should i do blepharoplasty first?

[ducksoover]

hi all, I currently am in 2 minds here and unsure what to do.

I have every single flaw you can name in an eye area, literally. My IPD is in the normal range thankfully but everything else is fucked, thus making me sub5 no matter how hard I softmaxx.

should I get blepharoplasty before any other procedures on my eye area?

my flaws :

-upper eyelid exposure
-bug eyes/protuding eyes/ negative orbital vector.
-negative cantal tilt
-hyperpigmentation

procedures i want: -
-periorbital implants
-fat graft
-canthoplasty (maybe)
-blepharoplasty as mentioned

would getting blepharoplasty first cause any issues later on?

 

[ethnic subhuman]

Add a photo of your eyes

 

[Ascensions101]

hi all, I currently am in 2 minds here and unsure what to do.

I have every single flaw you can name in an eye area, literally. My IPD is in the normal range thankfully but everything else is fucked, thus making me sub5 no matter how hard I softmaxx.

should I get blepharoplasty before any other procedures on my eye area?

my flaws :

-upper eyelid exposure
-bug eyes/protuding eyes/ negative orbital vector.
-negative cantal tilt
-hyperpigmentation

procedures i want: -
-periorbital implants
-fat graft
-canthoplasty (maybe)
-blepharoplasty as mentioned

would getting blepharoplasty first cause any issues later on?

blepharoplasty works on your eyelid which will give you a better tilt thus fixing the tail of your eye , id recommend starting with that then get infra implants and then if your tilt is still lacking get cantho ig jfl

 

[ducksoover]

my subhuman eyes for reference:

it has literally been destroying my quality of life

@ethnic subhuman

 

[ducksoover]

blepharoplasty works on your eyelid which will give you a better tilt thus fixing the tail of your eye , id recommend starting with that then get infra implants and then if your tilt is still lacking get cantho ig jfl

I did hear that pagnoni refused to work on someone because they had done some work on their eyes, i believe it was fat graft? I'm unsure. I just don't want to guck myself by not being able to get the periorbital implants and whatnot.

 

[Ascensions101]

I did hear that pagnoni refused to work on someone because they had done some work on their eyes, i believe it was fat graft? I'm unsure. I just don't want to guck myself by not being able to get the periorbital implants and whatnot.

you willl

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

I have verysimilar eye area. What do you think about doing in term of surgery ? Iam also wondering

 

[ducksoover]

I have verysimilar eye area. What do you think about doing in term of surgery ? Iam also wondering

I'm planning on getting fat grafts on periorbital area. I'm gonna tell doc to overfill as much as he can. I plan to go to Ratitan clinic next year for this. If ya can, you can come with me

Then I plan to get canthoplasty somewhere else, maybe Thailand, I don't know.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Iam in Europe. Iam very reluctant to get surgery done anywhere else outside (like turkey, Asia, Budapest etc).
But the price will probably be around 6-8k per procedure


But I think I might get canthoplasty and fat grafting as well.
And what do you think of peri orbital implants ?

 

[ducksoover]

Iam in Europe. Iam very reluctant to get surgery done anywhere else outside (like turkey, Asia, Budapest etc).
But the price will probably be around 6-8k per procedure


But I think I might get canthoplasty and fat grafting as well.
And what do you think of peri orbital implants ?

Periorbital implants is my first choice actually, but very few surgeons perform this. Liam from Giant implants has done Periorbital implants and the result was actually pretty impressive, I haven't seen any other results from him though.

I've also seen threads from people who say he has been very unprofessional and does not have the experience to be advertising himself like the way he does.

I have also seen a botch done by him where the implant was placed incorrectly on the jaw.. lol. I don't know what to think of Liam tbh, I don't know if I should take the risk.

I have seen PLENTY of good results from fat grafting + cantho though. This is why I want it. It's much less risk and saves me THOUSANDS. I could even get the procedures done now but I don't have the time as of yet.

Problem with Eurooean surgeons is that they won't give a more radical result. I live in Europe too and I know that they are quite conservative in their approach. I can simply go to Thailand and ask for a fuck ton of fat to be injected around my eyes, like 150% overfill lol, if he advises against it then I'll just pay him more. Everything has a price.

With 150% overfill for my upper and lower orbital rims,.I'd have insane fat pads. No Euro surgeon is gonna do that for me, at least to my knowledge. Aesthetics Waiting (youtube channel) has also gone to that Ratitan clinic.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Periorbital implants is my first choice actually, but very few surgeons perform this. Liam from Giant implants has done Periorbital implants and the result was actually pretty impressive, I haven't seen any other results from him though.

I've also seen threads from people who say he has been very unprofessional and does not have the experience to be advertising himself like the way he does.

I have also seen a botch done by him where the implant was placed incorrectly on the jaw.. lol. I don't know what to think of Liam tbh, I don't know if I should take the risk.

I have seen PLENTY of good results from fat grafting + cantho though. This is why I want it. It's much less risk and saves me THOUSANDS. I could even get the procedures done now but I don't have the time as of yet.

Problem with Eurooean surgeons is that they won't give a more radical result. I live in Europe too and I know that they are quite conservative in their approach. I can simply go to Thailand and ask for a fuck ton of fat to be injected around my eyes, like 150% overfill lol, if he advises against it then I'll just pay him more. Everything has a price.

With 150% overfill for my upper and lower orbital rims,.I'd have insane fat pads. No Euro surgeon is gonna do that for me, at least to my knowledge. Aesthetics Waiting (youtube channel) has also gone to that Ratitan clinic.

Oh yes I’ve heard he went to a clinic in Thailand I didn’t know it was that one.

What you’re saying about European surgeons is probably true.
Actually iam about to get bimax jaw surgery and genioplasty around February next year with a European surgeon. I think he’ll advance me enough but iam not sure. He told me like 8mm lower jaw and 5-6mm upper jaw.

I think doing anything with giant implant is kind of a joke, I see him as more of a meme tbh. Also you’d have to pay so much to get implants done.

I think fat graft and cantho is our best ROI and lowest risk. When it comes to fat graft the more the better ?

 

[ducksoover]

I think fat graft and cantho is our best ROI and lowest risk. When it comes to fat graft the more the better ?

Well, when the fat is injected, some percent of the fat will be absorbed. I don't know how much, nobody knows. I have very hollow eyes which destroys my eye area. If I get 150% overfill, the chances of there being lumps and whatnot does increase but this can be easily fixed. I want my eye area to be as smooth as possible. I would tell the doc to not overfill my upper eyelids that much as too much fat there can cause negative hooding.

I also want to get some fat grafting on my temples which aren't that hollow but it will improve my overall harmony.

If ya want, you can come with me sometime next year to Thailand for the procedures . I know a bunch of dudes who get surgeries together, a shared experience makes it easier for everyone.
I'm only really going there for the fat graft, I'm very busy and need to focus on other things going on.

Good luck on the bimax too, best of luck.

 

[underatedgreycel]

Uh oh he’s brown

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Well, when the fat is injected, some percent of the fat will be absorbed. I don't know how much, nobody knows. I have very hollow eyes which destroys my eye area. If I get 150% overfill, the chances of there being lumps and whatnot does increase but this can be easily fixed. I want my eye area to be as smooth as possible. I would tell the doc to not overfill my upper eyelids that much as too much fat there can cause negative hooding.

I also want to get some fat grafting on my temples which aren't that hollow but it will improve my overall harmony.

If ya want, you can come with me sometime next year to Thailand for the procedures . I know a bunch of dudes who get surgeries together, a shared experience makes it easier for everyone.
I'm only really going there for the fat graft, I'm very busy and need to focus on other things going on.

Good luck on the bimax too, best of luck.

Tbh now ima pretty I will do it but first I need to finish my DJS in February. Then veneer max after all the orthodontics.
Then I’ll have to look at the money that’s remaining and decide how I’ll spend it. But I’ll probably not do any other surgery on my eye area before end of 2026 you know.

Realistically after my jaw and teeth are fixed, only my eye area will be the real bottle neck to ascend so I’ll have to fix it at some point.

 

[ducksoover]

Then veneer max after all the orthodontics.

I also gotta sort my teeth out too. My top row is perfect but bottom row is cooked

 

[ducksoover]

Then I’ll have to look at the money that’s remaining

it costed AW $1400 lol.

It's gonna cost me probably no more than £3000 for the flight, accomodation (which is stupid cheap in thailand), and procedures.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

it costed AW $1400 lol.

It's gonna cost me probably no more than £3000 for the flight, accomodation (which is stupid cheap in thailand), and procedures.

When do you plan on doing it ?
Do you have some before & after that made you take the decision ?

Also If iam gonna go to Thailand I think I won’t come only for the operation but also for touristic purposes

 

[Sadist]

get fat grafts and THEN bleph for max ROI bro

 

[ducksoover]

When do you plan on doing it ?

next year summer probably

Do you have some before & after that made you take the decision ?

i mean, you've seen AW's result right? I have seen multiple others too, even some on this forum

Also If iam gonna go to Thailand I think I won’t come only for the operation but also for touristic purposes

I would too but I don't want to walk around looking like I just got beat up lol

I'll do tourism stuff when i've got more time on my hands tbh.

 

[ducksoover]

get fat grafts and THEN bleph for max ROI bro

that's the plan

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

next year summer probably

i mean, you've seen AW's result right? I have seen multiple others too, even some on this forum

I would too but I don't want to walk around looking like I just got beat up lol

I'll do tourism stuff when i've got more time on my hands

I know that being 20, those surgeries are giving me the best roi for the rest of my life that’s why iam interested in doing it.
But I don’t know exactly how much it will ascend me as I haven’t seen much transfos beside AWs which is actually pretty good.
How do you know it’s his clinic btw

 

[ducksoover]

I know that being 20, those surgeries are giving me the best roi for the rest of my life that’s why iam interested in doing it.
But I don’t know exactly how much it will ascend me as I haven’t seen much transfos beside AWs which is actually pretty good.
How do you know it’s his clinic btw

he told me in dms