Ru58841 is killing my hair

[buccalfatremoval]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

 

[Klassek]

poor bebeh

 

[DrRodger]

Wtf is that

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Wtf is that

Topical anti androgen

 

[selqa]

didn't understand much, but shit sounds annoying.

 

[tansel]

what does ru do for you that dut or oral minox does not lol

 

[tansel]

don't understand much, but shit sounds annoying.

what lol how do yk not know about ru

 

[buccalfatremoval]

what does ru do for you that dut or oral minox does not lol

I’m using tren
It bypasses 5ar process so dut wouldn’t do anything

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Are you on roids? I used topical fin for a year with fin dissolved into alcohol zero effects on my hair quality. RU has worse binding affinity to AR than DHT even, it is a cope drug imo. Compared to even more potent androgen receptor agonists it is probably close to useless.

 

[selqa]

what lol how do yk not know about ru

Lol, I misunderstood it. I thought OP was talking about two separate things, like RU and ethanol being used separately.


I do know about RU58841, but I’m not too knowledgeable about it.

 

[tansel]

I’m using tren
It bypasses 5ar process so dut wouldn’t do anything

oh my god man

again with the steroids

just stop already the damage is done

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I’m using tren
It bypasses 5ar process so dut wouldn’t do anything

RU probably way too weak to compete with tren. It already struggles to compete with DHT as is, plus it is topical vs systemic delivery.

 

[yvngchris]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

rip

 

[buccalfatremoval]

RU probably way too weak to compete with tren. It already struggles to compete with DHT as is, plus it is topical vs systemic delivery.

Yeah I’m aware but not much else I can do

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Are you on roids?

Yes

I used topical fin for a year with fin dissolved into alcohol zero effects on my hair quality. RU has worse binding affinity to AR than DHT even, it is a cope drug imo. Compared to even more potent androgen receptor agonists it is probably close to useless.

Interesting
I’ll look into it

 

[tansel]

Lol, I misunderstood it. I thought OP was talking about two separate things, like RU and ethanol being used separately.


I do know about RU58841, but I’m not too knowledgeable about it.

haha ok grey

thanks for the clearup

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Yeah I’m aware but not much else I can do

Why not just stop tren and stick to T + dutasteride? At least that may let you keep your hair.

 

[tansel]

Why not just stop tren and stick to T + dutasteride? At least that may let you keep your hair.

why not just stop doing steroids

do you know who does steroids

losers

losers who lost the genetic lottery & they cope with hormone injections

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Why not just stop tren and stick to T + dutasteride? At least that may let you keep your hair.

I have shitty genetics
Only tren helps me put on lean mass
It’s quite saddening

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Yes

Interesting
I’ll look into it

RU58841 binding affinity to AR: 2nm , DHT 0.4 nm.. DHT is like up to 5x as strongly binding you can say, so RU already sucks compared to DHT. Tren is like 5-10x stronger than DHT. So RU probably sucks ASS, it may already be a cope drug va natural DHT production. I think r/tressless is full of guys that balded on soy levels of T using RU. I think it is probably a cope drug, maybe helps a tiny bit for some but not all. Nobody even knows what concentrations you actually need for RU too really lol.

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Why not just stop tren and stick to T + dutasteride? At least that may let you keep your hair.

I did 560 test for about 3 months with proper training and diet and only put on about 3-4kg of muscle lol
When I used tren I got much better results
I think it’s just my androgen receptors
My father had some condition that affected his AR sensitivity
I might try proviron, supposedly helps

 

[Krivi.]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

Just use dut/fin bro
It's cheaper and more potent

 

[buccalfatremoval]

RU58841 binding affinity to AR: 2nm , DHT 0.4 nm.. DHT is like up to 5x as strongly binding you can say, so RU already sucks compared to DHT. Tren is like 5-10x stronger than DHT. So RU probably sucks ASS, it may already be a cope drug va natural DHT production. I think r/tressless is full of guys that balded on soy levels of T using RU. I think it is probably a cope drug, maybe helps a tiny bit for some but not all. Nobody even knows what concentrations you actually need for RU too really lol.

Yeah that’s indeed true

 

[Jgns]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

DUDE I SWEAR ITS GOTTEN SO FUCKING BAD, MY 3D FUCKING MONTH AND IM SO MUCH BALDER THAN EVER WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUCK AND ITS THE PG FREE SOLUTION WTF TTFFFF

 

[Krivi.]

why not just stop doing steroids

do you know who does steroids

losers

losers who lost the genetic lottery & they cope with hormone injections

Cope

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Just use dut/fin bro
It's cheaper and more potent

Using tren

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I did 560 test for about 3 months with proper training and diet and only put on about 3-4kg of muscle lol
When I used tren I got much better results
I think it’s just my androgen receptors
My father had some condition that affected his AR sensitivity
I might try proviron, supposedly helps

DHT sucks for muscle building because it is degraded in muscle tissue by enzymes, useless compared to T. I guess you already had a lot of natty muscle mass if T only cycle only put on 3-4 kg?

 

[Krivi.]

Using tren

Then it will largely depend on sensitive your hair follicle is to It .

 

[tansel]

Cope

cope this trimax

 

[maxilexo]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

just buzz cut and start agian, also get into hairmaxxing

 

[Krivi.]

cope this trimax

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Are u getting these surgeries? Mirin bhai

 

[Jgns]

DHT sucks for muscle building because it is degraded in muscle tissue by enzymes, useless compared to T. I guess you already had a lot of natty muscle mass if T only cycle only put on 3-4 kg?

it seems like ur knowledgable on shit. been on dut and oral min, a year and 2 years respectively. my hair was really really good, but it was still thinner in the temporal corners and sides, at a nw1.5. then i hopped on ru (month on month of, then that cycle again, then stopped for 3 months then hopped on it and now ive been on it for 3 straight motnhs) and holy shit dude my literal hair has died. everythigns thinner and ive lost an inch of hair weirdly, and everyone ive appled it has gotten way thinner. i cant for the life of me understand why

 

[Yuqwi]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

Damn brah it’s over

 

[tansel]

Are u getting these surgeries? Mirin bhai

i have already gotten them haha

applogies for the tone

i thought you were being mean

thank you for the mire

 

[buccalfatremoval]

DHT sucks for muscle building because it is degraded in muscle tissue by enzymes, useless compared to T. I guess you already had a lot of natty muscle mass if T only cycle only put on 3-4 kg?

I was like shy of 80kg (?) iirc, but not really muscular I’m 6’3.
Idc about dht being in my system i know it has no muscle effects
I was using dut for some time but got too broke to keep using it so currently not on
But I did use steroids before, like years ago and pct, then I came back a few months ago
I’m unsure if this has some type of correlation or not

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

it seems like ur knowledgable on shit. been on dut and oral min, a year and 2 years respectively. my hair was really really good, but it was still thinner in the temporal corners and sides, at a nw1.5. then i hopped on ru (month on month of, then that cycle again, then stopped for 3 months then hopped on it and now ive been on it for 3 straight motnhs) and holy shit dude my literal hair has died. everythigns thinner and ive lost an inch of hair weirdly, and everyone ive appled it has gotten way thinner. i cant for the life of me understand why

Hair miniaturization/hair follicle damage from androgenic alopecia can become permanent once hair follicles miniaturize past a certain point, different for everybody. Weren't you on roids too for periods before? Only hope is not touching roids or hope it is shedding and you can recover over time on dut + minoxidil. Or did you mean cycles of RU? Hair follicles can be dormant for up to 3-6 months after shedding I believe too.

 

[Jgns]

Hair miniaturization/hair follicle damage from androgenic alopecia can become permanent once hair follicles miniaturize past a certain point, different for everybody. Weren't you on roids too for periods before? Only hope is not touching roids or hope it is shedding and you can recover over time on dut + minoxidil. Or did you mean cycles of RU? Hair follicles can be dormant for up to 3-6 months after shedding I believe too.

sorry i did mean cycles of ru, the people I bought from (minoxidilmax) had supply issues so it took a bit at that time. and nah Id never get on a cycle of roid lol. I dont know what to do tbh, upped my dut dose to 2.5 aswell, unfortunately ive been out of oral min for almost 3 weeks now due to vacationing in egypt but hopefully i can get some this week lol. But yeah its so weird, everywhere Ive applied ru these past couple months has thinned out like crazy, and the hairs are so brittle too. Theyre medium sized hairs aswell which is so odd.

 

[not.lovable_Lawa]

It’s so dry and thinned out because of the ethanol content
Fuck

Yo bro how do I fix my ptr

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I was like shy of 80kg (?) iirc, but not really muscular I’m 6’3.
Idc about dht being in my system i know it has no muscle effects
I was using dut for some time but got too broke to keep using it so currently not on
But I did use steroids before, like years ago and pct, then I came back a few months ago
I’m unsure if this has some type of correlation or not

Damn man, tren + natural DHT too would be brutal shit on majority of guys hair I think. Dut can be effective at 2-3x a week dosing already though, but of course if on roids you may need every help you can get, some guys here takes 2.5 mg every day though lol. I personally take 0.5 mg DUT 2-3x a week but of course I only got natural androgen levels + didn't have aggressive hair loss before just wanted to freeze my hairline + density 100% certainty and not leave it up to chances I may be slowly affected by androgenic alopecia or it sabotages my hairmaxxing efforts.

Do you really need that extra tren muscle mass though? You are a big guy + 6 foot 3 you can slay foids as fuck with your height alone and minimal muscle mass tbh lol.

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Damn man, tren + natural DHT too would be brutal shit on majority of guys hair I think. Dut can be effective at 2-3x a week dosing already though, but of course if on roids you may need every help you can get, some guys here takes 2.5 mg every day though lol. I personally take 0.5 mg DUT 2-3x a week but of course I only got natural androgen levels + didn't have aggressive hair loss before just wanted to freeze my hairline + density 100% certainty and not leave it up to chances I may be slowly affected by androgenic alopecia or it sabotages my hairmaxxing efforts.

I was balding since I was 13 lol, just shitty genetics
My father is Norwood 5 and my uncles not any better.

Do you really need that extra tren muscle mass though? You are a big guy + 6 foot 3 you can slay foids as fuck with your height alone and minimal muscle mass tbh lol.

I’m currently cutting just microdosing it
I wanna get in one more good blast then I’ll just cruise with orals probably
I still feel small

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I was balding since I was 13 lol, just shitty genetics
My father is Norwood 5 and my uncles not any better.

I’m currently cutting just microdosing it
I wanna get in one more good blast then I’ll just cruise with orals probably
I still feel small

Oh damn, that sucks. Most guys would respect you just from height though, but maybe hair is already too far gone and you maybe should just go all-in and ogremaxx? You can wear a hair system too. But yeah feel for you man must be really hard to start balding at that age.

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Oh damn, that sucks. Most guys would respect you just from height though, but maybe hair is already too far gone and you maybe should just go all-in and ogremaxx? You can wear a hair system too. But yeah feel for you man must be really hard to start balding at that age.

I’m like Norwood 2 but my hair density is bad
Might be time to turkeymaxx

 

[larpsahurcel]

Dermastamping bro and maybe u could switch to pyrilutamide, it works similar to RU but I've heard it's better

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I’m like Norwood 2 but my hair density is bad
Might be time to turkeymaxx

Damb bro, NW2 isn't even bad if you got full hair thickness and quality, nobody thinks you are balding if you got good hair quality otherwise. It is when you go past it people start thinking "may be balding", depends on age too of course. I got a bit of norwood early and some people online tried making fun of it in my 20s lmfao now most are balding way more than I ever did + hairline stayed frozen anyway for like 6-7 years before I even started fin/dut for assurance of it not slowly progressing. Actually hairline exact same since I was 21.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Damb bro, NW2 isn't even bad if you got full hair thickness and quality, nobody thinks you are balding if you got good hair quality otherwise. It is when you go past it people start thinking "may be balding", depends on age too of course. I got a bit of norwood early and some people online tried making fun of it in my 20s lmfao now most are balding way more than I ever did + hairline stayed frozen anyway for like 6-7 years before I even started fin/dut for assurance of it not slowly progressing. Actually hairline exact same since I was 21.

My maternal grandfather was lifetime NW2-2.5 with thick hair until he died at 70, chain smoker and alcoholic for his entire adult life too lol.

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Damb bro, NW2 isn't even bad if you got full hair thickness and quality, nobody thinks you are balding if you got good hair quality otherwise. It is when you go past it people start thinking "may be balding", depends on age too of course. I got a bit of norwood early and some people online tried making fun of it in my 20s lmfao now most are balding way more than I ever did + hairline stayed frozen anyway for like 6-7 years before I even started fin/dut for assurance of it not slowly progressing. Actually hairline exact same since I was 21.

Yeah I’m more concerned about the hair density
My Norwood itself hasn’t changed since I’m 15, but I lose hair density which is what’s brutal, + I have curly hair so that already makes it look thinner due to hair clumping for curls.
I’m currently 18

 

[buccalfatremoval]

My maternal grandfather was lifetime NW2-2.5 with thick hair until he died at 70, chain smoker and alcoholic for his entire adult life too lol.

Yeah I’m probably gonna get a hair transplant next year and just lay off any roids that cause balding I guess, while using dut and minox. Hopefully those save me cuz otherwise it’s over

 

[Jgns]

I was balding since I was 13 lol, just shitty genetics
My father is Norwood 5 and my uncles not any better.

I’m currently cutting just microdosing it
I wanna get in one more good blast then I’ll just cruise with orals probably
I still feel small

fuck dude thats brutal, all the shit you're on and yet its still seemingly getting worse. Its such a mindfucking feeling when you're giving it all trying to stem the flood, yet even with all that effort ur genetics still fuckw u over. This fucking lack of control is so FUUCUCUCCUKED, god it makes a guy feel so helpless.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Yeah I’m more concerned about the hair density
My Norwood itself hasn’t changed since I’m 15, but I lose hair density which is what’s brutal, + I have curly hair so that already makes it look thinner due to hair clumping for curls.
I’m currently 18

Ye what matters the most is quality/thickness of hairs and density more than some norwood. Talked to multiple women and they say the actual quality is waaaaay more important than a perfect hairline. If you are 18 hair is probably still saveable off roids. Also HT won't fix shit like diffuse thinning on top and HT + still using roids may not save your hair if you keep thinning everywhere, you only have a limited amount of hair follicles too. Some transplanted scalp areas are also naturally higher in DHT production too so need to be aware of that also.

 

[Jgns]

Yeah I’m more concerned about the hair density
My Norwood itself hasn’t changed since I’m 15, but I lose hair density which is what’s brutal, + I have curly hair so that already makes it look thinner due to hair clumping for curls.
I’m currently 18

damn ur 18 thats insane. im currently 20. I know of a guy who went literally bald at 14 and hopped on the most insane fucking stack to reverse it all, when I wake up ill try connecting u with him. Dudes stack is fucking insane and it works. Im 20 andim personally planning to ut it from a n1.5 to a nw1 wih a forehead reduction (upside down c shaped one) then gettinga ht after 6 months to densify everything+the sides, instead of wasting grafts onjust lowering. id recommend u do the same