Shaykhcels gtfih

[Deleted member 19442]

I haven’t read a single salat today tbh. My non NT rotmaxxed lifestyle is going to send me to hell.

 

[Gengar]

I haven’t prayed in months. If you feel bad for missing one day: don’t.

 

[yandex99]

the good thing about islam,is that muslims all eventually go to heaven in their belief system,atleast that is the orthodox sunni belief.muhammed said you are saved by allah's grace thru belief,he had the protestant position before it was a thing in christianity.

 

[Fiqh]

Pikabro, do you deliberately miss your prayers?

 

[Fiqh]

I haven’t prayed in months. If you feel bad for missing one day: don’t.

Are you being for real?

 

[Fiqh]

the good thing about islam,is that muslims all eventually go to heaven in their belief system,atleast that is the orthodox sunni belief.muhammed said you are saved by allah's grace thru belief,he had the protestant position before it was a thing in christianity.

Sorry but that's not how it works, I'm in bed so idk if I can be asked elaborating

 

[yandex99]

Sorry but that's not how it works, I'm in bed so idk if I can be asked elaborating

in salafi aqeedah maybe not but in sunni it is

 

[yandex99]

Paradise is something of immense value; a person cannot earn it by virtue of his deeds alone, but by the Grace and Mercy of Allah. Muslim reported from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah said:



"No one of you will enter Paradise by his deeds alone." They asked, "Not even me, unless Allah covers me with His Grace and Mercy. (Muslim, 4/2170, hadith no. 2816)



The fact that some texts indicate that Paradise is the price for the deeds could be problematic, for example:



{No person knows what is kept hidden for them of joy as a reward for what they used to do.} (Qur'an 32:17)



{. such are the dwellers of Paradise. They will abide therein.} (Qur'an 7:43)



However, there is no conflict between these aayaat (verses) and the meaning of the hadith. The aayaat indicate that good deeds will be a reason, not the price, for admission to Paradise. The hadith says that good deeds are not the price for admission. Two groups were misled in this matter: the Jabariyah, who took the hadith to mean that the reward is not connected to deeds, because man has nothing to do with his deeds [i.e. everything is foreordained]; and the Qadariyah, who took the hadith to mean that Paradise was the price for good deeds, and man has the right to enter by virtue of his good deeds.



The commentator on At-Tahaawiyah said: "As for the idea that recompense results directly from one's deeds, the Jabariyah and Qadariyah are misled, and Allah, to Whom be praise, has guided Ahl as-Sunnah. The Arabic preposition ba' of negation (nafyi) is not like the ba' used for affirmation. The negation in the hadith "No one will enter Paradise by virtue of his deeds (bi 'amaalihi) is the ba' of substitution or exchange, as if good deeds were not the price of a man's admission to Paradise. This is like the (false) Mu'tazili claim that good deeds will give a person the right to enter Paradise, whereas the truth is that admission to Paradise is by the Grace and Mercy of Allah. The bi' in the ayah, {. a reward for what they used to do [Jaza'an bi maa kaanu ya'maloon].} (Qur'an 32:17) is known in Arabic grammar as the bi' of causation, i.e. because of their deeds. But Allah is the Creator of cause and effect, so everything is referred back to His Grace and Mercy." (Sharh at-Tahaawiyah, 495.) (Umar Al Ashqar, Islamic Creed Series, Volume 5: Paradise and Hell in Light of the Qur'an and Sunnah, pages 265-266)

 

[yandex99]

Imam Tabari in his commentary states:

إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّه } يَعْنِي : إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّه مِنْ قَدْر مُدَّة مَا بَيْن مَبْعَثهمْ مِنْ قُبُورهمْ إِلَى مَصِيرهمْ إِلَى جَهَنَّم , فَتِلْكَ الْمُدَّة الَّتِي اِسْتَثْنَاهَا اللَّه مِنْ خُلُودِهِمْ فِي النَّار .​

"Except what Allah wills", means except what Allah wills from the time when they resurrect from their graves until their destiny in hell. That time span is the exception that Allah made from their eternal demise in the fire. (Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, Jami' al-bayan fi ta'wil al-Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 6:128, Source)



Imam Qurtubi has it in his commentary:

قَالَ الزَّجَّاج : يَرْجِع إِلَى يَوْم الْقِيَامَة , أَيْ خَالِدِينَ فِي النَّار إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّه مِنْ مِقْدَار حَشْرهمْ مِنْ قُبُورهمْ وَمِقْدَار مُدَّتهمْ فِي الْحِسَاب.



وَقِيلَ : يَرْجِع الِاسْتِثْنَاء إِلَى النَّار , أَيْ إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّه مِنْ تَعْذِيبكُمْ بِغَيْرِ النَّار فِي بَعْض الْأَوْقَات .



وَقَالَ اِبْن عَبَّاس : الِاسْتِثْنَاء لِأَهْلِ الْإِيمَان​

Al Zajjaj said: This goes back to the Day of Judgment; they are in hell for eternity except what Allah wills from the time they resurrect from their graves and the time they spend during the Judgment Day.



And it is said that the exception applies to the fire, meaning except what Allah wills from punishing you with something else instead of fire at certain times.



And Ibn Abbaas said: The exception only applies to the people of faith. (Abu 'Abdullah Al-Qurtubi, Tasfir al Jami' li-ahkam al-Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 6:128, Source)

أَنَّ الِاسْتِثْنَاء إِنَّمَا هُوَ لِلْعُصَاةِ مِنْ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ فِي إِخْرَاجهمْ بَعْد مُدَّة مِنْ النَّار ; وَعَلَى هَذَا يَكُون قَوْله : " فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ شَقُوا " عَامًّا فِي الْكَفَرَة وَالْعُصَاة , وَيَكُون الِاسْتِثْنَاء مِنْ " خَالِدِينَ " ; قَالَهُ قَتَادَة وَالضَّحَّاك وَأَبُو سِنَان وَغَيْرهمْ​

The exception is only for those believing sinners who will be taken out of the fire after spending some time in it. Therefore, Allah's statement "Those who are wretched" is general and applies to disbelievers and sinners, and the exception is from "dwell therein"


This is said by Qatadah, Al Dahhaak, Abu Sinaan and others. (Abu 'Abdullah Al-Qurtubi, Tasfir al Jami' li-ahkam al-Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 11:107, Source)

 

[yandex99]

Like most Sunni, Shia Islam hold that all Muslims will eventually go to Jannah, and like the Ash'ari school, believe heedless and stubborn unbelievers will go to hell, while those ignorant of the truth of Islam but "truthful to their own religion", will not.

Historically, the Ash'ari school of theology was known for having an optimistic perspective on salvation for Muslims,[22] but a very pessimistic view of those who heard about Muhammad and his character, yet rejected him.[23] The Maturidi school also generally agreed that even sinners among Muslims would eventually enter paradise,[6]: 177  but its unclear whether they thought only Muslim would go to Jannah,[24]: 110  or if non-Muslims who understood and obeyed "God's universal law" would be saved also.[24]: 109  The Muʿtazila school held that free will and individual accountability was necessary for Divine justice, thus rejecting the idea of intercession (Shafa'a) by Muhammad on behalf of sinners.[6]: 178  Unlike other schools it believed Jannah and Jahannam would be created only after Judgement Day.[6]: 167–168  Like most Sunni, Shia Islam hold that all Muslims will eventually go to Jannah,[25][26] and like the Ash'ari school, believe heedless and stubborn unbelievers will go to hell, while those ignorant of the truth of Islam but "truthful to their own religion", will not.[27] Modernist scholars Muhammad Abduh and Rashid Rida rejected the notion that the People of the Book are excluded from Jannah, referring to another verse.[28]

• ˹Divine grace is˺ neither by your wishes nor those of the People of the Book! Whoever commits evil will be rewarded accordingly, and they will find no protector or helper besides Allah. But those who do good—whether male or female—and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged ˹even as much as˺ the speck on a date stone. (Q.4:123–124)

 

[Fiqh]

in salafi aqeedah maybe not but in sunni it is

Salafi aqeedah? What nonsense are you spouting?

 

[Fiqh]

] Modernist scholars Muhammad Abduh and Rashid Rida rejected the notion that the People of the Book are excluded from Jannah, referring to another verse.[28]

• ˹Divine grace is˺ neither by your wishes nor those of the People of the Book! Whoever commits evil will be rewarded accordingly, and they will find no protector or helper besides Allah. But those who do good—whether male or female—and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged ˹even as much as˺ the speck on a date stone. (Q.4:123–124)

Consider how cautious and reverent Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq (may Allah be pleased with him) was with the Qur'an, refraining from personal interpretations: "Which land would carry me and which sky would shelter me if I were to speak about the Book of Allah, the Almighty, based on my own opinion or on what I know?"

Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allah have mercy upon him) have a severe warning: "Whoever speaks about the Qur'an based on his own opinion, let him prepare his place in the Fire (Hell)." (Source)

 

[yandex99]

Consider how cautious and reverent Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq (may Allah be pleased with him) was with the Qur'an, refraining from personal interpretations: "Which land would carry me and which sky would shelter me if I were to speak about the Book of Allah, the Almighty, based on my own opinion or on what I know?"

Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allah have mercy upon him) have a severe warning: "Whoever speaks about the Qur'an based on his own opinion, let him prepare his place in the Fire (Hell)." (Source)

that has nothing to do with the fact orthodox sunnism says all muslims will eventually enter jannah based on ahadeeth that are sihah and not the quran.

muhammed said nyone that says la ilaha ilallah will enter jannah

 

[Fiqh]

Like most Sunni, Shia Islam hold that all Muslims will eventually go to Jannah, and like the Ash'ari school, believe heedless and stubborn unbelievers will go to hell, while those ignorant of the truth of Islam but "truthful to their own religion", will not.

Historically, the Ash'ari school of theology was known for having an optimistic perspective on salvation for Muslims,[22] but a very pessimistic view of those who heard about Muhammad and his character, yet rejected him.[23] The Maturidi school also generally agreed that even sinners among Muslims would eventually enter paradise,[6]: 177  but its unclear whether they thought only Muslim would go to Jannah,[24]: 110  or if non-Muslims who understood and obeyed "God's universal law" would be saved also.[24]: 109  The Muʿtazila school held that free will and individual accountability was necessary for Divine justice, thus rejecting the idea of intercession (Shafa'a) by Muhammad on behalf of sinners.[6]: 178  Unlike other schools it believed Jannah and Jahannam would be created only after Judgement Day.[6]: 167–168  Like most Sunni, Shia Islam hold that all Muslims will eventually go to Jannah,[25][26] and like the Ash'ari school, believe heedless and stubborn unbelievers will go to hell, while those ignorant of the truth of Islam but "truthful to their own religion", will not.[27] Modernist scholars Muhammad Abduh and Rashid Rida rejected the notion that the People of the Book are excluded from Jannah, referring to another verse.[28]

• ˹Divine grace is˺ neither by your wishes nor those of the People of the Book! Whoever commits evil will be rewarded accordingly, and they will find no protector or helper besides Allah. But those who do good—whether male or female—and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged ˹even as much as˺ the speck on a date stone. (Q.4:123–124)

I wouldn't take knowledge from the Ashaa'irah, nor would I quote them.

 

[yandex99]

I wouldn't take knowledge from the Ashaa'irah, nor would I quote them.

lol dude im a christian

ashariyah and maturidiyah are historical orthodox sunni islam..salafism believes differently..i said that earlier

 

[Fiqh]

that has nothing to do with the fact orthodox sunnism says all muslims will eventually enter jannah based on ahadeeth that are sihah and not the quran.

muhammed said nyone that says la ilaha ilallah will enter jannah

Among those who have issued fatwas stating that the one who does not pray is not a kaafir unless he stops praying altogether or permanently is Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him). He was asked about a person who prays sometimes and does not pray at other times. Is he a kaafir?

He replied: It seems to me that he is not a kaafir unless he does not pray at all. As for one who prays sometimes, he is not a kaafir because the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Between a man and kufr and shirk there stands his giving up prayer.” He did not say “giving up a prayer” (tarku salaatin) rather he said “giving up [the] prayer” (tark al-salaah). This implies not praying altogether. Similarly he said: “The covenant that distinguishes between us and them is prayer; whoever does not pray is a kaafir.” Based on that we say: The one who prays sometimes and does not pray sometimes is not a kaafir. End quote from Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (12/55).

You should address the point rather than being tangential.

 

[Fiqh]

lol dude im a christian

ashariyah and maturidiyah are historical orthodox sunni islam..salafism believes differently..i said that earlier

It'll be better for you to stick to your religion rather than skewing mine. Since you clearly do not have the knowledge regarding it, you are doing more harm than good.

 

[Fiqh]

Salafi Aqeedah, this is a funny joke

 

[yandex99]

Salafi Aqeedah, this is a funny joke

okay athari that belives god is a two right handed youthful curly haired boy in a red robe

 

[Fiqh]

I haven’t read a single salat today tbh. My non NT rotmaxxed lifestyle is going to send me to hell.

Al-Bukhaari (46) and Muslim (110) narrated that Talhah ibn ‘Ubaydullah said: A man came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and when he drew close to him he asked him about Islam. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Five prayers each day and night.” He said: “Do I have to do anything else?” He said: “No, not unless you do it voluntarily.” And the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “And fasting Ramadan.” He said: “Do I have to do anything else?” He said: “No, not unless you do it voluntarily.” And the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) told him about zakah. He said: “Do I have to do anything else?” He said: “No, not unless you do it voluntarily.” The man left, saying, “By Allah, I will not do any more than this or any less.” The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “He will succeed, if he is speaking the truth.”

Imam an-Nawawi said: "This is to be understood as meaning that he did not offer naafil [supererogatory] prayers and he did not omit any of the obligatory prayers. Such a person will undoubtedly be successful, even though his persisting in not offering Sunnah prayers is something blameworthy for which his testimony is to be rejected. But he is not sinning thereby, rather he will be successful and will attain salvation. And Allah knows best." End quote from Sharh Muslim, 1/121.

 

[Fiqh]

okay athari that belives god is a two right handed youthful curly haired boy in a red robe

Al-Kafirun ١٠٩:٦

لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِىَ دِينِ

"For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

 

[Deleted member 19442]

Pikabro, do you deliberately miss your prayers?

Laziness so sort of. It’s more of a recent thing

 

[SecularIslamist]

I didn't know you were Muslim. I have hardly prayed as of late and only thing I do consistently is Friday jfl.

Your intentions and faith are genuine even if your lack of practice isn't.

 

[Gengar]

Are you being for real?

Why?

 

[Fiqh]

Why?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, hence the question.

 

[Gengar]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, hence the question.

It is a serious matter, I don’t joke about these things.

 

[Fiqh]

It is a serious matter, I don’t joke about these things.

May I ask why you do not pray, given that it has been months? Is it due to laziness?

Would I be able to dm you regarding it?

 

[Gengar]

May I ask why you do not pray, given that it has been months? Is it due to laziness?

Would I be able to dm you regarding it?

I don’t mind talking openly. But it’s because I coom everyday, it’s my only way to cope with my situation. So I am in a state of janaba constantly. That’s why.

 

[Fiqh]

I don’t mind talking openly. But it’s because I coom everyday, it’s my only way to cope with my situation. So I am in a state of janaba constantly. That’s why.

Forgive me if I've come across as condescending in the past, I just want to help.

You should do ghusl and please stop masturbating, I'm sure you're aware it is haram. I've also suffered from this issue but alhamdulillah I've cured myself from it. I did everything to prevent myself from it, going to extremes but nothing helped. What finally cured me was seeking knowledge and realising the severity of committed, also seeing those that are considerably older than me lament about their porn addiction.

EasyPeasy

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Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace be and blessings on him, said, “Allah Almighty says: I am as My servant expects of Me and I am with him as he remembers Me. If he remembers Me in himself, I will remember him in Myself. If he mentions Me in a gathering, I will mention him in a greater gathering. When he draws near Me by the span of his hand, I draw near him by the length of a cubit. When he draws near Me by the length of a cubit, I draw near him by the length of a fathom. When he comes to Me walking, I come to him running.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 7405, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2675

Al-Imam Shafi'i stated that masturbation is forbidden based on the following verses from the Quran (interpretation of the meaning):

{And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts). Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors.} (Al-Muminun 23:5-7)

Here the verses are clear in forbidding all illegal sexual acts (including masturbation) except for the wives or what their right hand possesses. {And whoever seeks beyond that is the transgressor.}

Some scholars used as evidence the ayah (in meaning),

{And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His bounty.} (Al-Nur 24:33)

This verse also clearly orders whoever does not have the financial means to marry to keep himself chaste and be patient in facing temptations (including masturbation) until Allah enriches them of His bounty.

'Abdullaah ibn Mas’ud said, "We were with the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said, 'O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power.'" (Al-Bukhari 5066)

The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.

 

[Gengar]

Forgive me if I've come across as condescending in the past, I just want to help.

You should do ghusl and please stop masturbating, I'm sure you're aware it is haram. I've also suffered from this issue but alhamdulillah I've cured myself from it. I did everything to prevent myself from it, going to extremes but nothing helped. What finally cured me was seeking knowledge and realising the severity of committed, also seeing those that are considerably older than me lament about their porn addiction.

EasyPeasy

Painlessly quit pornography immediately, without willpower or any sense of deprivation or sacrifice.

easypeasymethod.org

Well, I appreciate you want to help but it often comes across as arguing for the sake of arguing. That’s why you see my responses tend to be negative.

As for masturbation being haram.. I disagree. But let’s agree to disagree on this matter. I don’t want a religious debate.

But porn is definitely haram and I should not engage in it, however, I do have an addiction. I can go without masturbation for months but I can’t go without porn for more than three weeks. It’s just not possible.

I am screwed.

 

[Fiqh]

Well, I appreciate you want to help but it often comes across as arguing for the sake of arguing. That’s why you see my responses tend to be negative.

As for masturbation being haram.. I disagree. But let’s agree to disagree on this matter. I don’t want a religious debate.

But porn is definitely haram and I should not engage in it, however, I do have an addiction. I can go without masturbation for months but I can’t go without porn for more than three weeks. It’s just not possible.

I am screwed.

I've provided the information, the most I can do now is make dua for you.

 

[Gengar]

I've provided the information, the most I can do now is make dua for you.

Thanks, much appreciated bhai.