Russians are disgusting degenerates

[Deleted member 15569]

Yes, I live in Kyiv.

you inside kyiv rn for real? did you try to escape or are you gonna fight

 

[AlexAP]

Okay, thank you for confirming you are the lying rat I suspect you to be. 70% approval for Putin is not support for the war. According to your own article, 58% supported the invasion at the time of polling. In addition, the sample size was smaller than usual, and the Levada Center is government run

It's actually not 71%, but about 81%.

Конфликт с Украиной

Большинство респондентов поддерживают действия российских вооруженных сил в Украине. Среди мотивов поддержки: “защита русскоязычного населения” и “безопасность границ”. Те, кто против, мотивируют свое отношение тем, что насилие и гибель людей недопустимы.

www.levada.ru

 

[444]

It's actually not 71%, but about 81%.

Конфликт с Украиной

Большинство респондентов поддерживают действия российских вооруженных сил в Украине. Среди мотивов поддержки: “защита русскоязычного населения” и “безопасность границ”. Те, кто против, мотивируют свое отношение тем, что насилие и гибель людей недопустимы.

www.levada.ru

"The study is conducted at the respondent's home by the method of personal interview"

Now, Russia is no North Korea, or even China, but how can you expect honest answers like this?

 

[AlexAP]

"The study is conducted at the respondent's home by the method of personal interview"

Now, Russia is no North Korea, or even China, but how can you expect honest answers like this?

Because that's what the majority of Russians think, even on social media you can see them supporting Putin, it has always been the case.

 

[TsarTsar444]

What does massacre in Poland have to do with current Ukrainians. Yes it happened, yes it was horrible. Nothing we can do about it now, and we don't justify it in any way. You could barely find innocent nation back in those times which didn't commit atrocities towards other nation. People were savage towards each other.


Regarding Bandera, he is not a national hero on a large scale here, many Ukrainians don't even know who he is exactly and what exactly he did, majority simply don't care about him. The ones who truly love him are wannabe right wing ultra nationalistic immature teens who are mainly loudmouth on the internet, and even those support him because he fought Soviet regime and russians, not because he killed poles. They didn't really learn history in depth tho.

Again Bandera is considered an important cultural official by your own government dude, and has streets named after him. So the whole some Ukrainians support him or not isn't an excuse. Ukrainians should have protested about those streets long ago but they went okay with it.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Because that's what the majority of Russians think, even on social media you can see them supporting Putin, it has always been the case.

Thoughts on my 4d chess EU ascending move? You didn't reply

 

[chaddyboi66]

 

[AlexAP]

Thoughts on my 4d chess EU ascending move? You didn't reply

I think the EU will wait for the next new members, when the Ukraine war is over maybe some countries will negotiate and join 5-10 years later. But not Bosnia, they're not stable enough, maybe Macedonia and Albania if they don't want to unify with Kosovo. I'm personally against the EU and supported the Brexit.

 

[TsarTsar444]

I think the EU will wait for the next new members, when the Ukraine war is over maybe some countries will negotiate and join 5-10 years later. But not Bosnia, they're not stable enough, maybe Macedonia and Albania if they don't want to unify with Kosovo. I'm personally against the EU and supported the Brexit.

Nope, now the Serbs in Bosnia are completely fucked, Russia will not be able to support them anymore, Bosnia got a new US ambassador that made a harsh statement that he will end every remaining Russian interests in the region. Now the Bosnian side can enact reforms that will move the country more and more into a unitary state, this will ofcourse provoke the Serbs there but what are they going to do about it? Succeed? They will be unrecognized and completely isolated, not even Russia will be able to support them and they will quickly roll over the Bosnian military supported by all of NATO after

 

[HighIQcel]

you inside kyiv rn for real? did you try to escape or are you gonna fight

There was never major fighting inside Kyiv, except for the 2nd or 3rd day (don't remember exactly), where some rus tanks and troops managed to enter Kyiv in the late evening (naively thought that government would collapse and army run away), but were obliterated by the end of the day. After that, all battles were happening around Kyiv, in its regions.

No, I didn't try to escape, and not gonna do, since I am quite settled here, with a decent job, salary, real estate.

I am not gonna fight either, since I am physically weak for actual combat encounters, + zero experience and understanding of how to handle a gun. So I would be more of a liability.

I help with blood and monetary donations.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Fuck around and find out

 

[Deleted member 15569]

There was never major fighting inside Kyiv, except for the 2nd or 3rd day (don't remember exactly), where some rus tanks and troops managed to enter Kyiv in the late evening (naively thought that government would collapse and army run away), but were obliterated by the end of the day. After that, all battles were happening around Kyiv, in its regions.

No, I didn't try to escape, and not gonna do, since I am quite settled here, with a decent job, salary, real estate.

I am not gonna fight either, since I am physically weak for actual combat encounters, + zero experience and understanding of how to handle a gun. So I would be more of a liability.

I help with blood and monetary donations.

wish u luck then

 

[Lygodactylus]

"Russians are degenerates"
Oh really? And the nation that popularized feminism and onlyfans isn't? Fucking western exceptionalist idiot

 

[AlexAP]

"Russians are degenerates"
Oh really? And the nation that popularized feminism and onlyfans isn't? Fucking western exceptionalist idiot

Degenerate = Commit mass murder in the war.

 

[Lygodactylus]

Degenerate = Commit mass murder in the war.

I know, just fucking with you

 

[HighIQcel]

Again Bandera is considered an important cultural official by your own government dude, and has streets named after him. So the whole some Ukrainians support him or not isn't an excuse. Ukrainians should have protested about those streets long ago but they went okay with it.

1. You really think people would go out to protest about street naming?

2. So the fact that some streets were named after Bandera make all Ukrainians Nazis?

 

[TsarTsar444]

1. You really think people would go out to protest about street naming?

2. So the fact that some streets were named after Bandera make all Ukrainians Nazis?

No but majority of Ukrainians west of the Dniepar are Nazi sympathetic. Also Ukraine wouldn't have even existed if it wasnt for the Bolsheviks, your nation is made up dude, the only reason for it was for Russians to not have such an overwhelming majority in the Soviet Union so Lenin split up Belarussians and Ukrainians as separate ethnicities.

Im not completely saying that some form of Ukrainian real identity doesn't exist, but thats the Ruthenians in the western parts. Kiev and everything east was always Russian

 

[AlexAP]

No but majority of Ukrainians west of the Dniepar are Nazi sympathetic.

No, they aren't. They voted for Zelinskyy, who is a Jew.

Also Ukraine wouldn't have even existed if it wasnt for the Bolsheviks, your nation is made up dude, the only reason for it was for Russians to not have such an overwhelming majority in the Soviet Union so Lenin split up Belarussians and Ukrainians as separate ethnicities.

Im not completely saying that some form of Ukrainian real identity doesn't exist, but thats the Ruthenians in the western parts. Kiev and everything east was always Russian

Gigacope.

 

[HighIQcel]

No but majority of Ukrainians west of the Dniepar are Nazi sympathetic.

How did you come up with such statement? Where did you get it?

 

[HighIQcel]

It's conformed fake in a telegraph channao it shows how
One of the bodies was moving

Later it was confirmed that it was a speck of dirt on the windshield. In video with better resolution you can clearly see it.

 

[TsarTsar444]

How did you come up with such statement? Where did you get it?

Polls done in western Ukraine on Bandera, plural majority supports him, and the second biggest majority is neutral. There is info on this on wikipedia

 

[HighIQcel]

Polls done in western Ukraine on Bandera, a plural majority supports him, and the second biggest majority is neutral. There is info on this on Wikipedia

As I said before, those Ukrainians who support him, support his fighting against the Soviet regime and Stalin, not slaughtering poles (not denying that some sick individuals do support that, just like anywhere else)

It would have been better to conduct a poll asking specific questions regarding Bandera's actions, so that we would be able to build a more complete picture of his sympathizers, for example: "do you think mass genocide of poles, which was led by Bandera, was justified in some way?". Are you sure that the results would be even remotely similar?

 

[MoggerGaston]

Cope, Saddam didn't have WMD, the war wasn't justified.

Did you support the bombing of Libya in 2011?

 

[AlexAP]

Did you support the bombing of Libya in 2011?

It was different than Iraq 2003, still the result was bad, so no.

 

[MoggerGaston]

It was different than Iraq 2003, still the result was bad, so no.

We don't know the results of the special military operation in Ukraine yet. So maybe you will support it in the future.

 

[AlexAP]

We don't know the results of the special military operation in Ukraine yet. So maybe you will support it in the future.

Lol no, Russia wants to conquer Ukraine who had a democratically elected government and wasn't committing crimes, Libya had a civil war going on and the West intervened. It was bad because the Libyan rebels created instability after the intervention ended.

 

[Landorus]

Not just Putin: Most Russians support the war in Ukraine

Many international commentators have pinned the blame for the Russian invasion of Ukraine solely on Vladimir Putin but the chilling truth is that an overwhelming majority of ordinary Russians also support the war.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

 

[AlexAP]

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So what? The actual source is the Levada center, the Atlantic Council just linked to them.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Lol no, Russia wants to conquer Ukraine

Proof?

who had a democratically elected government

Democracy has no objective value. There's bad democracies and good dictatorships.

and wasn't committing crimes,

Libya had a civil war going on and the West intervened.

There was a civil-war going on in Ukraine when Russia intervened just like in Libya.

It was bad because the Libyan rebels created instability after the intervention ended.

NATO knew Libyan rebels had strong Islamist extremist elements before they intervened, but did it anyways.
They also had no plan at all for what to do with Libya once they destroyed the official Libyan government and its military, but did it anyways.

These are now well-known facts concluded after the intervention. Your idea of 'oh no, the libyan people did this to themselves, we couldn't have known' is a good example of how western media propaganda has shaped your worldview.

 

[TsarTsar444]

It was different than Iraq 2003, still the result was bad, so no.

USA should have faced at least as harsh sanctions as Russia is facing now, by UN reports there are currently 1.2k dead civilians in Ukraine, and 110k dead civilians directly from the US air bombings, and a dozen of actual war crimes commited by US soldiers

Haditha massacre - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Iraqis expressed disbelief and voiced outrage after the six-year U.S. military prosecution ended with none of the Marines sentenced to incarceration.

 

[AlexAP]

Proof?

Putin said it. Demilitarization and denazification meant the destruction of the Ukrainian state and replacement with a pro-Russian puppet regime.

Democracy has no objective value. There's bad democracies and good dictatorships.

Cope.

There was a civil-war going on in Ukraine when Russia intervened just like in Libya.

There was a conflict in the Donbass, not in the whole Ukraine.

NATO knew Libyan rebels had strong Islamist extremist elements before they intervened, but did it anyways.
They also had no plan at all for what to do with Libya once they destroyed the official Libyan government and its military, but did it anyways.

It's not about that. If the West had intervend in Rwanda 1994, the militias they would have supported wouldn't have been good either, but the Tutsis who got genocided could have been saved.
In Libya the war against Gaddafi was meant to end the civil war, but the country ended up being in conflict until now, so it was a bad decision.

 

[AlexAP]

USA should have faced at least as harsh sanctions as Russia is facing now, by UN reports there are currently 1.2k dead civilians in Ukraine, and 110k dead civilians directly from the US air bombings, and a dozen of actual war crimes commited by US soldiers

Haditha massacre - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Iraqis expressed disbelief and voiced outrage after the six-year U.S. military prosecution ended with none of the Marines sentenced to incarceration.

The politicians who started the war should have been prosecuted and the soldiers who committed the Haditha massacre should have gone to jail forever.

I don't support all sanctions against Russia, for example it's stupid that they banned the football team from the World Cup qualifiers. I think it's a good thing that Europe tries to become independent from Russian gas and oil though, because Russia uses it as a political tool. I don't think the U.S. would have done this even if they would have been an important source for gas and oil for Europe at the time, so sanctions wouldn't have been necessary tbh.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Putin said it. Demilitarization and denazification meant the destruction of the Ukrainian state and replacement with a pro-Russian puppet regime.

So the exact same thing that the West did in Libya then: Regime-change.

There was a conflict in the Donbass, not in the whole Ukraine.

Same can be said about Libya. There was a civil war in Benghazi and surrounding areas.

It's not about that. If the West had intervend in Rwanda 1994, the militias they would have supported wouldn't have been good either, but the Tutsis who got genocided could have been saved.
In Libya the war against Gaddafi was meant to end the civil war, but the country ended up being in conflict until now, so it was a bad decision.

Putin is ending the civil war in the Donbass and if the country ends up in peace afterwards, then it is a good decision?

 

[TsarTsar444]

The politicians who started the war should have been prosecuted and the soldiers who committed the Haditha massacre should have gone to jail forever.

I don't support all sanctions against Russia, for example it's stupid that they banned the football team from the World Cup qualifiers. I think it's a good thing that Europe tries to become independent from Russian gas and oil though, because Russia uses it as a political tool. I don't think the U.S. would have done this even if they would have been an important source for gas and oil for Europe at the time, so sanctions wouldn't have been necessary tbh.

The point is that proves the US can do anything they want and nobody would bat an eye, the whataboutism argument here is extremely dumb, that argument is when u justify another country doing something because another one does it, im not justifying russian aggression, but its extremely hypocritical that the US didn't even get a slap on the wrist for Vietnam or Iraq. Its disgusting

 

[Chowdog]

im about to enlist and send these slav niggas back to the stalin era

 

[AlexAP]

The point is that proves the US can do anything they want and nobody would bat an eye, the whataboutism argument here is extremely dumb, that argument is when u justify another country doing something because another one does it, im not justifying russian aggression, but its extremely hypocritical that the US didn't even get a slap on the wrist for Vietnam or Iraq. Its disgusting

Bro, the Russians annihilated Chechnya, attacked Georgia, intervened in Syria, and there were no sanctions either. And all they did in the Soviet era (Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979-89) didn't lead to sanctions either.

The war in the Ukraine is different as it is an unprovoked war against a country with a democratically elected government.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Bro, the Russians annihilated Chechnya, attacked Georgia, intervened in Syria, and there were no sanctions either. And all they did in the Soviet era (Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979-89) didn't lead to sanctions either.

The war in the Ukraine is different as it is an unprovoked war against a country with a democratically elected government.

True they should have faced sanctions for that long ago, but the US should have faced them for the Iraq war as well

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Bet you would've supported 2003 Iraq and 2011 Libya though you hypocritical faggot.

if the CIA and western media tells him russia is behind the dead bodies it has to be russia. they don't lie, they a government agencies after all

 

[AlexAP]

if the CIA and western media tells him russia is behind the dead bodies it has to be russia. they don't lie, they a government agencies after all

They lie all the time. How stupid it is to believe that it's impossible for Russian soldiers to commit crimes though?

 

[Deleted member 7098]

They lie all the time. How stupid it is to believe that it's impossible for Russian soldiers to commit crimes though?

because there is literally no incentive for them to do this, they are winning. Bet you also believed assad used chemical weapons on his own people when he basically already won, just to give the americans and western imperialist an excuse to join the bombing and annex 1/3 of syrian land

the ukrainian nazis prevented civilians from leaving the cities so they could use them as human shields, they've done that the entire war.

 

[AlexAP]

because there is literally no incentive for them to do this, they are winning.

War crimes are committed whether the soldiers are on the winning side or not, this has been the case since ancient times. And the Russians are not winning, they retreated from the Kiev area.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

they retreated from the Kiev area.

To encircle the vast majority of the ukrainian army in the east

 

[AlexAP]

To encircle the vast majority of the ukrainian army in the east

They wanted to win the war in a few days or weeks.

And still, my point was that soldiers can commit crimes whether they are on the winning side or not.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

They wanted to win the war in a few days or weeks.

And still, my point was that soldiers can commit crimes whether they are on the winning side or not.

you're saying they have been shot somewhere else and then dragged to the main street, for camera men to walk through and document it? how gullible are you? use some critical thinking skills and question the lies you've been getting fed. did ARD or ZDF even mention once the food price increase of 30-50% today? no. they just kept pushing US propaganda, asking for more sanctions, they are paid actors, you can't keep trusting main stream media

 

[wannabenormie]

JFL at copers who say this is staged or that Ukrainians did it.
Doing shit like that and later denying it is literally what Russians are known for.

Few examples:
Murder of 22000 POWs in Katyn, denied and blamed on Germans for 50 years:

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mass murders of civilians in Estonia:

Battle of Kautla - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mass rapes in Germany:

What Happened To The Women Of Germany After The End Of WW2?

Estimates are around 2,000,000 women were raped in Germany, 100,000 in Berlin.

cavemancircus.com

 

[AscensionMan98]

They could have slayed even without the massacre, and even if not it is an evil thing to do, stop coping.

Wrong. The playing field is more leveled as the surviving roasties their don't have literally any mating pool, so the new mating pool will be the Russians settling their. They could also rape them as its still war time right now.

 

[AlexAP]

you're saying they have been shot somewhere else and then dragged to the main street, for camera men to walk through and document it? how gullible are you? use some critical thinking skills and question the lies you've been getting fed.

Yeah of course it was actually done by Ukrainians to use it as propaganda against Russians jfl.

 

[Cali Yuga]

The Ukrainians have liberated the area around Kiev that was occupied by Russian soldiers. Now you can see what the Russian soldiers have done in these areas. Rivers of dead bodies everywhere.

Dead civilians, executed by the forces of evil. There are reports of mass rapes, dead women thrown away at the roadside before their bodies could get burned.

The massacres were planned long beforehand:

Still, 71% of Russians support the war against Ukraine.

Not just Putin: Most Russians support the war in Ukraine

Many international commentators have pinned the blame for the Russian invasion of Ukraine solely on Vladimir Putin but the chilling truth is that an overwhelming majority of ordinary Russians also support the war.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

It's not "Putins war", it's Russia's war.

See how much Russians care about Ukrainian civilians:

After they got defeated in the Kiev area, Russia is now trying to "conquer" the Donbass area. Let's hope they get annihilated by the Ukrainians like they did in Kiev.

The good news: One day, not in the far away future, the Russian economy will get wiped out by the sanctions, Russians will be starving, they will lose the war, Putin will be toppled, and a long, bloody civil war will break out.

The world in 2030:
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@WannabeJock @Thompsonz

imagine believing wartime propaganda in 2022 lmao

remember when assad gassed his own people?

remember the whole presentation about saddam murdering babies and shit?

remember WMDs?

remember the holocaust?

i stg some of you niggas are hardcore failed normies and its only by the grace of god youre here and not browsing r/funkopops

 

[AlexAP]

remember the holocaust?

.org moment

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Yeah of course it was actually done by Ukrainians to use it as propaganda against Russians jfl.

by the nazi para-militaries, that cleansed the city of russia supporters and left them out on the street to warn the other citizens while filming it to draw western support.

hard to tell when you're being serious and when you're trolling, you and hebbew literally support every single soy-topic out there