Should i do 10 ius of hgh

[Kynetic]

Look at what my supplier sent me. Getting 360 ius today. Heavily thinking abt going from 8 ius to 10.

 

[Finalkiosk]

Look at what my supplier sent me. Getting 360 ius today. Heavily thinking abt going from 8 ius to 10.

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8 to 10 wont make a noticeable difference, either go to 12, or add in 40-200mg melatonin with your current 8iu's

melatonin reduces somatostatin, and increases igf1 sensitivity, you could get more out of the hgh your already injecting

but yea if you really want you could go to 10iu, just add some melatonin to make the change even bigger

 

[frauder424]

What dose you doing rn?

 

[iwannascendpls]

What dose you doing rn?

he literally said 8IUS you stupid loser

 

[Kynetic]

8 to 10 wont make a noticeable difference, either go to 12, or add in 40-200mg melatonin with your current 8iu's

melatonin reduces somatostatin, and increases igf1 sensitivity, you could get more out of the hgh your already injecting

but yea if you really want you could go to 10iu, just add some melatonin to make the change even bigger

Noted

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

8 to 10 wont make a noticeable difference, either go to 12, or add in 40-200mg melatonin with your current 8iu's

melatonin reduces somatostatin, and increases igf1 sensitivity, you could get more out of the hgh your already injecting

but yea if you really want you could go to 10iu, just add some melatonin to make the change even bigger

ok. genuinely what the fuck is this advice? have you NEVER taken HGH before?? you're going to get the young bloke a fucking diabeties prescription like what the fuck

DO NOT go above 5 iu a day for your first fucking gh cycle especially if it's high in purity.

I ran 1iu-2iu daily pharma hgh somatropin for 3 months alone and saw actual chin width increases and genuine jaw thickening. i might be a hyper responder but seriously, do not touch the doses you see anywhere on this fucking forum because what the fuck are you gonna actually try and achieve irreversible acromegaly for? holy fucking christ

 

[Finalkiosk]

ok. genuinely what the fuck is this advice? have you NEVER taken HGH before?? you're going to get the young bloke a fucking diabeties prescription like what the fuck

DO NOT go above 5 iu a day for your first fucking gh cycle especially if it's high in purity.

I ran 1iu-2iu daily pharma hgh somatropin for 3 months alone and saw actual chin width increases and genuine jaw thickening. i might be a hyper responder but seriously, do not touch the doses you see anywhere on this fucking forum because what the fuck are you gonna actually try and achieve irreversible acromegaly for? holy fucking christ

diabetes prescription

thats a new one

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

diabetes prescription

thats a new one

you get the fucking idea holy fucking overestimation 10 iu will get the young bloke acromegaly

 

[Kynetic]

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ok. genuinely what the fuck is this advice? have you NEVER taken HGH before?? you're going to get the young bloke a fucking diabeties prescription like what the fuck

DO NOT go above 5 iu a day for your first fucking gh cycle especially if it's high in purity.

I ran 1iu-2iu daily pharma hgh somatropin for 3 months alone and saw actual chin width increases and genuine jaw thickening. i might be a hyper responder but seriously, do not touch the doses you see anywhere on this fucking forum because what the fuck are you gonna actually try and achieve irreversible acromegaly for? holy fucking christ

Acromegaly doesn’t happen unless u run it for years at high doses 12-20 ius u fucking idiot

 

[1966Ford]

According to MesoRx and an MesoRx user, We recommend 16-18 IUs

 

[Finalkiosk]

you get the fucking idea holy fucking overestimation 10 iu will get the young bloke acromegaly

no brotha

acromegaly happens at 1500+ igf1 levels sustained for decades

this guy might barely get up to 700 igf1 for a few months or years

watch some vigorous steve, anabolic round table, they talk a decent bit about hgh and all the acromegaly misconceptions

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

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Acromegaly doesn’t happen unless u run it for years at high doses 12-20 ius u fucking idiot

yeah ok tell that to that the 15 yr old running 2.5 iu for a year that has crystal clear features of acromegaly dumbass it depends on each individual and anywhere near 10 iu will land you in that zone regardless of term length. even bodybuilders dont touch 10 iu unless they're fucking mass monsters

 

[Finalkiosk]

According to MesoRx and an MesoRx user, We recommend 16-18 IUs

you could get 85% of the benefits of 18 iu at 12iu imo, your liver becomes the bottleneck for igf1 production

at that point you better get your wallet ready and buy some pharma increlex and pin 2-8mg of that daily

 

[Meteor21]

Addicts.org

 

[frauder424]

he literally said 8IUS you stupid loser

Shit mb I’m to tired for this shit

 

[Finalkiosk]

yeah ok tell that to that the 15 yr old running 2.5 iu for a year that has crystal clear features of acromegaly dumbass it depends on each individual and anywhere near 10 iu will land you in that zone regardless of term length. even bodybuilders dont touch 10 iu unless they're fucking mass monsters

you cannot determine acromegaly during puberty

thats called basic dimorphism during puberty

you produce 5-6 ius during early puberty, you had more natural hgh than the geno or whatever pharma grade you were pinning

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

no brotha

acromegaly happens at 1500+ igf1 levels sustained for decades

this guy might barely get up to 700 igf1 for a few months or years

watch some vigorous steve, anabolic round table, they talk a decent bit about hgh and all the acromegaly misconceptions

i have watched them and generally agree with them for the normal person running gear with hgh but this young bloke is young, his bones likely aren't fused yet and he'll 100% see characteristically acro features in no time.


everyone i've seen that runs 7iu+ for 6 months ends up having long ass fucking chin to philthrum ratios, especially under the age of 18. vigirous steve even points this out and says that he's only seen data and first hand exp in people above 20

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

natural production of Human Growth Hormone (HGH) in a healthy adult is estimated to be approximately 0.5 to 1.5 IU per day

Use of Ubp1 protease analog to produce recombinant human growth hormone in Escherichia coli - PMC

Numerous bacterial human growth hormone (hGH) expression methods under conventional fermentation and induction conditions have been described. Despite significant progress made in this area over the past several years, production of recombinant hGH ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Preparation and Properties of Human Growth Hormone

This chapter discusses the preparation and properties of human growth hormone (HGH). The scarcity of human pituitary glands and the requirement of com…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

natural production of Human Growth Hormone (HGH) in a healthy adult is estimated to be approximately 0.5 to 1.5 IU per day

Use of Ubp1 protease analog to produce recombinant human growth hormone in Escherichia coli - PMC

Numerous bacterial human growth hormone (hGH) expression methods under conventional fermentation and induction conditions have been described. Despite significant progress made in this area over the past several years, production of recombinant hGH ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

sure we can say its slightly higher in teenagers but it is not even close to 6

 

[Finalkiosk]

i have watched them and generally agree with them for the normal person running gear with hgh but this young bloke is young, his bones likely aren't fused yet and he'll 100% see characteristically acro features in no time.


everyone i've seen that runs 7iu+ for 6 months ends up having long ass fucking chin to philthrum ratios, especially under the age of 18. vigirous steve even points this out and says that he's only seen data and first hand exp in people above 20

the very fact you ran hgh during puberty makes it impossible to tell if your bone development was androgenic or through hgh

we have no accurate data to use here

and 1-2 iu of pharma is less than teenage replacement, i doubt that caused acro in you

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

the very fact you ran hgh during puberty makes it impossible to tell if your bone development was androgenic or through hgh

we have no accurate data to use here

and 1-2 iu of pharma is less than teenage replacement, i doubt that caused acro in you

i didn't say it caused agro, the more likely outcome was that it just enhanced existing growth or sped it up because i did notice my last bit of growth during that time period, didn't grow a single cm for the past 2 years and went from 172cm to 174.5cm in that 6 month timeframe at 17 having thought my plates fused. never got them checked but haven't grown since and i'm 19 now so you get the idea. chances are that it was the hgh

 

[Finalkiosk]

i didn't say it caused agro, the more likely outcome was that it just enhanced existing growth or sped it up because i did notice my last bit of growth during that time period, didn't grow a single cm for the past 2 years and went from 172cm to 174.5cm in that 6 month timeframe at 17 having thought my plates fused. never got them checked but haven't grown since and i'm 19 now so you get the idea. chances are that it was the hgh

hgh is supposed to increase velocity alongside your total potential

i never ran any hgh before getting to 184cm, and i started at 3.75-4iu daily for general muscle growth n shit but later on moved to 6-8 with melatonin and tren for enhanced igf1 sensitivity

ive probably grown another 3-3.5cm in the last year and the majority of it i wasent on hgh or test, i would say the hgh maintained my velocity instead of suddenly giving me 3x height growth for a month and giving my "full potential" earlier on

it requires 3mg of pharma hgh to cause hyperplasia in muscle cells, bone cells are way harder to grow than muscle cells
this 3mg of hgh also requires aas in the picture as kurt keeps saying

based off of common sense, if 3mg of hgh is required for noticeable hyperplasia to occur, its easy to say it would require more to grow your skeleton, muscle cells receive alot more blood flow and nutrient delivery too so its hard to equate how much of the igf1 is really stimulating bone growth

 

[iwannascendpls]

yeah ok tell that to that the 15 yr old running 2.5 iu for a year that has crystal clear features of acromegaly dumbass it depends on each individual and anywhere near 10 iu will land you in that zone regardless of term length. even bodybuilders dont touch 10 iu unless they're fucking mass monsters

2.5IU won't give you acromegaly that's like barely supra physiological JFL. Even if this 1 in a million case with extreme GHR sensibility or whatever is true why would you base general dosing on him. brutal iqpill

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

hgh is supposed to increase velocity alongside your total potential

i never ran any hgh before getting to 184cm, and i started at 3.75-4iu daily for general muscle growth n shit but later on moved to 6-8 with melatonin and tren for enhanced igf1 sensitivity

ive probably grown another 3-3.5cm in the last year and the majority of it i wasent on hgh or test, i would say the hgh maintained my velocity instead of suddenly giving me 3x height growth for a month and giving my "full potential" earlier on

it requires 3mg of pharma hgh to cause hyperplasia in muscle cells, bone cells are way harder to grow than muscle cells
this 3mg of hgh also requires aas in the picture as kurt keeps saying

based off of common sense, if 3mg of hgh is required for noticeable hyperplasia to occur, its easy to say it would require more to grow your skeleton, muscle cells receive alot more blood flow and nutrient delivery too so its hard to equate how much of the igf1 is really stimulating bone growth

idk what sources you get your info from but they don't check out

Effect of growth hormone dose on bone maturation and puberty in children with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

GH at 0.37 mg/kg x wk does not appear to accelerate pubertal onset, pace, or bone maturation compared with GH at 0.24 mg/kg x wk in patients with idiopathic short stature. From a clinical standpoint, our results suggest that the approved dose range of up to 0.37 mg/kg x wk GH does not lead to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Finalkiosk]

idk what sources you get your info from but they don't check out

Effect of growth hormone dose on bone maturation and puberty in children with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

GH at 0.37 mg/kg x wk does not appear to accelerate pubertal onset, pace, or bone maturation compared with GH at 0.24 mg/kg x wk in patients with idiopathic short stature. From a clinical standpoint, our results suggest that the approved dose range of up to 0.37 mg/kg x wk GH does not lead to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

kurt havens on anabolic round table

not sure which episode cause ive watched all of them and its one big blur now but he repeatedly talks about hgh's hyperplasia effect

specifically igf1's, hgh doesnt actually cause any growth, its a stress hormone that stimulates igf1 production

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

2.5IU won't give you acromegaly that's like barely supra physiological JFL. Even if this 1 in a million case with extreme GHR sensibility or whatever is true why would you base general dosing on him. brutal iqpill

think about it for 2 seconds, i doubt i'm even close to that of a sensitive receiver its just that none of you have run hgh at under 17 so why comment on such a post with bs recommendations of 10 iu+ without a crucial understanding of what you're even saying, if my friends whom also ran gh with me (5iu to 7iu) for about 12 weeks to 20 weeks each also achieved visible facial changes it is more than safe to say that it would do the same in the op

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

think about it for 2 seconds, i doubt i'm even close to that of a sensitive receiver its just that none of you have run hgh at under 17 so why comment on such a post with bs recommendations of 10 iu+ without a crucial understanding of what you're even saying, if my friends whom also ran gh with me (5iu to 7iu) for about 12 weeks to 20 weeks each also achieved visible facial changes it is more than safe to say that it would do the same in the op

only reason i did 2iu was because hgh it expensive as fuck, friends did 5-7iu and i visibly saw the results in their jaws, it was extremely unfavorable to attraction and they just have really long mandibles that fuck their side and front profiles up

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

i'd write a really indepth response to ts but im honestly not bothered, different people, different responses, just dont recommend insane fucking doses that'll trigger kilos of bloat and eventually cause this young man to hate himself for a year

 

[iwannascendpls]

think about it for 2 seconds, i doubt i'm even close to that of a sensitive receiver its just that none of you have run hgh at under 17 so why comment on such a post with bs recommendations of 10 iu+ without a crucial understanding of what you're even saying, if my friends whom also ran gh with me (5iu to 7iu) for about 12 weeks to 20 weeks each also achieved visible facial changes it is more than safe to say that it would do the same in the op

it's obv going to stimulate bone formation in the face but acromegaly is extreme bone and tissue growth from a GH excess, not mild "noticeable" growth, that's obviously going to happen, that's what GROWTH HORMONE DOES

 

[iwannascendpls]

only reason i did 2iu was because hgh it expensive as fuck, friends did 5-7iu and i visibly saw the results in their jaws, it was extremely unfavorable to attraction and they just have really long mandibles that fuck their side and front profiles up

ok sure I guess mandibular growth is not beneficial for everyone, ill give you that. even then, you can't base recommendations on anecdotal evidence from your high school buddies

 

[iwannascendpls]

i'd write a really indepth response to ts but im honestly not bothered, different people, different responses, just dont recommend insane fucking doses that'll trigger kilos of bloat and eventually cause this young man to hate himself for a year

brutal

 

[TheoreticalFrame]

ok sure I guess mandibular growth is not beneficial for everyone, ill give you that. even then, you can't base recommendations on anecdotal evidence from your high school buddies

generally safer to try lower doses instead of starting at an insanely high dose like op has

 

[iwannascendpls]

generally safer to try lower doses instead of starting at an insanely high dose like op has

yeah sure im starting at 2IU but as soon as I can afford it I will bump my dose (gradually ofc) to 10-12 IUs... Even then I'd do it faster if I wasn't a moneycel but whatever