Serious HGH cycle

[stupid ugly loser]

I'm 16.5 with 18 bone age and ordered enough hgh for a 2 months of 8iu/day.

To get max igf1 levels, I plan on spamming carbs and maybe injecting insulin after pinning.

However, many threads say this is retarded and should pin and night for the hgh peak in deep sleep. However, that wouldn't make sense because no igf1 is being produced due to low insulin levels during sleep. When do I pin? If I carb load would that cause diabetes?

Second question: is starting dose of 6iu at 16.5 years old safe?

Need high IQ users...

@asdvek @FreakkForLife @enchanted_elixir

 

[BR32]

You're gonna kill yourself with insulin buddy

be careful

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Inb4 dnr @ 18 bone age

This is my last resort and final leap of faith

 

[Grievous]

Im dying what r these tags

Where did u even find the middle dude he aint been active for 4 years

 

[stupid ugly loser]

You're gonna kill yourself with insulin buddy

be careful

So when do I pin to not die

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Im dying what r these tags

Need high IQ answers asap

I'll tag u next time u seem high iq

 

[Grievous]

Need high IQ answers asap

I'll tag u next time u seem high iq

oh its u
The guy who begs for reps
@urban legend this is what this nigga resorts to

 

[BR32]

So when do I pin to not die

It depends on the type of insulin, amount of carbs, height, weight, etc

muhhhh pin insulin

@Grievous

 

[SamuelTrynaMog]

just focus on eating healthy, and workout dont do all this at 16

 

[stupid ugly loser]

It depends on the type of insulin, amount of carbs, height, weight, etc

muhhhh pin insulin

@Grievous

I'm 5 11, 65kg, I plan on eating any simple carb, probably sugar,after pinning and increase amount sugar gradually

I'm doing carbs becus I can't afford lantus insulin after buying hgh

 

[BR32]

I'm 5 11, 65kg, I plan on eating any simple carb, probably sugar,after pinning and increase amount sugar gradually

I'm doing carbs becus I can't afford lantus insulin after buying hgh

So you're not using insulin then?

 

[leaks]

Im dying what r these tags

 

[stupid ugly loser]

So you're not using insulin then?

I'm considering getting it because carbs increase blood sugar for the hit of insulin

But that would require me getting some more money, maybe I'm gonna Facebookmarketmaxx or smth idk

 

[BR32]

I'm considering getting it because carbs increase blood sugar for the hit of insulin

But that would require me getting some more money, maybe I'm gonna sell my Xbox or smth idk

I sold my old PS4 and bought roids with it

go for it

 

[introvertedextrover]

@Zagro help bro out

 

[stupid ugly loser]

I sold my old PS4 and bought roids with it

go for it

So when do I pin

Morning or night

I was gonna pin morning and load carbs after but after searching the forum all threads say it's retarded and even @Clavicular says pin at night

 

[care]

I'm 16.5 with 18 bone age and ordered enough hgh for a 2 months of 8iu/day.

To get max igf1 levels, I plan on spamming carbs and maybe injecting insulin after pinning.

However, many threads say this is retarded and should pin and night for the hgh peak in deep sleep. However, that wouldn't make sense because no igf1 is being produced due to low insulin levels during sleep. When do I pin? If I carb load would that cause diabetes?

Second question: is starting dose of 6iu at 16.5 years old safe?

Need high IQ users...

@asdvek @FreakkForLife @enchanted_elixir

Prob shouldn’t start with insulin

 

[introvertedextrover]

I'm considering getting it because carbs increase blood sugar for the hit of insulin

But that would require me getting some more money, maybe I'm gonna Facebookmarketmaxx or smth idk

Doesnt carbs blunt the release of gh if eaten within a 60-90m time frame?

 

[BR32]

So when do I pin

Morning or night

I was gonna pin morning and load carbs after but after searching the forum all threads say it's retarded and even @Clavicular says pin at night

Tbh I don't know

I haven't used insulin

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Prob shouldn’t start with insulin

But my usually diet is extremely devoid of carbs so my insulin levels are probably very low so igf1 would be low and blunting the hgh response

 

[introvertedextrover]

So when do I pin

Morning or night

I was gonna pin morning and load carbs after but after searching the forum all threads say it's retarded and even @Clavicular says pin at night

no it doesnt matter this nigga zagro is very educated on gh from my understanding he said in my hgh thread it doesnt matter you can pin morning and still have your endogenous gh secreation at night, Pinning at night just overlaps it doesnt increase the amount your producing from pinning its the same amount sleeping after a pin doesnt magically make your 8 ius to 13-15 ius is what your thinking.

 

[care]

But my usually diet is extremely devoid of carbs so my insulin levels are probably very low so igf1 would be low and blunting the hgh response

Its not about the diet, insulin is risky, one mistake and ur gone forever

I wouldn’t start with insulin, Just run test and gh

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Doesnt carbs blunt the release of gh if eaten within a 60-90m time frame?

According to grok, carbs trigger insulin release, which decreases natural production of hgh, but this doesn't matter becus I'm pinning and using exogenous hgh.

Insulin also increase livers sensitivity to hgh and thus more hgh converts to igf 1

So carbs and EXOGENOUS hgh is optimal

 

[introvertedextrover]

According to grok, carbs triggers insulin release, which decreases natural production of hgh, but this doesn't matter becus I'm pinning and using exogenous hgh.

Insulin also increase livers sensitivity to hgh and thus more hgh converts to igf 1

So carbs and EXOGENOUS hgh is optimal

i think your info is wrong dawg, even with pinning you should be fasted it deff blunts the release if you have high bg when pinning. And i think insulin personally is overkill i havent researched much into slin but usually niggas jjust get fat on that shit or cause them self hypoglycemia n or possible death so be careful but im all for the cycle

 

[stupid ugly loser]

no it doesnt matter this nigga zagro is very educated on gh from my understanding he said in my hgh thread it doesnt matter you can pin morning and still have your endogenous gh secreation at night, Pinning at night just overlaps it doesnt increase the amount your producing from pinning its the same amount sleeping after a pin doesnt magically make your 8 ius to 13-15 ius is what your thinking.

Alr then ig these details don't matter I'll just pin everyday and hope for the best

 

[stupid ugly loser]

i think your info is wrong dawg, even with pinning you should be fasted it deff blunts the release if you have high bg when pinning. And i think insulin personally is overkill i havent researched much into slin but usually niggas jjust get fat on that shit or cause them self hypoglycemia n or possible death so be careful but im all for the cycle

Idk @MyDreamIsToBe183CM pins insulin with hgh and had insane results

I think he grew a lot and had a physique ascension

 

[introvertedextrover]

Idk @MyDreamIsToBe183CM pins insulin with hgh and had insane results

I think he grew a lot and had a physique ascension

link? and yeah alot of people gett insane results on slin but this is the very handpicked few since alot js fuck up n end up in the hospital. Honestly id just run test and eq nuke your e2 with the eq and run gh along side it and grow best cylce twin mirin

 

[stupid ugly loser]

link? and yeah alot of people gett insane results on slin but this is the very handpicked few since alot js fuck up n end up in the hospital. Honestly id just run test and eq nuke your e2 with the eq and run gh along side it and grow best cylce twin mirin

Why EQ? Wouldnt any AI work?

 

[stupid ugly loser]

link? and yeah alot of people gett insane results on slin but this is the very handpicked few since alot js fuck up n end up in the hospital. Honestly id just run test and eq nuke your e2 with the eq and run gh along side it and grow best cylce twin mirin

Physique update after 3 weeks of working out on 8 IU hgh

Before/september 29 the day I started gym maxxing Now October 22 I see a pretty decent change imo I haven’t ran anything yet besides my heightmaxxing stack I’ve been running 8 IU hgh, 2.5 mg letrozole, 30 IU insulin:feelsgah: I might hop on roids at around 6 months later maybe And...

looksmax.org

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Bump

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Dead fucking thread niggers

 

[introvertedextrover]

Why EQ? Wouldnt any AI work?

yes an ai would work but eq would already surpress e2 like crazy, this is personally just the cycle im on atm and its working really well in terms of growth

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I'm 16.5 with 18 bone age and ordered enough hgh for a 2 months of 8iu/day.

To get max igf1 levels, I plan on spamming carbs and maybe injecting insulin after pinning.

However, many threads say this is retarded and should pin and night for the hgh peak in deep sleep. However, that wouldn't make sense because no igf1 is being produced due to low insulin levels during sleep. When do I pin? If I carb load would that cause diabetes?

Second question: is starting dose of 6iu at 16.5 years old safe?

Need high IQ users...

@asdvek @FreakkForLife @enchanted_elixir

First, check if your growth place or closed, the a way to know this is if you’ve grown in the past year.

Second of all, as far as I know, insulin is not involved in the creation of IGF-1. Insulin mimics, IGF-I, so cells may interpret insulin at the IGF-1 and thus, it’ll have a similar effect as IGF-1.

So, I would recommend that you pin before you go to bed, and increase your protein intake, especially before bed to maximize your levels.

Read my thread on protein and heightmaxing.

I would personally drop the insulin, or be careful with it.

 

[birthdefect]

I'm 16.5 with 18 bone age and ordered enough hgh for a 2 months of 8iu/day.

To get max igf1 levels, I plan on spamming carbs and maybe injecting insulin after pinning.

However, many threads say this is retarded and should pin and night for the hgh peak in deep sleep. However, that wouldn't make sense because no igf1 is being produced due to low insulin levels during sleep. When do I pin? If I carb load would that cause diabetes?

Second question: is starting dose of 6iu at 16.5 years old safe?

Need high IQ users...

@asdvek @FreakkForLife @enchanted_elixir

Z x your weight in kgs / 7 x 3 = daily iu dose
where Z is any number you choose between 0.24 and 0.47 (afaik the upper limit is decided because bone aging usually goes at a faster rate than longitudinal growth). titrate up to the dose slowly if you wanna feel better but you could technically start at a higher dose to get to the finished dose sooner

insulin if you know how to handle it is probably beneficial cus i know it increases liver secretion of igf1.

i assume youve already checked whether plates are open. if you want i can provide you a source for ky19392 as a way to delay bone aging without harsh ai's. research first but its pretty good, has oral bioavailability.

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Z x your weight in kgs / 7 x 3 = daily iu dose
where Z is any number you choose between 0.24 and 0.47 (afaik the upper limit is decided because bone aging usually goes at a faster rate than longitudinal growth). titrate up to the dose slowly if you wanna feel better but you could technically start at a higher dose to get to the finished dose sooner

insulin if you know how to handle it is probably beneficial cus i know it increases liver secretion of igf1.

i assume youve already checked whether plates are open. if you want i can provide you a source for ky19392 as a way to delay bone aging without harsh ai's. research first but its pretty good, has oral bioavailability.

So bone age 18 doesn't mean long bones can't grow

I plan on starting at 6iu and cruising at 8iu

Sure bro DM

 

[stupid ugly loser]

First, check if your growth place or closed, the a way to know this is if you’ve grown in the past year.

Second of all, as far as I know, insulin is not involved in the creation of IGF-1. Insulin mimics, IGF-I, so cells may interpret insulin at the IGF-1 and thus, it’ll have a similar effect as IGF-1.

So, I would recommend that you pin before you go to bed, and increase your protein intake, especially before bed to maximize your levels.

Read my thread on protein and heightmaxing.

I would personally drop the insulin, or be careful with it.

I plan on taking the traditional stack but can't find igf1 source.

Btw igf lr3 and igf des are cope for height growth right? They don't travel to growth plates right?

 

[birthdefect]

So bone age 18 doesn't mean long bones can't grow

I plan on starting at 6iu and cruising at 8iu

Sure bro DM

i have no idea what you mean

i recommend you start a bit lower, might get some brutal bloat and carpal tunnel

dm me if you want after you research yourself

 

[birthdefect]

I plan on taking the traditional stack but can't find igf1 source.

Btw igf lr3 and igf des are cope for height growth right? They don't travel to growth plates right?

most likely yea

 

[birthdefect]

you could take a wnt agonist to maximally hypertrophy any remaining chondrocytes

 

[stupid ugly loser]

you could take a wnt agonist to maximally hypertrophy any remaining chondrocytes

How much height would that give approximately

 

[birthdefect]

How much height would that give approximately

idk bruh i dont speak to your plates

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I plan on taking the traditional stack but can't find igf1 source.

Btw igf lr3 and igf des are cope for height growth right? They don't travel to growth plates right?

Yeah, I mean des does but it’s a horrible way to do so because it’ll also idk with cells thst aren’t part of your plates so you’ll also have bigger tendons and muscles in the area of injection.

And you also have to be super precise with your injection location, making it tok risky.

You just need a HGH booster, lots of protein and an aromatase inhibitor, and maybe T4.

 

[stupid ugly loser]

Yeah, I mean des does but it’s a horrible way to do so because it’ll also idk with cells thst aren’t part of your plates so you’ll also have bigger tendons and muscles in the area of injection.

And you also have to be super precise with your injection location, making it tok risky.

You just need a HGH booster, lots of protein and an aromatase inhibitor, and maybe T4.

So does ghrp mog generic hgh

I saw a post on how 9iu of generic is equal to natural production

 

[enchanted_elixir]

you could take a wnt agonist to maximally hypertrophy any remaining chondrocytes

Not sure that’s a good idea

 

[enchanted_elixir]

So does ghrp mog generic hgh

I saw a post on how 9iu of generic is equal to natural production

If you can get access to human growth, hormone, just use it. I don’t know your genetics, or your epigenome so I can’t tell you.

In the event that your body, for some reason cannot make as much growth hormone as it should, even if you give it enough GHRP, directly injecting growth hormone bypasses that.

Some people just naturally don’t make us much growth hormone due to biological or other kinds of reasons, so in the event that this is you, directly injecting GH bypasses this because you don’t have to use your own body to produce it, which is suboptimal if this is actually you

 

[stupid ugly loser]

If you can get access to human growth, hormone, just use it. I don’t know your genetics, or your epigenome so I can’t tell you.

In the event that your body, for some reason cannot make as much growth hormone as it should, even if you give it enough GHRP, directly injecting growth hormone bypasses that.

Some people just naturally don’t make us much growth hormone due to biological or other kinds of reasons, so in the event that this is you, directly injecting GH bypasses this because you don’t have to use your own body to produce it, which is suboptimal if this is actually you

Giga mindblown

So I should run ghrp first and if I don't notice height growth THEN I resort to hgh, which is be the backup/suboptimal method??

Giga confusing bcus the entire forum shits on ghrp and dick sucks hgh

 

[birthdefect]

Not sure that’s a good idea

at 18 bone age may as well finish off with a "bang" to the growth plates

i would hope he knew what wnt upregulation would mean for the growth plates

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Giga mindblown

So I should run ghrp first and if I don't notice height growth THEN I resort to hgh, which is be the backup/suboptimal method??

Giga confusing bcus the entire forum shits on ghrp and dick sucks hgh

If you do run GHRP first, I would recommend that you run tests for your levels with GHRP versus your levels with HGH.

 

[stupid ugly loser]

at 18 bone age may as well finish off with a "bang" to the growth plates

Do u have a source for it

 

[enchanted_elixir]

at 18 bone age may as well finish off with a "bang" to the growth plates

i would hope he knew what wnt upregulation would mean for the growth plates

I am saying that this is going to have a lot of unintended side effects that you won’t like.