Should I be using ALL of these with hgh to prevent side effects?

[wannabepinner]

I was looking at these to pair w my hgh:
berberine, metformin, reta, Sitagliptin, PEG-MGF (Ik this one wont help w those side effects just good to pair w hgh right?)
Idk is this to many things? I need to pin most of this stuff daily so I think its a bit much no?
Dw you will be getting marked as a solution

 

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probably

 

[1tsover]

I was looking at these to pair w my hgh:
berberine, metformin, reta, Sitagliptin, PEG-MGF (Ik this one wont help w those side effects just good to pair w hgh right?)
Idk is this to many things? I need to pin most of this stuff daily so I think its a bit much no?
Dw you will be getting marked as a solution

bro you dont really need all that just to minimize the side effects of hgh
check your bloodwork every 3 weeks and you should notice when anythings off before its too late. the things you listed arent bad but its just a bit overkill if you get what i mean. if u dont have to worry about money get all that stuff because its all going to help but in reality the difference is so little that it does not really matter.

 

[wannabepinner]

check your bloodwork every 3 weeks and you should notice when anythings off before its too late. the things you listed arent bad but its just a bit overkill if you get what i mean. if u dont have to worry about money get all that stuff because its all going to help but in reality the difference is so little that it does not really matter.

Ik but I feel like I should take some no? Which ones do you recommend? Also the problem w getting bloodwork is that I dont have a car or anything, and because im 16 im pretty sure my parents need to sign for me getting my bloodwork. I dont want them knowing about it, so you think I could get my grandma or someone like that to do it? Or I could just get a blood glucose monitor right? Rn I am planning on using accutane, hgh, and cerebrolysin. What monitoring measures you think I should take?

 

[bycnydnit]

Ik but I feel like I should take some no? Which ones do you recommend? Also the problem w getting bloodwork is that I dont have a car or anything, and because im 16 im pretty sure my parents need to sign for me getting my bloodwork. I dont want them knowing about it, so you think I could get my grandma or someone like that to do it? Or I could just get a blood glucose monitor right? Rn I am planning on using accutane, hgh, and cerebrolysin. What monitoring measures you think I should take?

Every 3 weeks is a little overkill imo, every 12 weeks is enough, definitely get a blood glucose monitor, Reta can and will help minigate the effects hgh has on ur blood glucose, Reta or triz will both work, it dosent hurt to take those supplements but they aren’t necessary, definitely get blood work done and keep an eye on your igf1, HbA1c,
Lipid panel, CMP (kidney/liver), Thyroid (TSH, Free T4)

 

[wannabepinner]

Every 3 weeks is a little overkill imo, every 12 weeks is enough, definitely get a blood glucose monitor, Reta can and will help minigate the effects hgh has on ur blood glucose, Reta or triz will both work, it dosent hurt to take those supplements but they aren’t necessary, definitely get blood work done and keep an eye on your igf1, HbA1c,
Lipid panel, CMP (kidney/liver), Thyroid (TSH, Free T4)

how on earth should I get my bloodwork done? I have been stressing about this, and now I think my parents may catch on. They are both doctors, and when I grow up I want to be one to. I was asking him about the endocrine system, and then we eventually started talking about steroids. He then asked why I was talking to him about this and it got me a bit nervous. It sucks so FUCKING hard cause one of my parents (idk which) is literally taking GLP-1 and my brother has been taking proscribed HGH. How do you think I can get my bloodwork done then, cause in nj I think you have to have a parent sign to get bloodwork done.

 

[bycnydnit]

I’m 17 and recently started taking hgh (2 weeks ago) here in California you also need a parent or guardian to sign for you, I was debating of getting those shitty at home blood test kits to avoid telling my parents I eventually said fuck it and just told them, surprisingly they were ok with it as long i was doing everything I needed to keep the risk low, ik not everyone’s parents are as chill with shit like this but honestly you know ur parents best and unless you have a guardian who is willing to sign it for you, you’re kind of fucked unless you come clean to your parents

 

[wannabepinner]

I’m 17 and recently started taking hgh (2 weeks ago) here in California you also need a parent or guardian to sign for you, I was debating of getting those shitty at home blood test kits to avoid telling my parents I eventually said fuck it and just told them, surprisingly they were ok with it as long i was doing everything I needed to keep the risk low, ik not everyone’s parents are as chill with shit like this but honestly you know ur parents best and unless you have a guardian who is willing to sign it for you, you’re kind of fucked unless you come clean to your parents

I am almost positive that my parents wont let me do this. I dont know tho. They are doctors so they will prob be worried about my health, and I think I might use the fact that they are using glp-1s and my brother uses hgh. Should I tell them before or after I get the things?

 

[TheOsei]

I was looking at these to pair w my hgh:
berberine, metformin, reta, Sitagliptin, PEG-MGF (Ik this one wont help w those side effects just good to pair w hgh right?)
Idk is this to many things? I need to pin most of this stuff daily so I think its a bit much no?
Dw you will be getting mark

just wear wrists splints for the carpal tunnel
metformin for insulin (i personally prefer motsc, it's weaker for high insulin though but has a lot other benefits)
25mg eplerenone daily for bloat (dont supplement potassium on it though)
Peg-mgf is not bad but it lowkey only grows muscle. Do bpc157 if you had to choose between them.
get some infigratinib and vosoritide if you can
and ky19382
don't forget daily 1.25mg Letrozole (no you wont die as long as you are on test and cerebrolysin/p21, and bpc i suggested earlier)

 

[wannabepinner]

just wear wrists splints for the carpal tunnel
metformin for insulin (i personally prefer motsc, it's weaker for high insulin though but has a lot other benefits)
25mg eplerenone daily for bloat (dont supplement potassium on it though)
Peg-mgf is not bad but it lowkey only grows muscle. Do bpc157 if you had to choose between them.
get some infigratinib and vosoritide if you can
and ky19382 from ambeed.com
don't forget daily 1.25mg Letrozole (no you wont die as long as you are on test and cerebrolysin/p21, and bpc i suggested earlier)

What are the benefits of motsc that could make it better than motsc? What does Letrozole do? I am not trying to hop on test, I want to wait until I am out of puberty for it. I dont want to mess up my estrogen by taking an ai

 

[wannabepinner]

just wear wrists splints for the carpal tunnel
metformin for insulin (i personally prefer motsc, it's weaker for high insulin though but has a lot other benefits)
25mg eplerenone daily for bloat (dont supplement potassium on it though)
Peg-mgf is not bad but it lowkey only grows muscle. Do bpc157 if you had to choose between them.
get some infigratinib and vosoritide if you can
and ky19382
don't forget daily 1.25mg Letrozole (no you wont die as long as you are on test and cerebrolysin/p21, and bpc i suggested earlier)

also holy shit thx for the goat response

 

[TheOsei]

What are the benefits of motsc that could make it better than motsc? What does Letrozole do? I am not trying to hop on test, I want to wait until I am out of puberty for it. I dont want to mess up my estrogen by taking an ai

letrozole basically makes your bones age a lot slower (short kids on 2.5mg daily with no disease had their bone age literally slow by 50%+ per year) so you grow much longer.
obviously don't do 2.5 it'll fell like hell do like 0.625mg daily (quarter tab) but it's still very heavy estrogen suppression so expect

to become a little dumber (take cerebrolysin, could theoretically help some.)
lose hella libido and mood tanked (testosterone will help)
joints will hurt (not so bad if on Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium, do research on it tho.)
bone minerilization actually gets a little worse (testosterone cures tho)
these are the main ones.

use gemini for research way better than jewgpt and wont say no.

also mots-c is basically a naturally occuring thing in your cells, it's a peptide.
taking it lowers your insulin, not traditionally though, it sends excess insulin to your muscles to burn. so ur blood sugar lowers and u get more shredded. it also activates MSCs and tgf-beta which basically a bonus for growth. also makes your dna regen faster and protects your organs under stress.

 

[TheOsei]

I am not trying to hop on test, I want to wait until I am out of puberty for it. I dont want to mess up my estrogen by taking an ai

if your doing hgh and letro i recommend 200 test 50 proviron tbh helps your bones handle the growth and your mood a lot better.
200 test will put you like 300ng/dl above natty so not that dangerous at this dose, but proviron I think is great since it increases your active T a lot and u get more DHT which is good for your dih and jaw, makes it feel like 350mg test without much extra sides.

for the sides on this
250iu HCG three times a week (for infertility)
take nattokinase for RBCs
BrilloEZ (it's a pill with 180bempedoic acid and 10mg ezetimibe) to manage cholestrol
oh and some tart cherry extract so your uric acid doesnt raise from the BrilloEZ
optional: 20-40mg daily telmisartan (if you have high blood pressure on this for some reason)
should probably do 5% topical ru-58841 too if you see any balding

 

[wannabepinner]

makes your bones age a lot slower

I am 16 so this is like a must right?

to become a little dumber

Like how much more dumb? I was going to use cerebrolysin like you said, and you think I should now get some infranasal semax as well for pre study sessions?

joints will hurt

Would bpc help w that?

use gemini for research way better than jewgpt and wont say no.

I use perplexity. I really like it cause it gives all the sources, so I just read the pubmed articles for my self after it summarizes it for me
Also mots-c sounds good. You think if I am using it and see signs of insulin resistence, hop off hgh then wait until the metformin?

 

[TheOsei]

I am 16 so this is like a must right?

Like how much more dumb? I was going to use cerebrolysin like you said, and you think I should now get some infranasal semax as well for pre study sessions?

Would bpc help w that?

I use perplexity. I really like it cause it gives all the sources, so I just read the pubmed articles for my self after it summarizes it for me
Also mots-c sounds good. You think if I am using it and see signs of insulin resistence, hop off hgh then wait until the metformin?

if motsc isn't enough for insulin just stack berberine on top should be good.
perplexity is pretty good

yeah bpc help with joint but not as powerful as injectable pentosan polysulfate it's literally internal lube, used mainly for big horses to make them faster in horses races but it's also used off-label for us for osteoarthritis

 

[wannabepinner]

if motsc isn't enough for insulin just stack berberine on top should be good.
perplexity is pretty good

yeah bpc help with joint but not as powerful as injectable pentosan polysulfate it's literally internal lube, used mainly for big horses to make them faster in horses races but it's also used off-label for us for osteoarthritis

so tell me if you think this is good
hgh
cerebrolysin+infranasal semax
mots-c
nattokinase+brilloEZ+tart cherry extract
test
letrozole
BPC (maybe Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium ill do some research)
ru-58841 (would minoxidil work as well?)
eplerenone (is it fine if I get my daily potassium from foods tho? Getting 4000)
Tell me if this is good. Also if you could help w the pinning schedule and dose that would be AMAZING

 

[TheOsei]

so tell me if you think this is good
hgh
cerebrolysin+infranasal semax
mots-c
nattokinase+brilloEZ+tart cherry extract
test
letrozole
BPC (maybe Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium ill do some research)
ru-58841 (would minoxidil work as well?)
eplerenone (is it fine if I get my daily potassium from foods tho? Getting 4000)
Tell me if this is good. Also if you could help w the pinning schedule and dose that would be AMAZING

nah minox doesn't do much for balding but you can have it if you want

to be honest 4000mg is too much on eplrenone it already flushes out the sodium and water for you and holds potassium, don't gotta worry about debloating so eat less potassium and increase salt if you have low blood pressure.

don't forget about 250iu hcg every other day unless you don't want balls, and remember berberine or motsc for insulin.

i strongly recommend PPS 2mg/kg twice a week on top of bpc, bpc is more for tissue than like joints and flexibility

hgh i'd do 0.05mg/kg
motsc 5mg twice a week
letro 0.625mg daily or EOD
bpc 250mcg twice a day
25mg eplrenone dily
1 brilloez pill daily
some tart cherry and nattokinase
idk much about semax and cerebrolysin dose (i take p21, another form of cerebrolysin)
do ur own research on best test dose for you (i wouldn't go above 400) and adjust other stuff as needed

 

[wannabepinner]

to be honest 4000mg is too much on eplrenone it already flushes out the sodium and water for you and holds potassium, don't gotta worry about debloating so eat less potassium and increase salt if you have low blood pressure.

Im not doing it intentionally, it just kinda happened when making my diet. its 3600 so is that fine?

do ur own research on best test dose for you (i wouldn't go above 400) and adjust other stuff as needed

I think 250 would be good right?
Also this might be a dumb question but im a grey, so why do cycles last only like 2 months? If this is a fine cycle should I just continue it indefinitely or go on a break to give my body a rest? Appreciate the help a lot
hgh
cerebrolysin+infranasal semax
mots-c
nattokinase+brilloEZ+tart cherry extract
test
letrozole
BPC
ru-58841
And the stuff I forgot, hcg and berberine or motsc and PPS if I do bpc instead of Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium. How much dumber will it make me? I am in some AP courses and want to keep my straight As

 

[TheOsei]

Im not doing it intentionally, it just kinda happened when making my diet. its 3600 so is that fine?

I think 250 would be good right?
Also this might be a dumb question but im a grey, so why do cycles last only like 2 months? If this is a fine cycle should I just continue it indefinitely or go on a break to give my body a rest? Appreciate the help a lot
hgh
cerebrolysin+infranasal semax
mots-c
nattokinase+brilloEZ+tart cherry extract
test
letrozole
BPC
ru-58841
And the stuff I forgot, hcg and berberine or motsc and PPS if I do bpc instead of Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium. How much dumber will it make me? I am in some AP courses and want to keep my straight As

you won't become stupider, but definitely slower and feel more bored/flat, but the nootropics should cover up.
but anything to nuke the bone age~

 

[wannabepinner]

you won't become stupider, but definitely slower and feel more bored/flat, but the nootropics should cover up.
but anything to nuke the bone age~

What do you think about pinning oxycotin. I saw someone say it made them feel more loving and I would like that.

 

[TheOsei]

What do you think about pinning oxycotin. I saw someone say it made them feel more loving and I would like that.

it's pretty good for that yeah and indirectly helps growth but it also flushes sodium so watch how u feel. idk much else

 

[wannabepinner]

it's pretty good for that yeah and indirectly helps growth but it also flushes sodium so watch how u feel. idk much else

Appreciate it, one last thing. Why do cycles last only like 2 months? If this is a fine cycle should I just continue it indefinitely or go on a break to give my body a rest?

 

[1tsover]

Ik but I feel like I should take some no? Which ones do you recommend? Also the problem w getting bloodwork is that I dont have a car or anything, and because im 16 im pretty sure my parents need to sign for me getting my bloodwork. I dont want them knowing about it, so you think I could get my grandma or someone like that to do it? Or I could just get a blood glucose monitor right? Rn I am planning on using accutane, hgh, and cerebrolysin. What monitoring measures you think I should take?

if you want to take some of them focus on berberine metformine and reta. if you dont want to do blood tests, try monitoring your sleep, lipids, glucose, and blood pressure. even if its hard for you i would highly suggest getting atleast one professional test done after like 1-2 months on (tell your parents that you just want to do a regular checkup because you are interested in biology or some stuff like that) before its too late.

 

[jester]

just wear wrists splints for the carpal tunnel
metformin for insulin (i personally prefer motsc, it's weaker for high insulin though but has a lot other benefits)
25mg eplerenone daily for bloat (dont supplement potassium on it though)
Peg-mgf is not bad but it lowkey only grows muscle. Do bpc157 if you had to choose between them.
get some infigratinib and vosoritide if you can
and ky19382
don't forget daily 1.25mg Letrozole (no you wont die as long as you are on test and cerebrolysin/p21, and bpc i suggested earlier)

where do you get eplerenone, indiamart?

 

[1tsover]

Appreciate it, one last thing. Why do cycles last only like 2 months? If this is a fine cycle should I just continue it indefinitely or go on a break to give my body a rest?

cycles in general are just a burden to your body and a waste of time. while cycling off, your hormones are in a complete chaos trying to restabilize themselves which causes you to feel dizzy, weak or just sick in general. Professionals have a base e.x. test and hgh that they just take continuously. they always cycle substances on top of the base on and off so it acts kinda like a hormonal floor.
continuously

 

[TheOsei]

Appreciate it, one last thing. Why do cycles last only like 2 months? If this is a fine cycle should I just continue it indefinitely or go on a break to give my body a rest?

since you are still growing i'd stay on test cycling is unideal when your HPTA is still forming, 250 is pretty good, just keep the hcg.

where do you get eplerenone, indiamart?

yeah

 

[TheOsei]

Im not doing it intentionally, it just kinda happened when making my diet. its 3600 so is that fine?

I think 250 would be good right?
Also this might be a dumb question but im a grey, so why do cycles last only like 2 months? If this is a fine cycle should I just continue it indefinitely or go on a break to give my body a rest? Appreciate the help a lot
hgh
cerebrolysin+infranasal semax
mots-c
nattokinase+brilloEZ+tart cherry extract
test
letrozole
BPC
ru-58841
And the stuff I forgot, hcg and berberine or motsc and PPS if I do bpc instead of Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium. How much dumber will it make me? I am in some AP courses and want to keep my straight As

Yo mistake from earlier if ur doing 2.5mg letrozole I don’t recommend taking test.

When ur body sees ur estrogen is crushed it assumes test is too (since estrogen in me is aromatized from test) so your brain will be signaling LH to your balls like crazy and your test will be at its literally limit since your body is pushing as much T as possible since it thinks ur dying. Of course, how much T u get is capped by your development and genetics, could get up to 2000 or just 1000.