Seriously considering roping now. 17 absolute ER tier density that even normies at my school say is thinning.

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

Always had pretty bad density, nw1.5-2 and big forehead since birth. Hit the jackpot for hair clearly. When lean I got compared to/told I looked identical to a huge slayer in my area facial structure wise aswell. But even at 14, 2 different girls said to me ‘why have you got basically no hair?’ Or something along those lines. Now at 17 I’m getting more comments than ever. I have had multiple since the restart of school about how I’m thinning and shit from NORMIES and idk what to do anymore man. I hate it so much. I have heard about fin sides and especially considering I’m only 17 I am scared to take it. Minox seems promising but I don’t want to be fucking forced to use it for life. Idk what else. Fucking scalp massage seems like huge copium but I’m still sitting here crinkling my scalp like a kike. Honestly the option that brings me the most comfort is just roping but I don’t want to make my family sad. I hate it all.

Any help. ANY. I’d appreciate greatly.

 

[´´´´´´´´]

blow ur mom's credit card on a hair transplant

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Fin can’t save you, pray that verteprofin isn’t a bust so you can get infinite hair transplants

 

[igbekele007]

Fin can’t save you

Elab

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Elab

You won’t see major regrowth on fin, it’s only for maintaining what you have and saving hair before it’s too far gone. If he has thinning all over min can help but he probably has some kind of health issue unrelated to MPB, then again he could also just be balding aggressively.

 

[AverageTevvezFan]

It just wasn’t meant to be bro. You aren’t going to be slaying anytime soon.

Hold off on fin. If I were you, I would consider topical dutasteride as it tends to go far less systemic than finasteride. It would also be useful to use either RU58841 or Eucapil. You could also use ketoconazole shampoo, which is supposed to help. Use the derminator-2 for better absorbance of the topical compounds.

Eventually, you would get a HT and maintain this routine indefinitely. Minoxidil could be an option too, if you wanted to try that before a hair transplant.

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

If he has thinning all over

It’s not all over. My density kinda always has been bad but I’m pretty sure I’ve norwooded beyond that literally from 13-now practically never got to enjoy a full head of hair.

 

[AscensionMan98]

It just wasn’t meant to be bro. You aren’t going to be slaying anytime soon.

Hold off on fin. If I were you, I would consider topical dutasteride as it tends to go far less systemic than finasteride. It would also be useful to use either RU58841 or Eucapil. You could also use ketoconazole shampoo, which is supposed to help. Use the derminator-2 for better absorbance of the topical compounds.

Eventually, you would get a HT and maintain this routine indefinitely. Minoxidil could be an option too, if you wanted to try that before a hair transplant.

Whats wrong with fin, its the basic starting point imo. The ED stuff is memes and no girl will fuck a baldie, esp if their in 20s so the dick wont get a chance to work.

He might need duasteride if its like this at 17.

 

[AscensionMan98]

It’s not all over. My density kinda always has been bad but I’m pretty sure I’ve norwooded beyond that literally from 13-now practically never got to enjoy a full head of hair.

Do you have good muscle building ability, wonder if this is cause ur a high t monster. I knew some super high t men who balked early and they built muscle easily

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Always had pretty bad density, nw1.5-2 and big forehead since birth. Hit the jackpot for hair clearly. When lean I got compared to/told I looked identical to a huge slayer in my area facial structure wise aswell. But even at 14, 2 different girls said to me ‘why have you got basically no hair?’ Or something along those lines. Now at 17 I’m getting more comments than ever. I have had multiple since the restart of school about how I’m thinning and shit from NORMIES and idk what to do anymore man. I hate it so much. I have heard about fin sides and especially considering I’m only 17 I am scared to take it. Minox seems promising but I don’t want to be fucking forced to use it for life. Idk what else. Fucking scalp massage seems like huge copium but I’m still sitting here crinkling my scalp like a kike. Honestly the option that brings me the most comfort is just roping but I don’t want to make my family sad. I hate it all.

Any help. ANY. I’d appreciate greatly.

Redenesyl, Minoxidil, Dermaroller, Biotin and Keratin.

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

Redenesyl, Minoxidil, Dermaroller, Biotin and Keratin.

What does everything here do?

 

[igbekele007]

Always had pretty bad density, nw1.5-2 and big forehead since birth. Hit the jackpot for hair clearly. When lean I got compared to/told I looked identical to a huge slayer in my area facial structure wise aswell. But even at 14, 2 different girls said to me ‘why have you got basically no hair?’ Or something along those lines. Now at 17 I’m getting more comments than ever. I have had multiple since the restart of school about how I’m thinning and shit from NORMIES and idk what to do anymore man. I hate it so much. I have heard about fin sides and especially considering I’m only 17 I am scared to take it. Minox seems promising but I don’t want to be fucking forced to use it for life. Idk what else. Fucking scalp massage seems like huge copium but I’m still sitting here crinkling my scalp like a kike. Honestly the option that brings me the most comfort is just roping but I don’t want to make my family sad. I hate it all.

Any help. ANY. I’d appreciate greatly.

IMMA GO SLIGHTLY HIGH IQ ON THIS ONE BUT NORWOOD REAPER IS ABOUT TO SELL YOU ON WEBCAM SO YOU MIGHT BETTER GET SOME COFFEE TO CONCENTRATE:

See a primary care first. Get all the shit in ur blood checked (esp. thyroid and iron).

Then, if they don't find anything, they'll send u to a dermatologist, who'll prob put you on Min 5% foam and perhaps after a few years (u may get capped by then tbh) finasteride as well.

In the meantime, start watching all the MPMD videos to educate yourself on the shit, you will probably need to go above and beyond the normie stack (Minoxidil and Finasteride), also start doing the cope shit like Ketoconazole etc, see this post:

Ultimate indepth anti hair loss guide

intro hello guys and welcome to my first guide, my ultimate anti hair loss guide. I am not a medical expert but like to research a lot. There are also a lot of scam products on the market that I want to point out. My main knowledge comes from Derek (YouTube More plates more dates) and Kevin...

looksmax.org

This obviously won't save your hair, but you will keep more while aging towards 18-19 yo, by then you can start nuking and in the meantime you can assess the risk better also (getting your test, estrogen, DHT studied etc.) see:



I expect that in 1-2 years, minoxidil sulfotransferese (if you cannot do this efficiently, topical minoxidil won't do shit for you) will be much better understood, along with ways to turn people from non-responders to responders (microneedling and tretinoin studies are promising). If not, low-dose oral minoxidil side-effect profile will also be much better understood so you will be able to consider that as well.

 

[chrisN]

Dermarolling and start saving for a hair transplant if it is viable

 

[PointOfNoReturn]

 

[AverageTevvezFan]

Whats wrong with fin, its the basic starting point imo. The ED stuff is memes and no girl will fuck a baldie, esp if their in 20s so the dick wont get a chance to work.

He might need duasteride if its like this at 17.

He’s 17. Cutting off systemic DHT with fin at such a young age will undoubtedly fuck up his development and hormone balance.

The whole point is that finasteride will go systemic no matter what, but dutasteride does not go very systemic if you apply it topically.

 

[Sir Galachad]

Always had pretty bad density, nw1.5-2 and big forehead since birth. Hit the jackpot for hair clearly. When lean I got compared to/told I looked identical to a huge slayer in my area facial structure wise aswell. But even at 14, 2 different girls said to me ‘why have you got basically no hair?’ Or something along those lines. Now at 17 I’m getting more comments than ever. I have had multiple since the restart of school about how I’m thinning and shit from NORMIES and idk what to do anymore man. I hate it so much. I have heard about fin sides and especially considering I’m only 17 I am scared to take it. Minox seems promising but I don’t want to be fucking forced to use it for life. Idk what else. Fucking scalp massage seems like huge copium but I’m still sitting here crinkling my scalp like a kike. Honestly the option that brings me the most comfort is just roping but I don’t want to make my family sad. I hate it all.

Any help. ANY. I’d appreciate greatly.

Brutal, but it started at 16 for me. I got no comments from normies because I wasn't even good looking to begin with. Start with Minoxidil first. It will change your life, trust me. Scalp massages are copium. I am currently getting botox injections every 6 months to "simulate" permanent muscle relaxation. Can't tell if it works so far. You have another relatively safe option though: Ru-58841. I ordered mine from minoxidilmax.

Don't loose hope and panic, I know what you're going through.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Fix your lifestyle, retard. Hair is life.

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

Do you have good muscle building ability, wonder if this is cause ur a high t monster. I knew some super high t men who balked early and they built muscle easily

Honestly don’t know. Haven’t really lifted properly. Could grow some moustache hair at 13-14 though and minor cheek hair aswell if that makes any difference.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Brutal, but it started at 16 for me. I got no comments from normies because I wasn't even good looking to begin with. Start with Minoxidil first. It will change your life, trust me. Scalp massages are copium. I am currently getting botox injections every 6 months to "simulate" permanent muscle relaxation. Can't tell if it works so far. You have another relatively safe option though: Ru-58841. I ordered mine from minoxidilmax.

Don't loose hope and panic, I know what you're going through.

How much does the Botox cost per session?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

What does everything here do?

Grow your hair.
Redenesyl literally activates stem cells so you can grow new hair follicles.

 

[Sir Galachad]

How much does the Botox cost per session?

I paid 600€ for one session at a very reputable clinic. Pretty brutal, I know.

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

Fix your lifestyle, retard. Hair is life.

Idk what I’m doing wrong lifestyle wise tbh.

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

Grow your hair.
Redenesyl literally activates stem cells so you can grow new hair follicles.

Where do I get this? You sure it’s not cope?

 

[AscensionMan98]

Redenesyl, Minoxidil, Dermaroller, Biotin and Keratin.

How come no fin or duasteride

 

[bignosesmallchin]

Start saving for a transplant ASAP. Mention it to your parents even, no one deserves to go bald that young, maybe they will pay for it.

But honestly if I were you I would just shave the top of my head and get a good hair system for $500, should last you like 6-8 months. It’s not completely over when you lose your hair, it’s just over while you’re not able to fraud it or get a transplant.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Idk what I’m doing wrong lifestyle wise tbh.

There's something. Are you fat? Do you have smaller than average balls? Do you eat garbage food. Do you sleep less than 9 hours a day? Do you masturbate? Do you tan? Do you just rot home?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

How come no fin or duasteride

I forgot

 

[enchanted_elixir]

OP first needs a DHT blocker, like Dutasteride

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

Brutal, but it started at 16 for me. I got no comments from normies because I wasn't even good looking to begin with. Start with Minoxidil first. It will change your life, trust me. Scalp massages are copium. I am currently getting botox injections every 6 months to "simulate" permanent muscle relaxation. Can't tell if it works so far. You have another relatively safe option though: Ru-58841. I ordered mine from minoxidilmax.

Don't loose hope and panic, I know what you're going through.

Any good minox on Amazon or anything? Also don’t you literally lose all the hair that you may gain back if u don’t apply minox? And what does ru actually do?

 

[Deleted member 20631]

It’s not all over. My density kinda always has been bad but I’m pretty sure I’ve norwooded beyond that literally from 13-now practically never got to enjoy a full head of hair.

There’s still hope for you, though you’re probably bald for atleast the next few years. Theres trials going on currently for verteporfin which is a drug that blocks the creation of scar tissue.
Research is being done around it for regrowth of the donor area which if successful will mean you can get any number of hair transplants eventually getting to NW0 with good hair density.

There’s also another drug that has to do with prolactin but I forgot it’s name. Still both these treatments are pretty far off from being commercially available.

 

[Mediteraneanyoungcel]

OP first needs a DHT blocker, like Dutasteride

At 17?

 

[Sir Galachad]

Any good minox on Amazon or anything? Also don’t you literally lose all the hair that you may gain back if u don’t apply minox? And what does ru actually do?

Regaine Foam from amazon.
Ru is a topical androgen blocker with no reported systemic effects, but how exactly it works is still unknown

 

[Deleted member 20631]

I paid 600€ for one session at a very reputable clinic. Pretty brutal, I know.

600 every 6 months isn’t that bad. Is there a point in getting this if you’re already on fin, I know scalp tension contributes to hair loss.

If you get results make a post and tag me

 

[Deleted member 20631]

At 17?

Don’t you’ll fuck yourself up hard

 

[enchanted_elixir]

At 17?

Do you want to keep losing your hair?

I mean you don't have to take it, nobody is forcing you but if you're balding, you may want to block DHT.

 

[AscensionMan98]

He’s 17. Cutting off systemic DHT with fin at such a young age will undoubtedly fuck up his development and hormone balance.

The whole point is that finasteride will go systemic no matter what, but dutasteride does not go very systemic if you apply it topically.

what sort of development do u think he is gonna risk

 

[Deleted member 1140]

Whats wrong with fin, its the basic starting point imo. The ED stuff is memes and no girl will fuck a baldie, esp if their in 20s so the dick wont get a chance to work.

He might need duasteride if its like this at 17.

its not a meme u fucking nigger

 

[AscensionMan98]

Don’t you’ll fuck yourself up hard

My friend was taking fin in highschool tho at like 14-15 and had normal height growth and maintained his hair, but now fin doesn't work that well and at 25 he is starting duasteride. His other friend with similar balding issues NW03-NW04 by end of highschool. See the 4th and 5th pic.That was him. He wore a cap everywhere to class. It was cringe.

 

[AscensionMan98]

its not a meme u fucking nigger

did u get ED on it

 

[AscensionMan98]

There’s still hope for you, though you’re probably bald for atleast the next few years. Theres trials going on currently for verteporfin which is a drug that blocks the creation of scar tissue.
Research is being done around it for regrowth of the donor area which if successful will mean you can get any number of hair transplants eventually getting to NW0 with good hair density.

There’s also another drug that has to do with prolactin but I forgot it’s name. Still both these treatments are pretty far off from being commercially available.

Being bald for several years means he loses out in his prime youth years on bitches

 

[Deleted member 1140]

im slowly receding and trust me there is nothing right now that can help you if you carry mpb genes. fin cucks EVERYONE who takes it. porn addicts will not realize their libido dropped because they fap either way and people with 90% boner quality wont realize that their boners only go hard for 70% now.

im reading forums and subreddits that are hair related for years now, only 2 things u can hope for are pyrilutamide and verteporfin. pyrilutamide is still in studies (earliest release will be like 2024) and verteporfin is also still being studied with great success. it basically means u can get unlimited hair transplants if u got the money

 

[Deleted member 1140]

did u get ED on it

yes i did and im in contact with several users on here who experienced the same, not to mention tressless being filled with guys having side effects

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

Life is indeed circle, here lies op, a newcomer to baldcelism at 17 like me. I was also afraid of dutasteride/fin until 20, but now i have cured my baldceldom and never had sides though i was 3 years late

your choice live or die

Now at 17

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

im slowly receding and trust me there is nothing right now that can help you if you carry mpb genes. fin cucks EVERYONE who takes it. porn addicts will not realize their libido dropped because they fap either way and people with 90% boner quality wont realize that their boners only go hard for 70% now.

im reading forums and subreddits that are hair related for years now, only 2 things u can hope for are pyrilutamide and verteporfin. pyrilutamide is still in studies (earliest release will be like 2024) and verteporfin is also still being studied with great success. it basically means u can get unlimited hair transplants if u got the money

funny thing is pyru is androgen receptor antagonist which completely inhibits the activation of said receptors by all ANDROGENS

 

[Deleted member 1140]

funny thing is pyru is androgen receptor antagonist which completely inhibits the activation of said receptors by all ANDROGENS

yes but the point of it is that it doesnt go systemetic and still works. people in group buys claim it causes sides, phase 2 study says it doesnt. so its either a faked study by the chinese or guys using wrong vehicles for their drug or buying faked trash

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

yes but the point of it is that it doesnt go systemetic and still works. people in group buys claim it causes sides, phase 2 study says it doesnt. so its either a faked study by the chinese or guys using wrong vehicles for their drug or buying faked trash

topilutamide is the one you should refer to, it is the only non steroidal anti androgen that doesn't go systematic because it's metabolties which are SYSTEMATIC is NON ANTI ANDROGENIC and it's metabolites rapidly vanish in blood system because it degrades at 37degree

and funny off side is it is extremely expensive as fuck

 

[Deleted member 1140]

topilutamide is the one you should refer to, it is the only non steroidal anti androgen that doesn't go systematic because it's metabolties which are SYSTEMATIC is NON ANTI ANDROGENIC and it's metabolites rapidly vanish in blood system because it degrades at 37degree

and funny off side is it is extremely expensive as fuck

i read fluridil also causes ed but might try. this and cb

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

i read fluridil also causes ed but might try. this and cb

are you retarded? it's metabolites do indeed go systematic just to get degraded at milliseconds and even then if they aren't lets say degraded they are not anti androgenic at all

you can't literally have sides with it it's scientically correct JFL just get on dut tbh like me

 

[Jase]

Dermarolling and start saving for a hair transplant if it is viable

inst dermarolling a meme

 

[Deleted member 1140]

are you retarded? it's metabolites do indeed go systematic just to get degraded at milliseconds and even then if they aren't lets say degraded they are not anti androgenic at all

you can't literally have sides with it it's scientically correct JFL just get on dut tbh like me

nvm i remembered wrong. it doesnt cause sides but many people claim it doesnt work/barely works or has a shit tier lifetime