Short face syndrome

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Short face syndrome has destroyed everything I could enjoy in my life.Every day I wake up and wish to get closer to the day im getting my double jaw surgery.Every time I check my old pictures when I was 8 I see my good jaw,no hump upturned nose and fucking go into depression.Even slaying didn’t help me at all,no female attention healed me mentally.I can’t look at my no incisor smile every day,I fucking permajut every day.I hate seeing my chin with deep mentalobial fold .What the fuck happened that I deserved to develop this skeletal deformity.I wouldn’t wish sfs deep overbite on anyone.Its the worst fucking feeling,eating with pain,teeth pain all the time,can’t bite because the bruxism is horrible .If jaw surgery didnt ever exist I would have ended it by now.I am 22

 

[Leaf298]

im in the same situation at 16, just perma jutting everyday until I get bimax/trimax and ascend

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

im in the same situation at 16, just perma jutting everyday until I get bimax/trimax and ascend

Yeah,the sfs post surgery results are insane.The lip incompetence from sfs is so weird.your nose looks fatter and bigger because your lips are behind your nose

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

im in the same situation at 16, just perma jutting everyday until I get bimax/trimax and ascend

Look at my sfs,fucked pogonion tilted upwards and fucked mentalis fold.

 

[Leaf298]

Yeah,the sfs post surgery results are insane.The lip incompetence from sfs is so weird.your nose looks fatter and bigger because your lips are behind your nose

yeah i've been told I had a big nose a few years back when I just had a fucked up lower third so it made my nose look bigger, but im planning on going with ramieri for bimax he seems to be the safest option

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

yeah i've been told I had a big nose a few years back when I just had a fucked up lower third so it made my nose look bigger, but im planning on going with ramieri for bimax he seems to be the safest option

Is he good in downgrafting,because downgrafting is the key to fix sfs

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

yeah i've been told I had a big nose a few years back when I just had a fucked up lower third so it made my nose look bigger, but im planning on going with ramieri for bimax he seems to be the safest option

The thing is we dknt have big nose,we have droopy tip from recessed lower maxilla and lower jaw which makes the nose look big

 

[layth2go]

Look at my sfs,fucked pogonion tilted upwards and fucked mentalis fold.

Son side profile isn't as important as front so just max out ur front

 

[Leaf298]

Look at my sfs,fucked pogonion tilted upwards and fucked mentalis fold.

urs isnt that bad ngl, I wouldnt worry about it too much, my case is ropeful

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Son side profile isn't as important as front so just max out ur front

You can’t max out a short lower third,my lower third is short from deep sfs class 2 overbite

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

urs isnt that bad ngl, I wouldnt worry about it too much, my case is ropeful

Still isn’t that bad,it is man.

 

[layth2go]

You can’t max out a short lower third,my lower third is short from deep sfs class 2 overbite

Son my side profile is just ass while my front is hmtn

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Son my side profile is just ass while my front is hmtn

I don’t worry about your rating son my concern is the sfs.Sfs nukes your front,makes your jaw look small while your midface is taller and bigger.Im getting djs with downgrafting either way

 

[Leaf298]

Is he good in downgrafting,because downgrafting is the key to fix sfs

yeah hes really good in cases like sfs, this is a good result I saw from him, and it only took less then a week to recover, and he has almost no botches from what i've seen. From surgeons like raffaini they dont accept ethnics, and hes much more expensive so ramieri is good imo

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

yeah hes really good in cases like sfs, this is a good result I saw from him, and it only took less then a week to recover, and he has almost no botches from what i've seen. From surgeons like raffaini they dont accept ethnics, and hes much more expensive so ramieri is good imo
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I live in warsaw.how safe it is to rug it under free nfz insurance surgery?

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

yeah hes really good in cases like sfs, this is a good result I saw from him, and it only took less then a week to recover, and he has almost no botches from what i've seen. From surgeons like raffaini they dont accept ethnics, and hes much more expensive so ramieri is good imo
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Fym don’t accept ethnics lmao,do im not ginna be able to consult raffaini because im from Azerbaijan?

 

[Leaf298]

I live in warsaw.how safe it is to rug it under free nfz insurance surgery?

no clue tbh

 

[Leaf298]

Fym don’t accept ethnics lmao,do im not ginna be able to consult raffaini because im from Azerbaijan?

yeah through all of his insta pics he never accepted an ethnic once, and I kept looking for at least 1 and when I did find one they had a horror story

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

yeah through all of his insta pics he never accepted an ethnic once, and I kept looking for at least 1 and when I did find one they had a horror story

Imagine being a ceritified surgeon and still being a low iq bigot

 

[Leaf298]

Imagine being a ceritified surgeon and still being a low iq bigot

ikr, he can be very arrogant, and he prefers operating on whites/foids and hes very stubborn also, but from what i've heard ramieri is a very chill guy and has amazing results and is cheaper

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

ikr, he can be very arrogant, and he prefers operating on whites/females and hes very stubborn also, but from what i've heard ramieri is a very chill guy and has amazing results and is cheaper

There is a cosmetic jaw surgeon in my country and city Baku she knows my mom close maybe I should do It with her.

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

ikr, he can be very arrogant, and he prefers operating on whites/foids and hes very stubborn also, but from what i've heard ramieri is a very chill guy and has amazing results and is cheaper

I have an off center bite and 38-39mm intermolar width.the surgeon needs to fix my jaw deviation too

 

[Leaf298]

There is a cosmetic jaw surgeon in my country and city Baku she knows my mom close maybe I should do It with her.

that would be goated, and if its in ur country you can just fraud sleep apnea or some random issue and it could get covered

 

[carti lover]

Short face syndrome has destroyed everything I could enjoy in my life.Every day I wake up and wish to get closer to the day im getting my double jaw surgery.Every time I check my old pictures when I was 8 I see my good jaw,no hump upturned nose and fucking go into depression.Even slaying didn’t help me at all,no female attention healed me mentally.I can’t look at my no incisor smile every day,I fucking permajut every day.I hate seeing my chin with deep mentalobial fold .What the fuck happened that I deserved to develop this skeletal deformity.I wouldn’t wish sfs deep overbite on anyone.Its the worst fucking feeling,eating with pain,teeth pain all the time,can’t bite because the bruxism is horrible .If jaw surgery didnt ever exist I would have ended it by now.I am 22

imo this is better then longface syndrome still very unfortunate tho

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

that would be goated, and if its in ur country you can just fraud sleep apnea or some random issue and it could get covered

I just need a surgeon who is not a dumb retard and knows what she/he is doing

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

imo this is better then longface syndrome still very unfortunate tho

Yeah I know basically downgrafting + rotation fixes it

 

[carti lover]

Yeah I know basically downgrafting + rotation fixes it

why dont you get marpe instead of such a invasive surgery


whats ur tfwhr, fwhr and mfr

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

why dont you get marpe instead of such a invasive surgery


whats ur tfwhr, fwhr and mfr

Dude marpe ain’t saving my bite ,I have 100% deep no incisor show overbite.

 

[Leaf298]

imo this is better then longface syndrome still very unfortunate tho

yeah with lfs you look subhuman but with sfs you can just jutt downwards and you look normal and you can always get bimax/trimax later on

 

[carti lover]

Dude marpe ain’t saving my bite ,I have 100% deep no incisor show overbite.

your jaws deviated to right? is it a skeletal cant and do you have a crossbite

 

[Leaf298]

I just need a surgeon who is not a dumb retard and knows what she/he is doing

yeah im planning to consult with the surgeon next year and get it 2 years later on, so im taking a gap year after highschool to get the surgery if all goes well

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

why dont you get marpe instead of such a invasive surgery


whats ur tfwhr, fwhr and mfr

1.35 with overbite closed is tfwhr .I have short lower maxilla and lower third.Check my side in the replies

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

your jaws deviated to right? is it a skeletal cant and do you have a crossbite

No I have a deep sfs overbite no crossbite or anything

 

[carti lover]

yeah with lfs you look subhuman but with sfs you can just jutt downwards and you look normal and you can always get bimax/trimax later on

thing is lfs can look good in rare cases but 9.9/10 it looks ass



its either the 0.01% tall skull tall ramus strong jaw "horse" faced people who still mog

Or
the 9.99% short ramus horrid downgrown maxilla and downgrown mandible

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

your jaws deviated to right? is it a skeletal cant and do you have a crossbite

Its a skeletal cant likely

 

[Leaf298]

I just need a surgeon who is not a dumb retard and knows what she/he is doing

when do you think ur gonna get ur surgery done?

 

[carti lover]

Its a skeletal cant likely

have u had xrays done?

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

thing is lfs can look good in rare cases but 9.9/10 it looks ass



its either the 0.01% tall skull tall ramus strong jaw "horse" faced people who still mog

Or
the 9.99% short ramus horrid downgrown maxilla and downgrown mandible

I have no downgrowth.I genuinely need some downgrowth to have tall lower third and lower maxilla.I am kinda glad i have sfs but not lfs

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

when do you think ur gonna get ur surgery done?

After scans + planning + decompensation is completed

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

have u had xrays done?

Im doing it soon I will post it on .org after

 

[carti lover]

I have no downgrowth.I genuinely need some downgrowth to have tall lower third and lower maxilla.I am kinda glad i have sfs but not lfs

whats ur gonial angle i cant find the side profile reply do yk ur ramus length to?

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

whats ur gonial angle i cant find the side profile reply do yk ur ramus length to?

118.5 degree gonial with bite closed

 

[carti lover]

118.5 degree gonial with bite closed

better then being downgrown

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

better then being downgrown

You have lfs?

 

[Leaf298]

thing is lfs can look good in rare cases but 9.9/10 it looks ass



its either the 0.01% tall skull tall ramus strong jaw "horse" faced people who still mog

Or
the 9.99% short ramus horrid downgrown maxilla and downgrown mandible

yeah a lot of people I noticed that have lfs also are a birdcel which makes them look subhuman. Pretty sure lfs is much more common to sfs also

 

[carti lover]

You have lfs?

nah i dont i just had a ever so slightly downgrown jaw because of my tongue tie

my philtrum fucks up my mfr tho its like 1:1.06 i think

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

nah i dont i just had a ever so slightly downgrown jaw because of my tongue tie

my philtrum fucks up my mfr tho its like 1:1.06 i think

I have no philtrum issue

 

[Grievous]

reminds me of something

@Node

 

[carti lover]

I have no philtrum issue

lucky id imagine a long philtrum would look kinda odd with sfs

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Show front side is cope