should cutting be done as a teenager? (15)

[leorty space]

I just turned 15 recently and I have been cutting for a decent amount of time (2-3 months) and im 5'8-5'9 (my dad is 6'0/6'1 and my mom is around 5'5-5'6), I try to include as much nutritional food as I possibly can and i am supplementing magnesium bisglycinate, ashwagandha and a multivitamin with good doses of d3+k2 and zinc. should i continue cutting till my abs are visible or will this fuck over my growth?
the heightpill is very much real and i genuinely dont want to end up as a shortcel
i believe im skinny fat as well, so i just look like shit shirtless and im very self conscious about it (i have considered taking anavar but still dont think its a good option)
what would you guys recommend?
should i keep cutting and higher the possibility of ending up as shortcel (which may not be 100% true, losing the excess bf will lower aromatization in turn lowering my estrogen which delays closure of growth plates) or just fuck all?
ive also looked into AIs but i dont think its a good option, shit literally makes u retarded and lower ur iq
i do have gyno as well so my chest area looks like shit

thank you for reading

 

[Corpuscula]

I just turned 15 recently and I have been cutting for a decent amount of time (2-3 months) and im 5'8-5'9 (my dad is 6'0/6'1 and my mom is around 5'5-5'6), I try to include as much nutritional food as I possibly can and i am supplementing magnesium bisglycinate, ashwagandha and a multivitamin with good doses of d3+k2 and zinc. should i continue cutting till my abs are visible or will this fuck over my growth?
the heightpill is very much real and i genuinely dont want to end up as a shortcel
i believe im skinny fat as well, so i just look like shit shirtless and im very self conscious about it (i have considered taking anavar but still dont think its a good option)
what would you guys recommend?
should i keep cutting and higher the possibility of ending up as shortcel (which may not be 100% true, losing the excess bf will lower aromatization in turn lowering my estrogen which delays closure of growth plates) or just fuck all?
ive also looked into AIs but i dont think its a good option, shit literally makes u retarded and lower ur iq
i do have gyno as well so my chest area looks like shit

thank you for reading

nigga just do a brutal fast cut. stop with the slow gradual cut. just starvemaxx

 

[leorty space]

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[leorty space]

nigga just do a brutal fast cut. stop with the slow gradual cut. just starvemaxx

ive considered this plenty of times but wont that fuck over your muscle mass? ive been going to the gym for a little over a year and built a decent frame
should i deadass just starve

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

ive considered this plenty of times but wont that fuck over your muscle mass? ive been going to the gym for a little over a year and built a decent frame
should i deadass just starve

It wont work, your metabolism will beocome way more slow in response and you wont lose weight the best thing to do is to just not cut and debloat

 

[Corpuscula]

ive considered this plenty of times but wont that fuck over your muscle mass? ive been going to the gym for a little over a year and built a decent frame
should i deadass just starve

just starve bro why tf would u build muscle if ur not lean already? plus you'll easily gain back the muscle you gained from the gym after you starve. being lean is better than being bulky

 

[gangiewangie]

I just turned 15 recently and I have been cutting for a decent amount of time (2-3 months) and im 5'8-5'9 (my dad is 6'0/6'1 and my mom is around 5'5-5'6), I try to include as much nutritional food as I possibly can and i am supplementing magnesium bisglycinate, ashwagandha and a multivitamin with good doses of d3+k2 and zinc. should i continue cutting till my abs are visible or will this fuck over my growth?
the heightpill is very much real and i genuinely dont want to end up as a shortcel
i believe im skinny fat as well, so i just look like shit shirtless and im very self conscious about it (i have considered taking anavar but still dont think its a good option)
what would you guys recommend?
should i keep cutting and higher the possibility of ending up as shortcel (which may not be 100% true, losing the excess bf will lower aromatization in turn lowering my estrogen which delays closure of growth plates) or just fuck all?
ive also looked into AIs but i dont think its a good option, shit literally makes u retarded and lower ur iq
i do have gyno as well so my chest area looks like shit

thank you for reading

stop cutting as as teen broski, if you want to lose weight just exercise more. id suggest sprinting/weightlifting

 

[sub5toPSL]

Yes you will lose muscle bro just balance it out with intense workouts and maybe only eat lean protein that’s it

ive considered this plenty of times but wont that fuck over your muscle mass? ive been going to the gym for a little over a year and built a decent frame
should i deadass just starve

 

[leorty space]

It wont work, your metabolism will beocome way more slow in response and you wont lose weight the best thing to do is to just not cut and debloat

my face isnt bloated (due to sodium) its just excess fat on my face, ive done 80 mg of furosemide and noticed 0 changes in terms of facial definition. im not too worried about my looks, ive definitely ascended cuz ive been gymcelling for a while
i MAINLY want to cut because i want to be lean and acc see my abs especially for the upcoming summer season i just wanna be confident when i take my shirt off at the beach lolz

 

[Corpuscula]

ive considered this plenty of times but wont that fuck over your muscle mass? ive been going to the gym for a little over a year and built a decent frame
should i deadass just starve

get T3 and T4

 

[leorty space]

stop cutting as as teen broski, if you want to lose weight just exercise more. id suggest sprinting/weightlifting

i do fullbody every other day at the gym, i have a treadmill at home so ive also been doing fasted cardio. main concern for me is not having promiment abs and ive just really wanted to see my abs for the first time (and also try to slim down my face, not ideal as of rn)

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

my face isnt bloated (due to sodium) its just excess fat on my face, ive done 80 mg of furosemide and noticed 0 changes in terms of facial definition. im not too worried about my looks, ive definitely ascended cuz ive been gymcelling for a while
i MAINLY want to cut because i want to be lean and acc see my abs especially for the upcoming summer season i just wanna be confident when i take my shirt off at the beach lolz

Dont do it
Girls dont care about body

 

[leorty space]

get T3 and T4

any good sources?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

dude, your hormones are fucked because of diet, youre not fat probably

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

nigga realistically as long as you don't starve or do a really long term cut you'll get to at least 5'11. Before you even plan your cut what are your eating and exercise habits? How many meals a day do you eat? Do you snack/eat sweets or chocolate in between meals? Do you do any sports or work out?

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

any good sources?

you don't need supplements lol if you try take the "easy way" for losing fat you'll fuck yourself up in some way

 

[Corpuscula]

any good sources?

buydeus

 

[leorty space]

dude, your hormones are fucked because of diet, youre not fat probably

i think this is true, morning wood is a rare occurence for me which means my test levels are beyond fucked
ive had high cortisol for a while so ive invested in ashwagandha which hopefully helps me out
do u have any suggestions? no matter how healthy i eat i dont think it has a great effect on my T

 

[Corpuscula]

you don't need supplements lol if you try take the "easy way" for losing fat you'll fuck yourself up in some way

its not a supplement

 

[leorty space]

nigga realistically as long as you don't starve or do a really long term cut you'll get to at least 5'11. Before you even plan your cut what are your eating and exercise habits? How many meals a day do you eat? Do you snack/eat sweets or chocolate in between meals? Do you do any sports or work out?

i dont even eat that much at all
i do workout, fullbody every other day in the gym
i snack like every 2-3 days, try my best to stay away from processed sugars though so mainly just salty snacks or popcorn
i eat like 3-4 meals a day maximum
today for example i ate 2 bananas with honey, a sandwich with low-salt cheese + ground turkey and rice with chicken

 

[PrimalPlasty]

i think this is true, morning wood is a rare occurence for me which means my test levels are beyond fucked
ive had high cortisol for a while so ive invested in ashwagandha which hopefully helps me out
do u have any suggestions? no matter how healthy i eat i dont think it has a great effect on my T

what is healthy for you? i think there is an issue on the behalf of what you consider healthy, when i was your age (1 year ago jfl), i ate alot of eggs, cholesterol from fatty meats, raw milk, cholesterol builds testosterone in the body, many carbohydrates increase cortisol/stress via inflammation, start eating only eggs meat butter and raw milk, and youll see a drastic change man

 

[leorty space]

buydeus

will consider, thank you for your input

 

[PrimalPlasty]

i dont even eat that much at all
i do workout, fullbody every other day in the gym
i snack like every 2-3 days, try my best to stay away from processed sugars though so mainly just salty snacks or popcorn
i eat like 3-4 meals a day maximum
today for example i ate 2 bananas with honey, a sandwich with low-salt cheese + ground turkey and rice with chicken

see thats not healthy man, your eating a high carb diet/low fat, you need to eat more fat, cholesterol, meat etc.

 

[leorty space]

what is healthy for you? i think there is an issue on the behalf of what you consider healthy, when i was your age (1 year ago jfl), i ate alot of eggs, cholesterol from fatty meats, raw milk, cholesterol builds testosterone in the body, many carbohydrates increase cortisol/stress via inflammation, start eating only eggs meat butter and raw milk, and youll see a drastic change man

eggs, fruits, dairy products
me personally i think the whole raw milk thing is retarded i do drink pasteurized milk but from a local farmer
ive had insulin resistance and i may possibly still have it, ill try to cut down on carbs then
thank you

 

[Corpuscula]

i dont even eat that much at all
i do workout, fullbody every other day in the gym
i snack like every 2-3 days, try my best to stay away from processed sugars though so mainly just salty snacks or popcorn
i eat like 3-4 meals a day maximum
today for example i ate 2 bananas with honey, a sandwich with low-salt cheese + ground turkey and rice with chicken

most people when they eat things like rice they take WAY too much of it thinking thats an appropriate amount.. be careful bro rice is more caloric than you think it is. also 2 bananas is a bit too much i cant lie thats like 200 calories wasted, 1 wouldve been enough for the day just saying

 

[leorty space]

see thats not healthy man, your eating a high carb diet/low fat, you need to eat more fat, cholesterol, meat etc.

could you suggest meal ideas then

 

[PrimalPlasty]

eggs, fruits, dairy products
me personally i think the whole raw milk thing is retarded i do drink pasteurized milk but from a local farmer
ive had insulin resistance and i may possibly still have it, ill try to cut down on carbs then
thank you

how come you think raw milk is retarded? its the best thing you want to consume if you wanna grow taller also, all enzymes, vitamins and growth hormones are intact.

 

[leorty space]

most people when they eat things like rice they take WAY too much of it thinking thats an appropriate amount.. be careful bro rice is more caloric than you think it is. also 2 bananas is a bit too much i cant lie thats like 200 calories wasted, 1 wouldve been enough for the day just saying

ate 2 because they were both small asf
and yes i do get what you mean but lately ive literally only been eating 3-4 spoonfuls of rice a day but yes i do understand where you're coming from and will try to cut down on carbs
thank you once again

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

i dont even eat that much at all
i do workout, fullbody every other day in the gym
i snack like every 2-3 days, try my best to stay away from processed sugars though so mainly just salty snacks or popcorn
i eat like 3-4 meals a day maximum
today for example i ate 2 bananas with honey, a sandwich with low-salt cheese + ground turkey and rice with chicken

alr just add a cardio routine and cut out all snacking completely as 3 meals a day is absolutely enough. It's not the easy option (T3 or T4) or the fastest option (starving yourself), but it's actually sensible. You're gonna need discipline and patience but it'll be worth it in the long run especially since you go gym

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

how come you think raw milk is retarded? its the best thing you want to consume if you wanna grow taller also, all enzymes, vitamins and growth hormones are intact.

promoting raw milk is bs

 

[leorty space]

how come you think raw milk is retarded? its the best thing you want to consume if you wanna grow taller also, all enzymes, vitamins and growth hormones are intact.

unclean, unfiltered, may have parasites, can give u salmonella/ecoli
overall just not safe imo bro

 

[PrimalPlasty]

could you suggest meal ideas then

breakfast - 6 - 12 eggs, maybe a steak, like steak and eggs basically for breakfast everything cooked in butter always
lunch - snack banana with honey and milk
dinner - fatty steak, eggs, blueberries, and yoghurt

 

[PrimalPlasty]

unclean, unfiltered, may have parasites, can give u salmonella/ecoli
overall just not safe imo bro

everything you just stated is brainwash and has been debunked since the 90's brother. watch this video:

 

[leorty space]

alr just add a cardio routine and cut out all snacking completely as 3 meals a day is absolutely enough. It's not the easy option (T3 or T4) or the fastest option (starving yourself), but it's actually sensible. You're gonna need discipline and patience but it'll be worth it in the long run especially since you go gym

ive been disciplined bro its just mainly the fact that i do truly think that my hormones are fucked, ive also been in a motorcycle accident recently so my cortisol was sky-high
and to top it all off my parents think im a schizo for wanting to get my test levels tested
my dad has ED and thinks that its okay if test levels are low JFL

 

[PrimalPlasty]

promoting raw milk is bs

promoting dead boiled food cuz your jew goverment wants so is bs

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

ive been disciplined bro its just mainly the fact that i do truly think that my hormones are fucked, ive also been in a motorcycle accident recently so my cortisol was sky-high
and to top it all off my parents think im a schizo for wanting to get my test levels tested
my dad has ED and thinks that its okay if test levels are low JFL

Hormones don't stop a caloric deficit tho

 

[leorty space]

breakfast - 6 - 12 eggs, maybe a steak, like steak and eggs basically for breakfast everything cooked in butter always
lunch - snack banana with honey and milk
dinner - fatty steak, eggs, blueberries, and yoghurt

6-12 eggs is pushing it bro im sorry but like 4 max
overall seems nice
ive been eating this blueberry/strawberry flavored greek yoghurt and honestly i think its loaded with added sugar so may need to recheck
thank you once again twin, ill try getting my hands on steak as it isnt as popular over here in my region

 

[PrimalPlasty]

6-12 eggs is pushing it bro im sorry but like 4 max
overall seems nice
ive been eating this blueberry/strawberry flavored greek yoghurt and honestly i think its loaded with added sugar so may need to recheck
thank you once again twin, ill try getting my hands on steak as it isnt as popular over here in my region

where do you live? how good quality is the food overall, can you get more local stuff instead of imported shit? and what color do the yolks of the egg have?

Overall eating flavored greek yoghurt or plain with fruits doesent make a huge difference, cane sugar is just 50%/50% Sucrose and Fructose

 

[leorty space]

Hormones don't stop a caloric deficit tho

yea theres no denying that but hormones definitely do play a role in fat loss, ive had multiple friends document over my journey and i even showed them my meals and they were like wtf how are u not losing any fat
that has genuinely pissed me off and to add onto that my first ever fat loss journey was when i was like 12-13 and no it didnt affect my height because i remember vividly my height skyrocketed from 165 cm to 172 cm, i lost a decent amount of fat but i still wasnt lean enough even though my weight dropped to LITERALLY 52 kg

 

[leorty space]

where do you live? how good quality is the food overall, can you get more local stuff instead of imported shit? and what color do the yolks of the egg have?

Overall eating flavored greek yoghurt or plain with fruits doesent make a huge difference, cane sugar is just 50%/50% Sucrose and Fructose

dont feel comfortable sharing but most of the stuff i get is local anyway. the yolks are yellow-red and from a trusted, legit local farmer
overall food quality is a meh, steaks are very very niche over here for some reason and when they get cooked they literally get boiled

 

[PrimalPlasty]

yea theres no denying that but hormones definitely do play a role in fat loss, ive had multiple friends document over my journey and i even showed them my meals and they were like wtf how are u not losing any fat
that has genuinely pissed me off and to add onto that my first ever fat loss journey was when i was like 12-13 and no it didnt affect my height because i remember vividly my height skyrocketed from 165 cm to 172 cm, i lost a decent amount of fat but i still wasnt lean enough even though my weight dropped to LITERALLY 52 kg

hormones play a huge role, my Test is high and im supplementing T3/T4 while on aromatse inhibtors, i eat 3000 calories a day and lose weight.

 

[Baldingman1998]

If you want to be short and weak and underdeveloped sure

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

i lost a decent amount of fat but i still wasnt lean enough even though my weight dropped to LITERALLY 52 kg

then you were just bloated after losing fat not still fat lmao

 

[PrimalPlasty]

dont feel comfortable sharing but most of the stuff i get is local anyway. the yolks are yellow-red and from a trusted, legit local farmer
overall food quality is a meh, steaks are very very niche over here for some reason and when they get cooked they literally get boiled

if organs are cheaper just eat liver 2x - 3x a week and you wont even need much meat tbh

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

hormones play a huge role, my Test is high and im supplementing T3/T4 while on aromatse inhibtors, i eat 3000 calories a day and lose weight.

how much misinfo are you gonna spread jfl

 

[leorty space]

if organs are cheaper just eat liver 2x - 3x a week and you wont even need much meat tbh

liver is VERY popular over here, good suggestion, i heavily dislike the taste but i think ill try and get over it

 

[PrimalPlasty]

how much misinfo are you gonna spread jfl

lol kys, i calorie mog you while you have to eat 1200 calories to maintain, fagott lol, believe the calorie lie when its all about thyroid and hormones.

 

[PrimalPlasty]

liver is VERY popular over here, good suggestion, i heavily dislike the taste but i think ill try and get over it

if you really dislike the taste, just try cutting it into small pieces and wash it down with some water like a supplement

 

[leorty space]

if you really dislike the taste, just try cutting it into small pieces and wash it down with some water like a supplement

will do
but overall would you recommend acc hopping on T3, T4 and AIs?
i have signs of high estrogen (not tested, just visually) such as gyno, low libido, etc
i deadass barely wake up with morning wood, like maybe once a week

gotta pray my parents stop thinking im a schizo and acc let me get my blood tested

 

[UnevenNeckshi]

but overall would you recommend acc hopping on T3, T4 and AIs?

you're asking the person claiming raw milk is healthy and they eat 3k calories without gaining fat?