Moggie
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Pessimism post warning, numbers mostly made up.
For woman it is all about fat storage which is genetic but even then a majority of women do not have death tier fat storage genes. Woman do zero exercise and can have a body that men will like.
percentage of men who have an ideal physique is less than 10% in my opinion, whereas for women this number could be as high as 65% - 80%.
Body fat percentage, for men a body becomes un-aesthetic beyond 18% though for some this number could be as low as 15%. Facial features are no longer visible and the body loses any visible muscle and veins such as in the biceps or legs.
For women up to 40% can be seen as attractive by men, evidenced by Ashley Graham, Kelly Brook, Chloe Marshall
These women are between 26% - 38% body fat in my opinion, none would be failoed by there bodies.
Here is a 16% body fat woman, of course a female body builder could have a lower body fat percentage but this is about purely untrained people, after all this is all about the difficulty to attain the body looks threshold. A decent enough amount of men like this body so as not to warrant any gymming.
Here is a women at about 44% body fat, obviously fat and not 'curvy' yet she could probably get as many men as the skinny woman above.
This body fat percentage range is approx 15% to 45%
Chart of how many women fit in this range, relative to bmi vs men. The areas between lines is the people who are ideal.
The average body fat to bmi for a woman (represented by blue) at 15% (lower limit) is 16.5 and at 45% (upper limit) is at a bmi of 36, some getting away with a bmi of 42, and even an outlier at a bmi of near 50. The vast majority of women fit into the range of ideal looking body types where it will not hinder dating success.
Now for men however this is very different, the light purple represents men who are underweight or low ideal bmi who have athletic levels of body fat, these men will have just enough muscle to have a lean ottermode physique, examples can be found in triathletes, olympic gymnasts and taekwondo athletes. However, these bodies required significant training so I should really exclude them but thought to include them as they do not require weight bearing exercise. The dark purple is bodues that are ideal in terms of both body fat to bmi and lean mass to bmi, again I made shit up here with the limits being between 8% body fat at a bmi of 19 (lower) to 15% body fat at a bmi of 26.5. These are bodies that required training unlike the women in blue who have bodies requiring no training, women outside the blue area do not have to do much to enter it, yet men need to lift weights and do cardiovascular exercise.
Realising only 20% of women have bodies that hinder dating success and 95% - 98% of men do
Types of unideal male bodies
Skinny, bmi 16 - 21, 8 - 15 body fat percentage
Skinny fat, bmi 18 - 24, 15 - 25 body fat percentage
Overweight / fat, bmi 24 - 29, 25 - 30 body fat percentage
Obese / very fat, bmi 30+, body fat percentage 30+
Semi-Ideal male physiques
Athletic physique, bmi 16 - 19.5, 8 and less body fat percentage
Actual ideal physique Gymcel body bmi 19 - 26.5, 8 - 15 body fat percentage, less than 5 percent of men have a body of this calibre.
Suppose you strength train 1 hour per day, 3 days per week (push, pull, legs), and do cardio for half an hour a day, 4 days a week, this is 5 hours per week, and 260 hours a year, in this time a foid has watched 33 tv series jfl and by the end of this you likely still do not have a good enough body.
So does this mean you should give up, no. Never give up. By getting into the desirable range you will body mog 95% of men, this is an insane halo that only fails if you have a below normie face, just remember that this only gets you to the same level as an obese women jfl. Body is just one piece of the puzzle.
For woman it is all about fat storage which is genetic but even then a majority of women do not have death tier fat storage genes. Woman do zero exercise and can have a body that men will like.
percentage of men who have an ideal physique is less than 10% in my opinion, whereas for women this number could be as high as 65% - 80%.
Body fat percentage, for men a body becomes un-aesthetic beyond 18% though for some this number could be as low as 15%. Facial features are no longer visible and the body loses any visible muscle and veins such as in the biceps or legs.
For women up to 40% can be seen as attractive by men, evidenced by Ashley Graham, Kelly Brook, Chloe Marshall
These women are between 26% - 38% body fat in my opinion, none would be failoed by there bodies.
Here is a 16% body fat woman, of course a female body builder could have a lower body fat percentage but this is about purely untrained people, after all this is all about the difficulty to attain the body looks threshold. A decent enough amount of men like this body so as not to warrant any gymming.
Here is a women at about 44% body fat, obviously fat and not 'curvy' yet she could probably get as many men as the skinny woman above.
This body fat percentage range is approx 15% to 45%
Chart of how many women fit in this range, relative to bmi vs men. The areas between lines is the people who are ideal.
The average body fat to bmi for a woman (represented by blue) at 15% (lower limit) is 16.5 and at 45% (upper limit) is at a bmi of 36, some getting away with a bmi of 42, and even an outlier at a bmi of near 50. The vast majority of women fit into the range of ideal looking body types where it will not hinder dating success.
Now for men however this is very different, the light purple represents men who are underweight or low ideal bmi who have athletic levels of body fat, these men will have just enough muscle to have a lean ottermode physique, examples can be found in triathletes, olympic gymnasts and taekwondo athletes. However, these bodies required significant training so I should really exclude them but thought to include them as they do not require weight bearing exercise. The dark purple is bodues that are ideal in terms of both body fat to bmi and lean mass to bmi, again I made shit up here with the limits being between 8% body fat at a bmi of 19 (lower) to 15% body fat at a bmi of 26.5. These are bodies that required training unlike the women in blue who have bodies requiring no training, women outside the blue area do not have to do much to enter it, yet men need to lift weights and do cardiovascular exercise.
Realising only 20% of women have bodies that hinder dating success and 95% - 98% of men do
Types of unideal male bodies
Skinny, bmi 16 - 21, 8 - 15 body fat percentage
Skinny fat, bmi 18 - 24, 15 - 25 body fat percentage
Overweight / fat, bmi 24 - 29, 25 - 30 body fat percentage
Obese / very fat, bmi 30+, body fat percentage 30+
Semi-Ideal male physiques
Athletic physique, bmi 16 - 19.5, 8 and less body fat percentage
Alex Yee current Triathlon silver medalist
This guy is basically skinny cel and yet athleticism will help him, his body looks worse than De Niro.
Vito Dell'Aquila current Taekwondo flyweight gold medalist
This guy barely escapes the skinny category I would call him skinny athletic.
Daiki Hashimoto current olympics Gymnastics gold medalist
He is close to the ideal male category just a few more kgs of lean mass, his bmi is 20.5 so just above the cut off but including him as he is the current gold medalist and is a visual example of an impressive physique at a suprisingly low bmi. This guy is athletic body type.Actual ideal physique Gymcel body bmi 19 - 26.5, 8 - 15 body fat percentage, less than 5 percent of men have a body of this calibre.
Suppose you strength train 1 hour per day, 3 days per week (push, pull, legs), and do cardio for half an hour a day, 4 days a week, this is 5 hours per week, and 260 hours a year, in this time a foid has watched 33 tv series jfl and by the end of this you likely still do not have a good enough body.
So does this mean you should give up, no. Never give up. By getting into the desirable range you will body mog 95% of men, this is an insane halo that only fails if you have a below normie face, just remember that this only gets you to the same level as an obese women jfl. Body is just one piece of the puzzle.
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