SARMs had worse side effects for me than roids

[Deleted member 23391]

horrible HDL cholesterol
extremely elevated liver enzymes over 5 times the top end of the reference range
dry mouth
inexplicable headaches and worsened cognition
waking up in the middle of the night

If you take them with enclomiphene you don't really get suppressed. That's basically the only benefit. Everything else has been worse for me, in my experience.

 

[Vermilioncore]

That’s why you need to give up on life and watch tv with a bowl of potato chips

 

[Deleted member 23391]

That’s why you need to give up on life and watch tv with a bowl of potato chips

nah

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Have good genetics or death

 

[Saint Casanova]

horrible HDL cholesterol
extremely elevated liver enzymes over 5 times the top end of the reference range
dry mouth
inexplicable headaches and worsened cognition
waking up in the middle of the night

If you take them with enclomiphene you don't really get suppressed. That's basically the only benefit. Everything else has been worse for me, in my experience.

Brutal, I’m thinking rad-140 with enclo or just 300mg of test plus var or primo as a first cycle ? Can you take something to help with liver sides ?

 

[serbiangandy]

Brutal, I’m thinking rad-140 with enclo or just 300mg of test plus var or primo as a first cycle ? Can you take something to help with liver sides ?

Nac and tudca is go to

 

[FastBananaCEO]

What did you use? Rad140?

 

[Deleted member 23391]

What did you use? Rad140?

LGD 5-10mg with enclomiphene 6.25-12.5mg

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Brutal, I’m thinking rad-140 with enclo or just 300mg of test plus var or primo as a first cycle ? Can you take something to help with liver sides ?

TUDCA and some glutathione boosting supplements (NAC ethyl ester, glycine, selenium, alpha lipoic acid) brought down my ALT significantly from where it was on LGD. There are documented cases of LGD raping people's livers in the medical literature:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7304490/

There is a case of RAD having similar effects, his ALT was even higher than the LGD case:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9753945/

 

[Saint Casanova]

TUDCA and some glutathione boosting supplements (NAC ethyl ester, glycine, selenium, alpha lipoic acid) brought down my ALT significantly from where it was on LGD. There are documented cases of LGD raping people's livers in the medical literature:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7304490/

There is a case of RAD having similar effects, his ALT was even higher than the LGD case:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9753945/

Should you take these during the cycle to prevent liver issues or after ?

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Should you take these during the cycle to prevent liver issues or after ?

During. I'd get your liver enzymes tested 2-3 weeks in.

 

[TsarTsar444]

But why do you guys use sarms when they are just the much worse version of T, aren't they supressive as well? So whats the point. Is it because of having acne so T is not on the table? But if so, do Sarms not cause acne?

 

[Deleted member 23391]

But why do you guys use sarms when they are just the much worse version of T, aren't they supressive as well? So whats the point. Is it because of having acne so T is not on the table? But if so, do Sarms not cause acne?

No. You can run most SARMs with enclo as your test "base" and you will be suppressed very minimally if at all, unlike with exogenous steroids (the more suppressive ones like S-23 are probably an exception). But the other side effects can be quite bad and they can absolutely rape your lipid profile and liver enzymes. I got slightly oilier skin from the increase in free T because LGD will lower your SHBG significantly. I won't be doing them again, in fact I don't even think I'll be doing oral steroids, I'll just stick to injectables for the sake of my liver.

Also idk about a "worse version of T", the strength and size gains on LGD were actually incredible, but given what it did to my ALT and HDL it's not worth it.