Self proclaimed TRUECELS post yourself here

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Could you list or is it personal? Economic?
Sure, I'll list. In no particular order of importance.

1. I have OCD, the germophobic kind. The surgical instruments that were used on me will always be considered unclean in my mind, no matter how many times it's cleaned properly.

2. I've seen rhinoplasty videos and they're nasty AF, the way they cut open your face and push the skin over your face, it's nightmare fuel. I know I won't be conscious while that takes place, but having seen it, I'd refuse to do it.

3. Money could be spent in a better fashion. I currently don't have the funds but by the end of the year, I would. I would find it rather selfish to use the money on me like that while there's better use for it.

4. I would become bitter if women treated me better as a result of me looking better. I don't want to be like that.

5. I'm already too old for it. I'm nearing my 30s. I should've done it before, when it mattered.

6. I don't care about it enough to change it. Yes, I've complained about it many times but at the same time, I don't care that it looks awful. Mostly because I know it's not my genetics that caused this but my environment.

7. If I fix this one failo, I get two in return -- I'll become as a philtrumcel and my upper lip becomes thinner which takes away from the one thing I've been complimented on by both boys and girls (online).
 
you don't know me
You have no friends so i doubt many people know you.

Theres alot you can do to make friends it really isnt very hard

Youre just a copefueled loser whos fat and incelled at 24. You have like 50-60 years left to live and you’re already rotting

Lose some weight, grow your hair, speak to people, and get a grip
 
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Sure, I'll list. In no particular order of importance.

1. I have OCD, the germophobic kind. The surgical instruments that were used on me will always be considered unclean in my mind, no matter how many times it's cleaned properly.

2. I've seen rhinoplasty videos and they're nasty AF, the way they cut open your face and push the skin over your face, it's nightmare fuel. I know I won't be conscious while that takes place, but having seen it, I'd refuse to do it.

3. Money could be spent in a better fashion. I currently don't have the funds but by the end of the year, I would. I would find it rather selfish to use the money on me like that while there's better use for it.

4. I would become bitter if women treated me better as a result of me looking better. I don't want to be like that.

5. I'm already too old for it. I'm nearing my 30s. I should've done it before, when it mattered.

6. I don't care about it enough to change it. Yes, I've complained about it many times but at the same time, I don't care that it looks awful. Mostly because I know it's not my genetics that caused this but my environment.

7. If I fix this one failo, I get two in return -- I'll become as a philtrumcel and my upper lip becomes thinner which takes away from the one thing I've been complimented on by both boys and girls (online).
Why dont you try and manually fix it a bit, and then go out and try and meet people, to be honest, with enough effort, losing your virginity probably isnt that hard just with a random LTB
 
Why dont you try and manually fix it a bit, and then go out and try and meet people, to be honest, with enough effort, losing your virginity probably isnt that hard just with a random LTB
It's not fixable because my main problem is the cartilage that's become weakened. There's no fix for that. To be honest, losing my virginity isn't an issue. I can always opt for escorts. That, or I can take up on my friend's offer to fuck one of his FWBs, lol. I am religious (Islamic) so I won't be doing these things. Although it's interesting to note that from an Islamic perspective, I'm allowed to have a rhinoplasty because it's not a cosmetic procedure but rather a restorative procedure.
 
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You can be an incel and not a truecel. The defintion for an incel is pretty broad but truecel is much more narrow. My idea of a truecel is someone visibly ugly that would stand out in a crowd. And on top of that further truecels have some falio trait that cannot be solved through any easy or straight forward means.

It could be one extreme thing like being 5'2 or a combintion of many falios like bald recession or the result of some condition. An incel is simply a man who under the current Western Standards cannot get laid or attain a meaningful relationship. An incel can in many cases without autism still get male friends and will be treated with basic respect if they take care of themselves. Incels have a few major falios many of which can be fixed with effort but not enough falios that they will be noticeable ugly.

Examples of truecels or borderline truecel guys
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Either they look genuinely ugly to most people or they have an extreme condition that results in physical deformity deformities bad enough that it will effect employment and basic interactions at a gas station.

Incels
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An incel is a pretty broad camp 30% of men fall into it. Basically anyone sub 5 or anyone who is average in attractiveness but with mental illness can be one. But these men are still not going to be treated like dog shit by randos and if they are not autistic they could have male friends. Incels can still easily have jobs and on the outside be seen as normal. Truecels are the bottom 1-5% of society
 
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It's not fixable because my main problem is the cartilage that's become weakened. There's no fix for that. To be honest, losing my virginity isn't an issue. I can always opt for escorts. That, or I can take up on my friend's offer to fuck one of his FWBs, lol. I am religious (Islamic) so I won't be doing these things. Although it's interesting to note that from an Islamic perspective, I'm allowed to have a rhinoplasty because it's not a cosmetic procedure but rather a restorative procedure.
Fair enough
 
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You can be an incel and not a truecel. The defintion for an incel is pretty broad but truecel is much more narrow. My idea of a truecel is someone visibly ugly that would stand out in a crowd. And on top of that further truecels have some falio trait that cannot be solved through any easy or straight forward means.

It could be one extreme thing like being 5'2 or a combintion of many falios like bald recession or the result of some condition. An incel is simply a man who under the current Western Standards cannot get laid or attain a meaningful relationship. An incel can in many cases without autism still get male friends and will be treated with basic respect if they take care of themselves. Incels have a few major falios many of which can be fixed with effort but not enough falios that they will be noticeable ugly.

Examples of truecels or borderline truecel guys
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Either they look genuinely ugly to most people or they have an extreme condition that results in physical deformity

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An incel is a pretty broad camp 30% of men fall into it. Basically anyone sub 5 or anyone who is average in attractiveness but with mental illness can be one. But these men are still not going to be treated like dog shit by randos and if they are not autistic they could have male friends.
I think the last guy in your example of truecels should be discounted. He's handicapped unlike those other two individuals. I always exclude handicapped people from PSL because they fall outside the fold due to their disabilities. And the last guy in your list of incels doesn't look bad, he's just fat. If he lost weight, shaved off his beard he'd be a weak HTN considering his good eye area. My two cents.
 
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You have no friends so i doubt many people know you.

Theres alot you can do to make friends it really isnt very hard

Youre just a copefueled loser whos fat and incelled at 24. You have like 50-60 years left to live and you’re already rotting

Lose some weight, grow your hair, speak to people, and get a grip
I was literally diagnosed as anorexic by a doctor, went from 180 to 160 lbs in 2 months at 6'0 without trying :lul: keep assuming shit
 
Yeah and this isn’t incels.is either so wrong forum for this thread pal
Well wtf do you do here because its as much of an incel forum as .is
 
I think the last guy in your example of truecels should be discounted. He's handicapped unlike those other two individuals. I always exclude handicapped people from PSL because they fall outside the fold due to their disabilities. And the last guy in your list of incels doesn't look bad, he's just fat. If he lost weight, shaved off his beard he'd be a weak HTN considering his good eye area. My two cents.
Well I said either due to extreme ugliness or genuine deformity due to circumstance or environment. My point is truecels are not normal dudes at all you would notice them standing out. Also that guy was an incel shooter he had a major falio and didn't fix it but he was still an incel.

Being above sub 5 is possible for most men incels also result from autism too. Elliot is another example I'd use. He was not as subpar looking as the other guys but also not great looking mediocre height and severe mental illness. If he had been Chadlite white guy he would have been fine with his mental wiring but he was just a mediocre guy maybe slightly above average on a good day. You take a normal looking guy and give him Elliots mental issues and he is fucked as well.
 
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Well wtf do you do here because its as much of an incel forum as .is
No it isn’t. Incels over there just migrated over there to here and blackpill philosophy is apart of looksmaxxing. The incels here are just sad pathetic losers
 
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I was literally diagnosed as anorexic by a doctor, went from 180 to 160 lbs in 2 months at 6'0 without trying :lul: keep assuming shit
Well u dont look low bf%

Who gives a shit if u were diagnosed anorexic by a doctor? Is that meant to be some kind of achievement? I dont care. You couldve just stated ur body fat is lower than it seems

Either way your failure is your fault. Everyone is calling you mtn and you keep coping and crying about how awful your life is and how ugly you are

Try taking some responsibility. Its not gonna make my day any worse if you look like shit and have no friends, but its definitely going to make your day worse.

Take responsibility and try to improve LDAR faggot
 
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Well I said either due to extreme ugliness or genuine deformity due to circumstance or environment. My point is truecels are not normal dudes at all you would notice them standing out. Also that guy was an incel shooter he had a major falio and didn't fix it but he was still an incel.

Being above sub 5 is possible for most men incels also result from autism too. Elliot is another example I'd use. He was not as subpar looking as the other guys but also not great looking mediocre height and severe mental illness. If he had been Chadlite white guy he would have been fine with his mental wiring but he was just a mediocre guy maybe slightly above average on a good day.
The last guy was an incel shooter? What? Who's that guy?
 
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Damn. Another ER then; guy who looks or could look decent but is a stacysexual so copes with inceldom.
well you fail to take in account the mental aspect. If you are a totally mediocre looking dude with major mental issues then you are fucked. I think a large amount of these ER type dudes are more normal looking but they have by far worse mental problems. The better looking someone is who is an outcast the weirder they likely are.

This is why people who say NT is cope are full of it. The difference between ER and a guy who dates a becky is brain wiring
 
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Well u dont look low bf%

Who gives a shit if u were diagnosed anorexic by a doctor? Is that meant to be some kind of achievement? I dont care. You couldve just stated ur body fat is lower than it seems

Either way your failure is your fault. Everyone is calling you mtn and you keep coping and crying about how awful your life is and how ugly you are

Try taking some responsibility. Its not gonna make my day any worse if you look like shit and have no friends, but its definitely going to make your day worse.

Take responsibility and try to improve LDAR faggot
Vince mc mahon done
 
Damn. Another ER then; guy who looks or could look decent but is a stacysexual so copes with inceldom.
Probably more likely a mentalcel and a Waifusexual
 
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well you fail to take in account the mental aspect. If you are a totally mediocre looking dude with major mental issues then you are fucked. I think a large amount of these ER type dudes are more normal looking but they have by far worse mental problems. The better looking someone is who is an outcast the weirder they likely are.

This is why people who say NT is cope are full of it. The difference between ER and a guy who dates a becky is brain wiring
I mean, that English guy wasn't mediocre looking, he looked above average. He just had to take care of himself but then again, he was also autistic and had ADHD (I just read up on him), so it wasn't really a looks problem (much like Elliot, but idk if he was autistic or not).
 
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No it isn’t. Incels over there just migrated over there to here and blackpill philosophy is apart of looksmaxxing. The incels here are just sad pathetic losers
@drop why did you “🤢” react this it’s true
 
Probably more likely a mentalcel and a Waifusexual
mentalcel is legit tho. Sure chad can get away with being a pedo or a serial killer or whatever but normies cannot. I think it also destroys them more since they are still apart of society Elliot was still somewhat accepted but still so far away. If you are close to succeeding but never can and you are off it hurts more then someone born a freak at least they accept they are not normal from a young age.

Elliot wanted nothing more then to be accepted and he was always adjacent to society being an outsider looking in is worse then being a complete outcast because you still always have a chance. As people got to know him and his weirdness was known they alienated him thats gotta a kill a man
 
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@drop why did you “🤢” react this it’s true
calling incels sad pathetic losers when its something they cant control most of the time
 
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calling incels sad pathetic losers when its something they cant control most of the time
They literally can looksmaxx thats why there here they can go gym and get a job for surgeries. However that only applies if they have a decent base which i do understand if not then it isn’t in there control
 
I mean, that English guy wasn't mediocre looking, he looked above average. He just had to take care of himself but then again, he was also autistic and had ADHD (I just read up on him), so it wasn't really a looks problem (much like Elliot, but idk if he was autistic or not).
If your normie or even HTN but got major issues you might as well be an incel. Only chads can get away with it and even then only a minority of women put up with it.

Chads who acted mentally ill or the pedo tinder experiment still got like 90% less matches or responses still mogs most guys but it dramatically effected their outcomes. If you take a normie and reduce his odds by 90% its over
 
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They literally can looksmaxx thats why there here they can go gym and get a job for surgeries. However that only applies if they have a decent base which i do understand if not then it isn’t in there control
yeah exactly most ppl here are incels trying to improve their situation through looksmaxxing

i dont find that pathetic
 
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Yeah maybe the narcissistic indians, @Lebgfinal and @Yuno_howitez are
Everyone who regularly uses this forum is a sad pathetic loser

I lost my virginity at 15, i have 4 parties in the next 3 weeks, i have a high social standing.

Im still a pathetic loser for being on here
 
yeah exactly most ppl here are incels trying to improve their situation through looksmaxxing

i dont find that pathetic
Problem is most people here are trolls/shitposters and just come from tik tok they are the fucking losers is what I meant
 
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Everyone who regularly uses this forum is a sad pathetic loser

I lost my virginity at 15, i have 4 parties in the next 3 weeks, i have a high social standing.

Im still a pathetic loser for being on here
Mirin the age you lost it I only just lost mine 3 months ago at 17 lol late bloomer I know and mirin the fact you can actually fun at parties
But no I wouldn’t say you are I respect you just like anyone else here who takes this path seriously and isn’t a shitposter
 
Problem in my case is that it started when I was a literal baby. I fell face first often as a baby, toddler and as a child. I wisened up around puberty but by then the damage was already done. And then being caught up in fights and getting punched in the nose repeatedly probably has had an effect as well, but not as bad as the ones in my childhood as those were formative years.
Where were ur folks jfl
 
If your normie or even HTN but got major issues you might as well be an incel. Only chads can get away with it and even then only a minority of women put up with it.

Chads who acted mentally ill or the pedo tinder experiment still got like 90% less matches or responses still mogs most guys but it dramatically effected their outcomes.
I do think that it's important to make the distinction between a looks-based incel and a mental-based incel. Those regular-looking guys or HTNs should be classified as mentalcels rather than incels as the term incel is associated with bad looks in general. Even though the term itself stands for "involuntary celibate" and doesn't necessarily indicate one's looks level.
 
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I do think that it's important to make the distinction between a looks-based incel and a mental-based incel. Those regular-looking guys or HTNs should be classified as mentalcels rather than incels as the term incel is associated with bad looks in general. Even though the term itself stands for "involuntary celibate" and doesn't necessarily indicate one's looks level.
Well my point was its sorta multiple factors. If your not good looking enough to slay on tinder and your a mentalcel then its kinda a wrap
 
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Mirin the age you lost it I only just lost mine 3 months ago at 17 lol late bloomer I know and mirin the fact you can actually fun at parties
But no I wouldn’t say you are I respect you just like anyone else here who takes this path seriously and isn’t a shitposter
I definitely am. This website is like my alter ego where i dont really shitpost but i can freely say what I want. I havent really looksmaxxed much other than leaning down, im definitely not a pathetic loser IRL but when im on this forum i am a pathetic loser
 
Well my point was its sorta multiple factors. If your not good looking enough to slay on tinder and your a mentalcel then its kinda a wrap
Maybe it's because I'm truecel based on face but I'd rather be GL and non-NT than ugly and NT (like I am).
 
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Maybe it's because I'm truecel based on face but I'd rather be GL and non-NT than ugly and NT (like I am).
Well none of those guys were good looking. They were average or maybe slightly above average guys with bad mental issues.
 
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Well none of those guys were good looking. They were average or maybe slightly above average guys with bad mental issues.
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. But I mean if I could've looked like prime Colton Haynes and have mental issues, I'd go with that. Besides, I already have mental issues anyway (I have OCD).
 
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