Settling the Prettyboy VS Hypermasc debate

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It is a well-known fact that females are usually most interested in "pretty" males when they are young and stop liking that type of guy once they get older.
Females, however, are at their most fertile from puberty to roughly their mid-20s; the older they get, the less fertile they are. Somewhat paradoxically, as they age they also start appreciating features they previously disliked, which coincide with hypermasculine features: for example, almost no young girl likes beards while many older women do.

Common sense would suggest that during their most fertile years, women would be attracted to masculine features first and foremost. While this is certainly true to an extent, I would argue that they're only attracted to certain masculine features, while other masculine features only really come into play later in life.

Young women (ages 16-25/30) usually like pretty-boy types. These are men who still display dimorphic features (good facial bones, decent height, broad shoulders etc.) that signify good health and genes, but who also feature an array of other features that society usually associates with females (beautiful skin, eyelashes, hair etc.). These are associated with femininity because they are youth signifiers first and foremost, and men are most attracted to young females since they are the most fertile (see graph below).

800px Erectile responses of healthy men


Youth signifiers create attractiveness, and not the other way around: this is why a lot of men still experience erections when exposed to underage girls. It's a biological imperative to feel strong sexual attraction to girls during their most fertile years, regardless of societal constraints. Females, however, age quicker than men and become capable of reproduction earlier; men develop later, and remain fertile for a lot more time than women. This is why young women still tend to go for slightly older males: they ALSO want men at their most fertile, but the ages at which males and females are at their most fertile are different.

If we compare patterns of male and female attractiveness considering their age, we find out something quite interesting; both women and men actually prefer the opposite sex when it is at their most fertile (16-25/30 for females, and 20-30/35 for men).
Women in their most fertile years do not like huge muscular burly bearded men: they prefer softer, more feminine-looking "Prettyboys". What society defines as feminine is merely what is evolutionarily considered "Beautiful". In this sense, beautiful traits transcend gender: this is why so many men are dumbfounded by the success prettyboys have with women. It doesn't make sense that feminine features attract females, yet they do: this is because society placed certain constraints on our primeval biological instincts. Society also enforced a type of monogamy in which females rarely, if ever, had any chance to actually show what males they preferred, they merely were married off to ensure their survival under the protection of a man that could provide for her. On the other hand, these men also shaped a vision of beauty in which women are the "fair sex", and therefore many beautiful features are associated with feminity.

Left to their own desires, however, it becomes clear that young women (16-25/30) want to reproduce with prettyboy types who display these features society deems feminine. While these males still need to display testosterone-fueled traits, they do in a way smaller scale than most men think: young women don't dislike hypermasculine men because they are "low estrogen", quite the contrary: these women are at their most fertile, and that's when they want the pretty guys. Ironically enough, it is the "low estrogen" older women who prefer hypermasculine men.

As they age, their fertility declines and so does their appreciation of pretty guys; this is because their biological imperative is rapidly changing from "have sex with the most reproductively fit man" to "get someone that can protect and provide for you".
This is where hypermasc things like gigamuscular bodies, thick beards and deep voices come into play: these do signify fighting prowess, and are therefore more desirable as the woman becomes older. The sad thing, however, is that as women develop more appreciation towards hypermasc-type, their attractiveness plummets.

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TL;DR: The only opinion that truly matters regarding male attractiveness is the opinion of the most fertile and attractive women, and they prefer prettyboys.
 
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Hybrid > everything else
 
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As a male I'd rather be hypermasc
 
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I'm a bit more on the masculine side and I notice I attract more aethletic/higher t girls. I like really high e girls so I'd like to be more pretty boy
 
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another reminder that if you are not masc and prettyboy hybrid its over, brad pitt is unmoggable in this regard
 
Masculine and goodlooking is ideal...
 
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I have said this before and i will say it again preetyboy with bones and height is the best pheno for slaying both young and older women..

Look at brad pitt he was a typical prettyboy who with aging turned into maesthetic tbh.

If you have bones prettyboy pheno is the best since with age you will start to look manly as fuck..

Similarly when women start to age they also become masculine so they need someone more masculine than them to make them feel feminine tbh.

Thats why teen and young girls who are at their most feminine like prettyboys since they dont need that much masculinity to offset their feminine looks
 
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prettyboys mog since jailbaits prefer them, who gives a fuck what a 30 year old post wall skank wants
 
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over for ogremaxxers like myself
 
More proof that blacks are less attractive to women because they are considered more masculine than whites. Blacks also usually don't have any pretty features.

Name one black pretty boy. You can't.

Black = TRUECEL.
 
More proof that blacks are less attractive to women because they are considered more masculine than whites. Blacks also usually don't have any pretty features.

Name one black pretty boy. You can't.

Black = TRUECEL.
On the other hand, asians are equally fucked because they do not display enough masculine features.
Whites enjoy the highest degree of popularity because they are the most likely to display both masculine features and beautiful features; the mythical "Pretty/Masc Hybrid" people often talk about around here.
 
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More proof that blacks are less attractive to women because they are considered more masculine than whites. Blacks also usually don't have any pretty features.

Name one black pretty boy. You can't.

Black = TRUECEL.
Chris Brown is a Jb slayer
 
On the other hand, asians are equally fucked because they do not display enough masculine features.
Whites enjoy the highest degree of popularity because they are the most likely to display both masculine features and beautiful features; the mythical "Pretty/Masc Hybrid" people often talk about around here.
I agree with this
 
Prettyboy face with an aesthetic physique aka prime David Laid, this is what everyone should be aiming for.
 
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It is a well-known fact that females are usually most interested in "pretty" males when they are young and stop liking that type of guy once they get older.
Females, however, are at their most fertile from puberty to roughly their mid-20s; the older they get, the less fertile they are. Somewhat paradoxically, as they age they also start appreciating features they previously disliked, which coincide with hypermasculine features: for example, almost no young girl likes beards while many older women do.

Common sense would suggest that during their most fertile years, women would be attracted to masculine features first and foremost. While this is certainly true to an extent, I would argue that they're only attracted to certain masculine features, while other masculine features only really come into play later in life.

Young women (ages 16-25/30) usually like pretty-boy types. These are men who still display dimorphic features (good facial bones, decent height, broad shoulders etc.) that signify good health and genes, but who also feature an array of other features that society usually associates with females (beautiful skin, eyelashes, hair etc.). These are associated with femininity because they are youth signifiers first and foremost, and men are most attracted to young females since they are the most fertile (see graph below).

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Youth signifiers create attractiveness, and not the other way around: this is why a lot of men still experience erections when exposed to underage girls. It's a biological imperative to feel strong sexual attraction to girls during their most fertile years, regardless of societal constraints. Females, however, age quicker than men and become capable of reproduction earlier; men develop later, and remain fertile for a lot more time than women. This is why young women still tend to go for slightly older males: they ALSO want men at their most fertile, but the ages at which males and females are at their most fertile are different.

If we compare patterns of male and female attractiveness considering their age, we find out something quite interesting; both women and men actually prefer the opposite sex when it is at their most fertile (16-25/30 for females, and 20-30/35 for men).
Women in their most fertile years do not like huge muscular burly bearded men: they prefer softer, more feminine-looking "Prettyboys". What society defines as feminine is merely what is evolutionarily considered "Beautiful". In this sense, beautiful traits transcend gender: this is why so many men are dumbfounded by the success prettyboys have with women. It doesn't make sense that feminine features attract females, yet they do: this is because society placed certain constraints on our primeval biological instincts. Society also enforced a type of monogamy in which females rarely, if ever, had any chance to actually show what males they preferred, they merely were married off to ensure their survival under the protection of a man that could provide for her. On the other hand, these men also shaped a vision of beauty in which women are the "fair sex", and therefore many beautiful features are associated with feminity.

Left to their own desires, however, it becomes clear that young women (16-25/30) want to reproduce with prettyboy types who display these features society deems feminine. While these males still need to display testosterone-fueled traits, they do in a way smaller scale than most men think: young women don't dislike hypermasculine men because they are "low estrogen", quite the contrary: these women are at their most fertile, and that's when they want the pretty guys. Ironically enough, it is the "low estrogen" older women who prefer hypermasculine men.

As they age, their fertility declines and so does their appreciation of pretty guys; this is because their biological imperative is rapidly changing from "have sex with the most reproductively fit man" to "get someone that can protect and provide for you".
This is where hypermasc things like gigamuscular bodies, thick beards and deep voices come into play: these do signify fighting prowess, and are therefore more desirable as the woman becomes older. The sad thing, however, is that as women develop more appreciation towards hypermasc-type, their attractiveness plummets.

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TL;DR: The only opinion that truly matters regarding male attractiveness is the opinion of the most fertile and attractive women, and they prefer prettyboys.
Shit makes sense why I always strike out with older women. I’ll take it
 
prettyboys mog since jailbaits prefer them, who gives a fuck what a 30 year old post wall skank wants
My thoughts exactly
 
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great minds think alike brother
I’ll be disregarding all iois over hoes from 30 unless they drop to their knees instantly. Ain’t got time for masculine thots
 
I’ve been trying to masculine max and it
Just isn’t my style since I have a good jaw. Cut back on the food and jaw more chiseled and I’m getting more iois now
 
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Another thing is that breeding with a hypermasculine male has a high risk of only benefitting a future son and hurting a future daughter, because very masculine traits look like shit on women (and as we all know daughters are way more guaranteed to pass on their genes than sons.) Meanwhile, prettyboy features look good on both genders so therefore it's a much more low-risk and higher reward benefit.
 
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More proof that blacks are less attractive to women because they are considered more masculine than whites. Blacks also usually don't have any pretty features.

Name one black pretty boy. You can't.

Black = TRUECEL.
Blacks slay thots and degenerate women with ease, fortunately for blacks, the local nightclubs and tinder are swimming with these women
 
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Imagine having to dig hours and hours of research to come up with A STUDY that says which men women like.
As if this is going to help you become prettyboy or masculine jfl.

Just looksmax as much as you can. Other things like phenotype you can’t change so you have to deal with it.
 
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Who cares? Just go for what it attainable for you.
 
zach cox is ideal
 
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What are considered pretty boy
Another thing is that breeding with a hypermasculine male has a high risk of only benefitting a future son and hurting a future daughter, because very masculine traits look like shit on women (and as we all know daughters are way more guaranteed to pass on their genes than sons.) Meanwhile, prettyboy features look good on both genders so therefore it's a much more low-risk and higher reward benefit.
what are considered pretty boy features? I’ve been called a pretty boy before
 
As a male I'd rather be hypermasc
Literally no reason to not want to be hybrid
If you’re like 6’5” with huge frame and a giga prettyboy face you’re going to get max respect from men and max adoration from women

Why settle for just respect from men as a hypermasc?
 
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More proof that blacks are less attractive to women because they are considered more masculine than whites. Blacks also usually don't have any pretty features.

Name one black pretty boy. You can't.

Black = TRUECEL.
 

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pedocel cope
 
I have said this before and i will say it again preetyboy with bones and height is the best pheno for slaying both young and older women..

Look at brad pitt he was a typical prettyboy who with aging turned into maesthetic tbh.

If you have bones prettyboy pheno is the best since with age you will start to look manly as fuck..

Similarly when women start to age they also become masculine so they need someone more masculine than them to make them feel feminine tbh.

Thats why teen and young girls who are at their most feminine like prettyboys since they dont need that much masculinity to offset their feminine looks
Pitt is not maesthetic. Calum von mogger is. You need muscles to be maesthetic. Lundgren is also maesthetic.
 

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