty by any means. You need like top %1 genetics , diet, sleep, etc to get to that physic. Your delusional as fuck

 

[3arsa]

most people will never achieve that body in a lifetime of lifting. that is literally what people roid to look like. why do nattycucks think everyone roiding is trying to be mr olympia

Fr

 

[pandamonium]

you can achieve that body with 1yr of test/adrol/hgh/tren rather than 3years natty + strict diet to maintain it or even get there

Low iq u can achieve that with a year of working out consistently if u dont have shit genes.

Jfl at taking roids just for u to get mogged by thig nigga

 

[meathead]

Low iq u can achieve that with a year of working out consistently if u dont have shit genes.

Jfl at taking roids just for u to get mogged by thig nigga

show ur physique then

 

[pandamonium]

That is not easy to achieve natty by any means. You need like top %1 genetics , diet, sleep, etc to get to that physic. Your delusional as fuck

I have that physique and i am fully natty and never stepped innthe gym once. Quit the copes

 

[pandamonium]

most people will never achieve that body in a lifetime of lifting. that is literally what people roid to look like. why do nattycucks think everyone roiding is trying to be mr olympia

Only white brah

 

[3arsa]

I have that physique and i am fully natty and never stepped innthe gym once. Quit the copes

Post a pic then buddy. Your def coping bud and your not anywhere close to that fullness or weight. Never stepped in a gym too jfl

 

[pandamonium]

Yall niggas must have the worlds most shit muscle genetics or not be training properly

 

[Deleted member 114579]

Yall niggas must have the worlds most shit muscle genetics or not be training properly

just post pic tbh

 

[Deleted member 44526]

I gymmaxxed natty for 5 years

hopped on 6 months ago and wondering why didnt I roid from the beginning

 

[Deleted member 15225]

most people will never achieve that body in a lifetime of lifting. that is literally what people roid to look like. why do nattycucks think everyone roiding is trying to be mr olympia

Cmon this physique is attainable within like 1-2 years of lifting for most people

Only difference is chest might not be that full

 

[Deleted member 80648]

I lift to scare women away, not to attract them.

if the goal was to attract them, you agree it's better to simply be very low bf?

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Cmon this physique is attainable within like 1-2 years of lifting for most people

absolutely delusional

the average person is a fucking obese, insulin resistant sedentary sloth, they are getting nowhere near this in 1-2 years. MAYBE in minimum 3 years of having an absolutely perfect diet and lifestyle, but now were just speculating unrealistic scenarios. most people will never achieve this. and for the average person to get to this point it would realistically take 5+ years

 

[Orc]

if the goal was to attract them, you agree it's better to simply be very low bf?

size gives you presence in real life so it's not that simple.

most of the time you're wearing clothes so when you're large + tall you stand out, a lean physique at low bodyfat looks like everyone else in clothes.

 

[Deleted member 15225]

absolutely delusional

the average person is a fucking obese, insulin resistant sedentary sloth, they are getting nowhere near this in 1-2 years. MAYBE in minimum 3 years of having an absolutely perfect diet and lifestyle, but now were just speculating unrealistic scenarios. most people will never achieve this. and for the average person to get to this point it would realistically take 5+ years

For one they have a pump in that photo, so factor that in. And most guys are not insulin resistant slobs. Most guys on here are 14-20 year old normal skinny kids with healthy hormones. Just bulk for 2 years with a couple small cuts, train to failure, then cut down and you will look similar to this. It can be achieved in 2.5 years with no detriment to health or effort of roiding. And that physique is basically the peak of what appeals to women. In fact, he could even afford to have a little less muscle.

 

[Deleted member 15225]

size gives you presence in real life so it's not that simple.

most of the time you're wearing clothes so when you're large + tall you stand out, a lean physique at low bodyfat looks like everyone else in clothes.

The size that gives you worthwhile presence in the eyes of women is basically all skeletal though...

 

[pandamonium]

size gives you presence in real life so it's not that simple.

most of the time you're wearing clothes so when you're large + tall you stand out, a lean physique at low bodyfat looks like everyone else in clothes.

Just wear clothes that fit well

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

And most guys are not insulin resistant slobs

in the west and especially the usa yes they are. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db508.htm 40% of usa adults are obese

Most guys on here are 14-20 year old normal skinny kids with healthy hormones

we were never talking about on this website, we were talking about in the entire population

Cmon this physique is attainable within like 1-2 years of lifting for most people

like you said, for most people

 

[Orc]

The size that gives you worthwhile presence in the eyes of women is basically all skeletal though...

no.

Just wear clothes that fit well

won't make you look bigger.

 

[Deleted member 80648]

size gives you presence in real life so it's not that simple.

most of the time you're wearing clothes so when you're large + tall you stand out, a lean physique at low bodyfat looks like everyone else in clothes.

what always kept me from the idea of building muscle is that i'll become fat in the process, suffer a lot counting calories and age myself for such a small boost. how do you see it? do you bodybuild as a hobby and not as a looksmax?

 

[Orc]

what always kept me from the idea of building muscle is that i'll become fat in the process, suffer a lot counting calories and age myself for such a small boost. how do you see it? do you bodybuild as a hobby and not as a looksmax?

you don't need to bulk until you're like two years into lifting.

muscle opens niches you otherwise wouldn't have access to, the boost isn't exactly small unless you're not into the kind of girls that are really into it.

 

[Scottrg]

you don't need to bulk until you're like two years into lifting.

muscle opens niches you otherwise wouldn't have access to, the boost isn't exactly small unless you're not into the kind of girls that are really into it.

What happens actually when you got skinny lean (lets say the person was bulky early) but now you wont count calories but still do alot of cardio and lift, will you gain fat or what will happen

 

[Orc]

What happens actually when you got skinny lean (lets say the person was bulky early) but now you wont count calories but still do alot of cardio and lift, will you gain fat or what will happen

idk I've never counted calories.

 

[Scottrg]

idk I've never counted calories.

good answer have a great night

 

[LooksTester]

Roids are cope unless u have extremely shitty muscle mass genetics.

The average women prefers a athletic build over a roided out build

The Ideal Male Body Type According to Women (Survey Results)

We surveyed 423 women, having them pick the male body types they found most attractive. Muscularity, leanness, proportions, and more.

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What 15% Body Fat Actually Looks Like and Why Women Find It Most Attractive | BOXROX

Discover the most attractive male body type according to women. Explore how societal standards, biology, and personal preferences shape what is deemed appealing in male physiques.

www.boxrox.com

Essentially something like below which is 100% achievable completely natty unless u have dog shit genetics
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U dont need roids to attract women just go to the gym. Get abs, work on shoulders and build some biceps and u have more than enough. Anything that requires roids is male gaze and ages u

Yeah but it will take the average person like 4 5 years assuming they don't already have a athletic back ground and are not 5,6. A fat 6,0 can hop on roids and in one year of disciplined training can get a good physique

 

[TwoFace]

Roids are cope unless u have extremely shitty muscle mass genetics.

The average women prefers a athletic build over a roided out build

The Ideal Male Body Type According to Women (Survey Results)

We surveyed 423 women, having them pick the male body types they found most attractive. Muscularity, leanness, proportions, and more.

bonytobeastly.com

What 15% Body Fat Actually Looks Like and Why Women Find It Most Attractive | BOXROX

Discover the most attractive male body type according to women. Explore how societal standards, biology, and personal preferences shape what is deemed appealing in male physiques.

www.boxrox.com

Essentially something like below which is 100% achievable completely natty unless u have dog shit genetics
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U dont need roids to attract women just go to the gym. Get abs, work on shoulders and build some biceps and u have more than enough. Anything that requires roids is male gaze and ages u

Most roidheads use because they are short and need the better physique to mog taller people I roid because it feels great and allows me to enjoy the gym and build the body I desire not what some random ho wants

 

[muragoat]

Cmon this physique is attainable within like 1-2 years of lifting for most people

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i gymmaxxed for 3 years with perfect habits and im nowhere near this; most people will not achieve that even in 10+ years of natty lifting