Should I do Deca or Turinabol for first cycle?

[Deleted member 18244]

Supposedly they are the most hair safe roids. Anyone tried them?

 

[height]

Bitch

 

[Erik-Jón]

Supposedly they are the most hair safe roids. Anyone tried them?

Don’t take either it will fuck your bones

 

[Deleted member 18244]

Don’t take either it will fuck your bones

How? My plates are fused

 

[Erik-Jón]

How? My plates are fused

Idk I feel like my brains would disintegrate if I took roids

 

[Solar]

Test e

 

[Over]

Supposedly they are the most hair safe roids. Anyone tried them?

500mg Testosterone Enanthate

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Supposedly they are the most hair safe roids. Anyone tried them?

Do TRT level Test and Anavar instead. Deca stays around so long.

 

[Deleted member 18244]

500mg Testosterone Enanthate

Test e

isnt that horrible for dht?

 

[Deleted member 18244]

Do TRT level Test and Anavar instead. Deca stays around so long.

Isnt anavar horrible for your liver?

 

[Over]

isnt that horrible for dht?

If you have subhuman hair genetics then maybe

 

[Deleted member 21863]

Do sarms or classic testosterone enanthate brah

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Isnt anavar horrible for your liver?

It's weak. Women take it and they give it to burn victims.

 

[Solar]

isnt that horrible for dht?

take finasteride and you can take up to 300mg of Test E (general consensus that 1mg of finasteride can prevent too much DHT up till 300 mg of test e)

and if you want add a weak oral to that

 

[Deleted member 18244]

take finasteride and you can take up to 300mg of Test E (general consensus that 1mg of finasteride can prevent too much DHT up till 300 mg of test e)

and if you want add a weak oral to that

Isnt fin a poison tho? Arent I better off with deca ?

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Isnt fin a poison tho? Arent I better off with deca ?

It will shut you down badly.

 

[Deleted member 18244]

It will shut you down badly.

Shut me down how? After the cycle if i dont do post cycle orr?

 

[Solar]

Isnt fin a poison tho? Arent I better off with deca ?

bro what? If you take steroids fin wont have any effect on your test lol

if nattys take fin they might become slightly more soy due to less dht and more estrogen but if youre blasting test you have to take finasteride if you plan to keep your hair

also research more about deca it has some side effects like limp dick which are bad etc

but deca is the anabolic steroid with the least amount of hair loss due to it being less androgenic then testosterone and it not being able to convert to dht

but whatever you do never take deca with finasteride, scientifically people dont understand the chemical process but if you combine these 2 compounds you will rape your hair

 

[Deleted member 18244]

bro what? If you take steroids fin wont have any effect on your test lol

if nattys take fin they might become slightly more soy due to less dht and more estrogen but if youre blasting test you have to take finasteride if you plan to keep your hair

also research more about deca it has some side effects like limp dick which are bad etc

but deca is the anabolic steroid with the least amount of hair loss due to it being less androgenic then testosterone and it not being able to convert to dht

but whatever you do never take deca with finasteride, scientifically people dont understand the chemical process but if you combine these 2 compounds you will rape your hair

Does fin cause limp dick tho? So you recommend anavar, not deca or turi? Might be good for leanmaxxing, anavar

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Shut me down how? After the cycle if i dont do post cycle orr?

Yeah the pct is rough and there is a phenomenon called Deca-dick.

Tbh if you want to run deca only do it with 250iu HCG a week so keep your test level stable and balls working.

 

[Solar]

Does fin cause limp dick tho

the chance is 1/100 for permanent limp dick/erectile dysfuntion, very unlikely

what can happen is slighty softer erection which go away after a while

So you recommend anavar, not deca or turi? Might be good for leanmaxxing, anavar

tbh I would never recommend an oral only cycle, maybe low dose Test E (250 ed5) and Anavar 20 mg ED

 

[Erik-Jón]

Source; your butt

Deca has been used by doctors to treat oestoroporosis in the past. Nandrolone Decanoate has a very powerful effect on building bone mineral density. It is actually the one steroid that has the biggest effect of building bones.

Effects of nandrolone decanoate on bone mass in established osteoporosis - PubMed

A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study was conducted in 46 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis in order to assess the long-term effects of nandrolone decanoate on the bone mineral density (BMD) of the lumbar vertebrae and of the distal third of the radius and on the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study was conducted in 46 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis in order to assess the long-term effects of nandrolone decanoate on the bone mineral density (BMD) of the lumbar vertebrae and of the distal third of the radius and on the biochemical markers of bone turnover. The patients received intramuscular injections of placebo or 50 mg nandrolone decanoate every 3 weeks for 18 months. Thirty-two of the initial 46 patients completed 1 year of study and 25 completed the whole study period of 18 months. Overall, vertebral BMD increased by 2.9% in the nandrolone decanoate group and fell by 2.3% in the placebo group. Radial BMD showed a slight but transient improvement, with a subsequent return to basal levels in the nandrolone decanoate group, whereas there was a progressive decrease in the placebo group. Patients treated with nandrolone decanoate also complained less of bone pain. Urinary hydroxyproline decreased significantly in treated patients, whereas osteocalcin tended to increase, but the change was not significant. HDL cholesterol concentrations decreased only slightly and haemoglobin increased significantly in the nandrolone decanoate group. Two patients treated with nandrolone decanoate withdrew from the study because of hirsutism and hoarseness. The results indicate that nandrolone decanoate exerts positive effects on vertebral BMD and on bone pain in patients with established postmenopausal osteoporosis.

The effect of nandrolone decanoate on bone mineral density, muscle mass, and hemoglobin levels in elderly women with osteoporosis: a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial - PubMed

ND increased BMD, hemoglobin levels, and muscle mass, and reduced the vertebral fracture rate of elderly osteoporotic women.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Compared to baseline, ND increased the BMD of the lumbar spine (3.4% +/- 6.0 and 3.7% +/- 7.4; p < .05) and femoral neck (4.1% +/- 7.3 and 4.7% +/- 8.0; p < .05) after 1 and 2 years, respectively. The BMD of trochanter increased significantly only after the first year (4.8% +/- 9.3, p < .05). Compared to the placebo group, the ND group presented with significantly increased BMD of the trochanter and neck. ND significantly reduced incidence of new vertebral fractures (21% vs 43% in the placebo group; p < .05). ND showed a significant statistical increase in lean body mass after the first (6.2% +/- 5.8; p < .01) and second years (11.9% +/- 29.2; p < .01). In addition, a 2-year treatment with ND significantly increased hemoglobin levels compared to baseline (14.3%; p < .01) and placebo (p < .01).
Conclusions: ND increased BMD, hemoglobin levels, and muscle mass, and reduced the vertebral fracture rate of elderly osteoporotic women.



+ there are thousands of more studies on nandrolone Decanoate and bones if you just google

But bones

 

[Deleted member 18244]

Source; your butt

Deca has been used by doctors to treat oestoroporosis in the past. Nandrolone Decanoate has a very powerful effect on building bone mineral density. It is actually the one steroid that has the biggest effect of building bones.

Effects of nandrolone decanoate on bone mass in established osteoporosis - PubMed

A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study was conducted in 46 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis in order to assess the long-term effects of nandrolone decanoate on the bone mineral density (BMD) of the lumbar vertebrae and of the distal third of the radius and on the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study was conducted in 46 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis in order to assess the long-term effects of nandrolone decanoate on the bone mineral density (BMD) of the lumbar vertebrae and of the distal third of the radius and on the biochemical markers of bone turnover. The patients received intramuscular injections of placebo or 50 mg nandrolone decanoate every 3 weeks for 18 months. Thirty-two of the initial 46 patients completed 1 year of study and 25 completed the whole study period of 18 months. Overall, vertebral BMD increased by 2.9% in the nandrolone decanoate group and fell by 2.3% in the placebo group. Radial BMD showed a slight but transient improvement, with a subsequent return to basal levels in the nandrolone decanoate group, whereas there was a progressive decrease in the placebo group. Patients treated with nandrolone decanoate also complained less of bone pain. Urinary hydroxyproline decreased significantly in treated patients, whereas osteocalcin tended to increase, but the change was not significant. HDL cholesterol concentrations decreased only slightly and haemoglobin increased significantly in the nandrolone decanoate group. Two patients treated with nandrolone decanoate withdrew from the study because of hirsutism and hoarseness. The results indicate that nandrolone decanoate exerts positive effects on vertebral BMD and on bone pain in patients with established postmenopausal osteoporosis.

The effect of nandrolone decanoate on bone mineral density, muscle mass, and hemoglobin levels in elderly women with osteoporosis: a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial - PubMed

ND increased BMD, hemoglobin levels, and muscle mass, and reduced the vertebral fracture rate of elderly osteoporotic women.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Compared to baseline, ND increased the BMD of the lumbar spine (3.4% +/- 6.0 and 3.7% +/- 7.4; p < .05) and femoral neck (4.1% +/- 7.3 and 4.7% +/- 8.0; p < .05) after 1 and 2 years, respectively. The BMD of trochanter increased significantly only after the first year (4.8% +/- 9.3, p < .05). Compared to the placebo group, the ND group presented with significantly increased BMD of the trochanter and neck. ND significantly reduced incidence of new vertebral fractures (21% vs 43% in the placebo group; p < .05). ND showed a significant statistical increase in lean body mass after the first (6.2% +/- 5.8; p < .01) and second years (11.9% +/- 29.2; p < .01). In addition, a 2-year treatment with ND significantly increased hemoglobin levels compared to baseline (14.3%; p < .01) and placebo (p < .01).
Conclusions: ND increased BMD, hemoglobin levels, and muscle mass, and reduced the vertebral fracture rate of elderly osteoporotic women.



+ there are thousands of more studies on nandrolone Decanoate and bones if you just goo

Damn that is tempting then. Deca sound awesome

 

[Deleted member 18244]

the chance is 1/100 for permanent limp dick/erectile dysfuntion, very unlikely

what can happen is slighty softer erection which go away after a while

tbh I would never recommend an oral only cycle, maybe low dose Test E (250 ed5) and Anavar 20 mg ED

You wouldnt recommend oral cause its bad fornyour liver? A lot of people tell me to do test e 250/500 for first cycle

 

[Solar]

Nah anavar is mild on your liver, even alcohol is worse lol, I dont recommend oral only cycles because they are shit

barely any gains and your natural test production gets shut down

 

[Solar]

test e 250

this is optimal for your first cycle