Should i even hope for lf2 for recessed midface?

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Is it possible to find a good surgeon in europe that does it to non deformed patients or should i just get it out of my head and cope with implants?
 
Is it possible to find a good surgeon in europe that does it to non deformed patients or should i just get it out of my head and cope with implants?
Only giant does lf2
 
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Giant is able to do it with celal because of turkish regulations and whatnot. Not sure how the regulations are in italy. Its likely pagnoni would never do a lf2. Just my thoughts.
 
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Giant is able to do it with celal because of turkish regulations and whatnot. Not sure how the regulations are in italy. Its likely pagnoni would never do a lf2. Just my thoughts.
I heard this from a pretty reliable source so idk about this.

The Turks are unfortunately still living under all the negative surgery stigmas about turkey. So for that reason many people will avoid celal, regardless of his expertise or giant chipping in. I do think that truely blackpilled hardmaxers wont care tho. Under giants supervision the surgery is simply way more likely to be a great success
 
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Yea who knows yk. Celal is a good option because: A surgeon is a surgeon, All he's going to be doing is making the cuts with the custom guides. Celal just does what giant designs. The design is really the only thing that matters anymore. Course you want a surgeon that knows what he's doing... However, the design is going to determine how you look. I just dont think pagnoni would be able to get away with doing LF2 without his license being questioned yk.
 
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Yea who knows yk. Celal is a good option because: A surgeon is a surgeon, All he's going to be doing is making the cuts with the custom guides. Celal just does what giant designs. The design is really the only thing that matters anymore. Course you want a surgeon that knows what he's doing... However, the design is going to determine how you look. I just dont think pagnoni would be able to get away with doing LF2 without his license being questioned yk.
Good input. Are you in the process of getting something done (soon)?
 
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Good input. Are you in the process of getting something done (soon)?
yupp. Ive been talking to giant about a possible downgrafted bimax. I need vertical length, and a little bigonial width. LF2 would actually be my dream. Although, I am 18, I only have so much money saved, and I wanna ascend in my prime. Only thing we are waiting on right now Is $. Have about 4-5k to go before I can fully pay.
 
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Good input. Are you in the process of getting something done (soon)?
Dont know if you use TT but I am Hardmaxx results on TT. Im gonna be releasing a community where i Cover everything hardmaxx related & showcasing my transformation. :)
 
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yupp. Ive been talking to giant about a possible downgrafted bimax. I need vertical length, and a little bigonial width. LF2 would actually be my dream. Although, I am 18, I only have so much money saved, and I wanna ascend in my prime. Only thing we are waiting on right now Is $. Have about 4-5k to go before I can fully pay.
Can I dm you? Got some questions in private
 
Dont know if you use TT but I am Hardmaxx results on TT. Im gonna be releasing a community where i Cover everything hardmaxx related & showcasing my transformation. :)
I deleted that brain rot app finally after months but I’ll look into it
 
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wish a giant x ramieri le fort2 collaboration which isn’t happening in light years :feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
yupp. Ive been talking to giant about a possible downgrafted bimax. I need vertical length, and a little bigonial width. LF2 would actually be my dream. Although, I am 18, I only have so much money saved, and I wanna ascend in my prime. Only thing we are waiting on right now Is $. Have about 4-5k to go before I can fully pay.
u have been talking to giant, why not going for a lf2?
 
LF2 would actually be my dream. Although, I am 18, I only have so much money saved, and I wanna ascend in my prime. Only thing we are waiting on right now Is $. Have about 4-5k to go before I can fully pay.
this is your prime
 
u have been talking to giant, why not going for a lf2?
Bro, Lf2 cosmetics was purely cope before giant came around. The guy as performed what, 1, maybe 2 true lefort 2's. A high lf1 cut will aid me well. Im not some deformed fk, just need a longer face.
 
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Dont know if you use TT but I am Hardmaxx results on TT. Im gonna be releasing a community where i Cover everything hardmaxx related & showcasing my transformation. :)
What's your tiktok? I deactivated my account but I'd interested in seeing results once they come about.
 
Yea who knows yk. Celal is a good option because: A surgeon is a surgeon, All he's going to be doing is making the cuts with the custom guides. Celal just does what giant designs. The design is really the only thing that matters anymore. Course you want a surgeon that knows what he's doing... However, the design is going to determine how you look. I just dont think pagnoni would be able to get away with doing LF2 without his license being questioned yk.

Please don't type nonsense when you don't know what you are talking about.

The surgeon will always override the implant designer and are significantly more important than the designer, because shit surgeons will leave you functionally impaired.
 
Please don't type nonsense when you don't know what you are talking about.

The surgeon will always override the implant designer and are significantly more important than the designer, because shit surgeons will leave you functionally impaired.
But thats just wrong? Custom guides are made, and then the cuts are made per those custom guides. Giant WILL decide how the patient will look because of this. Do you not understand CMF planning? Lmao.
 
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But thats just wrong? Custom guides are made, and then the cuts are made per those custom guides. Giant WILL decide how the patient will look because of this. Do you not understand CMF planning? Lmao.

You make it seem like the surgeon is simply applying a band aid and not carefully cutting bone around nerves. Custom guides are irrelevant.

The surgeon decides the final movements and makes last minute changes, not some implant designer who no one has any clue as to his background.
 
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Please don't type nonsense when you don't know what you are talking about.

The surgeon will always override the implant designer and are significantly more important than the designer, because shit surgeons will leave you functionally impaired.

You make it seem like the surgeon is simply applying a band aid and not carefully cutting bone around nerves. Custom guides are irrelevant.

The surgeon decides the final movements and makes last minute changes, not some implant designer who no one has any clue as to his background.
Whatever boss man.
 

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