Self-Improvement is not the way out of depression/low self-esteem/inceldom.

[MoggerGaston]

Bingo. Unless you're literally deformed or very very ugly, it's up to your brain what you do next.

The belief in such determinism with no free will could be the very cause of the deterministic effect though. You give it power by believing in it.

 

[Bashan]

The belief in such determinism with no free will could be the very cause of the deterministic effect though. You give it power by believing in it.

Still true.

 

[Suimaxxer]

Bluepill.org

 

[Deleted member 21628]

stop posting you freaking nature


absolute failure

"mememememememem"


we get it

stop whining


ignored

 

[germanlooks]

Already woke up and sober, but still in drug afterglow. Will truly know tomorrow. But still I will stand by this.

Positive thoughts result in positive action which brings results.

Negative thoughts result in negative or no action.

Idk whats the point of feeling stressed more often than you already are by having negative thoughts in your mind.

The problem is it’s hard and sometimes nearly impossible to have positive thoughts if you are in a bad situation.

How is the 5‘2 currycel supposed to think positively with his stats and all the other brutal shit life throws at him?
That he would benefit more from positive thoughts than from negative thoughts is undeniable. But getting to that point of thinking positively is almost impossible for him

 

[dimorphism]

i'm not jewish

 

[MoggerGaston]

The problem is it’s hard and sometimes nearly impossible to have positive thoughts if you are in a bad situation.

Ofcourse you are right. It isnt easy. You have to start somewhere though, the mind can be trained and conditioned in how to deal with negative events/circumstance and how you think as a result of them.

Just like a mind can be trained to solve math equations, mental wellbeing is also something you can train it in.

 

[Bashan]

You know what's Ironic OP, you could only feel comfortable / come up easily with that thought while high on coke. Even if you do keep that thought fully (you wouldn't) it's because of the experience, you felt the chemistry. Sleep on that.

 

[MoggerGaston]

You know what's Ironic OP, you could only feel comfortable / come up easily with that thought while high on coke. Even if you do keep that thought fully (you wouldn't) it's because of the experience, you felt the chemistry. Sleep on that.

Then in my case it was a cocktail of drugs that pushed me over the edge to accept this train of thought.

For someone else it could be getting a girlfriend and the effect that has on his mental state.
Or getting a new supportive social circle.
Therapy, anti-depressants, winning the lottery, a near-death experience, etc.

That's life. People have different triggers.

 

[Bashan]

Then in my case it was a cocktail of drugs that pushed me over the edge to accept this train of thought.

For someone else it could be getting a girlfriend and the effect that has on his mental state.
Or getting a new supportive social circle.
Therapy, anti-depressants, winning the lottery, a near-death experience, etc.

That's life. People have different triggers.

I know brother I know, I tried too and sometimes I'm foolish enough to try again. But it's over.

 

[New Poster]

Yeah, telling yourself you're shit if you don't wake up at 5am and gymcel for two hours is a recipe for shattered self-esteem. Being the best version of yourself is great, but if it gives you a giant chip on your shoulder it's not really worth it

 

[MoggerGaston]

I know brother I know, I tried too and sometimes I'm foolish enough to try again. But it's over.

Just know that it's never too late. We are likely all gonna be on this planet for another couple of years. New opportunities can come and go.

I've been clinically depressed since 2017 (official diagnosis). Rotted for the past 6 years, destroy my financial health, academic options, lost the little social circle I had, and probably have a lot of damage on my physical health + brain health from the huge stress I've lived in.

I still believe it's not over yet. I have faith in you, even when you don't have it in yourself right now.

 

[MoggerGaston]

@Krakowski

its good u liked this old post of mine. Made me realize this all over again.
Somehow 8 months later I am still in the same loop of negativity though.

Putting these thoughts into practical application.
Training your mind daily, keeping thought/emotions that go against it away, is an extremely rough battle.

But I am I think it's the most important battle of life in the end. So it shouldn't be given up on easily.

 

[Deleted member 19442]

Negativity and defeated mindset holds me back in life

 

[Krakowski]

Nothing wrong with self-improvement and looksmaxxing. But if you are struggling mentally. Struggling to be happy, feel loved. You are lonely? Struggle to feel valued, don't like your life, etc. That has little to do with your actual life circumstances but all with your mind. Your brain, your mindset. Past traumas, mental blockades, things you are obsessed about in your mind. Anger, unresolved conflicts, dissapointments from the past. Feeling like you missed out. It has nothing to do with your actual physical state, just your mental one.

Why? Because you can be happy and feel fullfilled being a total ugly loser NEET. There is 5'2 balding janitors that are happy. Not being able to feel happy in such a situation is not a problem of the situation, but a problem of your mind.

If you don't like who you are right now and how your life is. You should still allow yourself to be happy and feel good regardless of these failed present life circumstances.
Don't punish yourself, don't tell yourself you aren't allowed to feel good,to be valued. Just because you aren't at the level you think you should be yet.

Then, once you are happy with who you are, you will find the energy to thrive. To truly become who you could've been all that time. And most importantly, you will be happy while on the journey. Life is about the journey, not the destination.


The journey of life. Enjoy it even while backing out of a concrete wall you just hit. It's all part of it.

I doubt incels who are unaware of the BP like the 5'2 balding janitors are really that happy.

Also not that easy to fix my brain since my parents gave me a subhuman childhood

@Krakowski

its good u liked this old post of mine. Made me realize this all over again.
Somehow 8 months later I am still in the same loop of negativity though.

Putting these thoughts into practical application.
Training your mind daily, keeping thought/emotions that go against it away, is an extremely rough battle.

But I am I think it's the most important battle of life in the end. So it shouldn't be given up on easily.

Can't believe I rotted away another year

 

[horizontallytall]

I love the way my mind thinks on drugs. It becomes so clear to me now.

Fact: I am extremely sad/depressed about the way I look.

Solution (coping): I need to change the way I look to feel happy.

The real solution when I don't cope: I need to change my negative perception of myself. I shouldn't be depressed or sad because of the way I look. Focus on positive self-though, affirmations, and seek out social support to help you in this too.

Then once you feel happy and not-depressed: You can looksmax, you can change the way you look. There's NOTHING wrong with that. But you don't have to be sad about it. Enjoy the process. Enjoy who you are even before you are 'looksmaxxed'.

I feel depressed sometimes about lost childhood, then think of my 5'1 friend whose whole life is over, and since more so cause i was myself 5'7 once and now 5'11 and still growing due to genes or exercise whatever, but since i know that guy personally i cannot fathom how lucky i am and how retarded i would be to waste this gift or opportunity life gave me, damn , that really cherishes me up that i have so much better compared to these, you should never be ungrateful in life if ur physically and mentally self capable to fight for urself and thrive urself without any one putting u down