I'll head back to my old orthodontist soon. already had a talk with him about this a while ago but back then I wasn't 100% sold on bimax. he's actually pretty based but the max fac they work with is a retarded cunt. the whole situation sucks.
you can ask them to work with a different maxfac I’m sure. As Long as they are in the Same Country they probably don’t mind.I'll head back to my old orthodontist soon. already had a talk with him about this a while ago but back then I wasn't 100% sold on bimax. he's actually pretty based but the max fac they work with is a retarded cunt. the whole situation sucks.
drop some names then. I'm a kraut.
Everybody can comfortably stay around 10-12%. Nobody is telling you to get bodybuilding competition lean you lazy fatass.Crash your hormones and brain bro
have you tried dr Kater? He is a very known maxfacs in Germany
No you can't, roid users can stay comfortable at 10% bf and they feel like shit when they go to 5-6%. Natties feel comfortable at 15% bf and start feeling like shit at 10% bf. You don't know anything about the male and human body.
I came across his name but he's probably expensive considering he's somewhat "popular". was thinking about more unknown dudes who just happen to be based. with my local max fac it's supposedly 6k but that guy is a moron. I gotta stay under 10k tbh.
10-12% is NOTORIOUSLY considered sustainable for men. Single digit is NOTORIOUSLY considered the unhealthy range.No you can't, roid users can stay comfortable at 10% bf and they feel like shit when they go to 5-6%. Natties feel comfortable at 15% bf and start feeling like shit at 10% bf. You don't know anything about the male and human body.
Also im 10% bf, keep coping with fatass
Really ? 6k? For everything? That’s weird. I got told the bimax and all that shit would cost around 14k from the ones where health care pays do they had no reason to lie. everything is included ? Splint, screws, hospital?
its because of posture.
You don't understand what sustainable means, you won't run into major health issues being 10-12% bf natty, but your libido will be way lower, higher anxiety, mildy hungry all the time, irritable etc.
he didn't go into detail but he said 6k. I'll be back there soon, so I'll find out.
Lol okay, everyone else is just lying then and being at 12% bodyfat is just uber detrimental and destroys you bro for sure for sure
The ideal range for a male to be in for a combination of steel looking facialy lean, mind healthy, big in clothes, and with a normal sex drive and sleep is 14-17% bf. Even Greg Douchette which is a notoriously fat hater said that ideal natty level for a guy to stay in is 15%, also 12% is 30% times better then 10%, once you get into the bellow 15% range, ever percentage counts. You need to be an utter subhuman to look bloated at 15%
It's genetics. I have visible abs 24/7/365 because I have a skinny lanklet body type. Someone with a bigger natural body would need to diet all the time to have the same.Crash your hormones and brain bro
I’m just going to say “lean” from here on because you pretty much keep raising the number by one when I don’t
Bullshit there were no fat people 60 years ago, look at videos of american beaches. And thats my body type too, my natural body fat without trying is 14% with slightly visible abs, and bulking is utter suicidefuel from non existing apetite, but when i tried going bellow 10% it turned the other way around, my hunger skyrocketed
oh btw did they go into detail what exactly qualifies you to get it covered by insurance?
Well im not sure why are we arguing in actuality, when it comes to actual potential looksmaxing you should go even bellow 10% bf so that every bit of bone can be shown so that you can precisely know which surgery to do. But if you look good there is no need to go to those levels just to technically look better but with a high price
No they didn’t. My bite is fine. They said if they see enough indicators for recessed jaws the surgery gets covered. Never said why and I didn’t ask.
I mean you’re unlucky if you can’t look good at even 15%, but if you’re subhuman at 15% you may as well do what you can to not be, including lowering bodyfat.
who said that? the orthodontist or max fac?
Max fac. The maxfac does all the shit regarding surgery. The ortho everything surrounding braces. Ortho told me I have to cover the braces 100% as my bite is fine. That is like 10k. My maxfacs told me the surgery however is covered because my jaws are behind.
Ima sleep now tho
alright
Being fat is not the same as being bulky/endomorphic. If you're fat, it's due to shit hormonal side profile and/or bad diet growing up.
my cuck ortho just recessed my maxilla instead of bringing my chin forward
you are severely low iq and i can't wait for ur botched bimax becuz u didn't consult me for movements
pretty sure you had sfs and coped with genio but thanks for your input brah
bimax is a brutal surgery. You might be happy with yourself by just doing a neck/jowl fat lipo + chin implant. Of course you would still have the underbite but maybe permajuttting will become second nature. This is what i am trying to work on now.
Brutal. Difference between not getting her number and getting the 3rd date JFL
