Should I get a girlfriend? Need an advice from my Muslim brothers.

[ShowerMaxxing]

I don't think there is any inceldom in Muslim lives. Islam is itself the solution to inceldom through marriage.

The marriage will be sexless, just like Indian arranged marriages. She lets pajeet hit gets knocked up then never again. You need a women that find you attractive

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Wats BC?

Birth control

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

just marry if you are practicing muslim

Issue with marriage is the huge financial risk because of gynocentric society

 

[SecularIslamist]

Birth control

Birth control and abortions aren't as strict in some schools of thought actually. I think shafi madhab is most liberal surprisingly. Many do accept abortions before the 'ruh' (soul) enters physical body. But similar discussion to Americucks but less controversial because it's not the secular non-religious ones insisting on abortions.

Issue with marriage is the huge financial risk because of gynocentric society

Achraf Hakimi maxxx.

 

[SecularIslamist]

Birth control and abortions aren't as strict in some schools of thought actually. I think shafi madhab is most liberal surprisingly. Many do accept abortions before the 'ruh' (soul) enters physical body. But similar discussion to Americucks but less controversial because it's not the secular non-religious ones insisting on abortions.


Achraf Hakimi maxxx.

I would tag @Fiqh but he gives singular one dimensional opinions quoting from IslamQA.

 

[Fiqh]

I would tag @Fiqh but he gives singular one dimensional opinions quoting from IslamQA.

I quote from the Quran or Sunnah more often than not.

Because I fear Allah, I refer back to what scholars have said. Allah said:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا

"O you who have believed, obey Allāh and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allāh and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allāh and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result." (An-Nisaa' 4:59)

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: "This knowledge will be carried by the trustworthy ones of every generation. They will expel from it the alteration/changes made by those going beyond bounds; the false claims of the liars and the false interpretations of the ignorant ones." Narrated by Ahmad and others.

The answers are not "one dimensional", rather you seem to be unaware of how fatwas are issued.

However, you can ask @Greycel Slayer or you can do your own research before making statements with uncertainty.

 

[OldRooster]

Reminder: 90% of Muslims are antisemitic liars.

 

[SecularIslamist]

I quote from the Quran or Sunnah more often than not.

Because I fear Allah, I refer back to what scholars have said. Allah said:





The answers are not "one dimensional", rather you seem to be unaware of how fatwas are issued.

However, you can ask @Greycel Slayer or you can do your own research before making statements with uncertainty.

Some issues have multiple opinions though and all of them may be valid. This may include abortion where minority of opinions say it's haram under all circumstances, even though most are fine with it. As far as I'm aware I think it's was after like 6 months there is a consensus it's haram to abort. This is just abortion issue. Things like music was also divisive and opinions varied. That doesn't mean it's okay to listen to Nicki Minaj no one is saying that JFL.

 

[Greycel Slayer]

This thread is for getting advice and discussing with my Muslim brothers if I should get a girlfriend.

Life is going good. Being a good looking man who is studying in college and going through regular sightings of beautiful women, I'm getting strong feelings to get into a relationship that would satisfy my carnal desires, support me in my career and provide emotional support.

The problem is that I'm a Muslim who is practicing to some extent. The point is that I should not miss the chance of my youth days where I'm being complemented for my looks, I should definitely get a girlfriend and enjoy life because this time won't come back. But in contrast, I should not indulge in haram just to enjoy few years of my life and risk my afterlife by getting punished in the hereafter. This is the form of ambivalence I'm going through. However, here's another point, get a girlfriend and get into LTR and repenting later - as God is forgiving and merciful. But there's a chance that I could die anytime being indulged in haram and not getting a chance to repent, as God forgives everything but only before death and death is unpredictable. It totally depends on the unseen future. This is a temptation and a test. If I pass this test I would be rewarded in this life and hereafter, marrying a pious beautiful woman and enjoying in the hereafter. But what if I enjoy in both lives? Getting a girlfriend, enjoying and repenting later and also quiting haram by marrying and leading a pious life. There is also a high chance of forgiveness if I make sincere repentance, but it might not be guaranteed. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said paradise is full of sinners who repented. Also don't forget that Satan might be involved in these temptations. What should I do guys? I'm stuck.

Seeking an advice from the people of my Muslim brotherhood on the forum.

@Fiqh @SecularIslamist @RAMU KAKA

The messanger of Allah said:

A man is not alone with a woman but the third of them is Ash-Shaitan.

Usamah ibn Zayd reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I have not left a trial after me more harmful to men than women.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 5096, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2740

If you get a gf, start hanging out with her, cuddling and kissing, then wallahi, I swear by Allah you will do zina with her. No saint or sage, no matter how pious, can control himself in that scenerio and I doubt you are either of those.

What makes me so sure? Once you start cuddling, you'll then start to question the following:

"what is zina?"
"Is me ejaculing in her zina?"
"Can I masterbate to her?"

It's basic psychology, you will do everything in your power to get as close to the act as possible while justifying your decisions to yourself. Brother, even if it's not you who initiates it, if you are attractive, she will be the one to initiate it. At that point, you are done for. Your judgement will become clouded and you will end up regretting your decisions.

 

[Greycel Slayer]

Some issues have multiple opinions though and all of them may be valid. This may include abortion where minority of opinions say it's haram under all circumstances, even though most are fine with it. As far as I'm aware I think it's was after like 6 months there is a consensus it's haram to abort. This is just abortion issue. Things like music was also divisive and opinions varied. That doesn't mean it's okay to listen to Nicki Minaj no one is saying that JFL.

There are differences of opinion regarding music. However, those differences are not about its permissability but "what is considered music". The opinions only exist based on their differing interpretations of music or rather "music".

 

[SecularIslamist]

There are differences of opinion regarding music. However, those differences are not about its permissability but "what is considered music". The opinions only exist based on their differing interpretations of music or rather "music".

I'm pretty sure Yasir Qadhi considers music haram but he puts the issue in perspective

 

[Fiqh]

I'm pretty sure Yasir Qadhi considers music haram but he puts the issue in perspective

Bro, this guy is the last person to listen to

 

[SecularIslamist]

Bro, this guy is the last person to listen to

I don't like him either. But I'm not gonna ignore all of his opinions as they may be valid. I recall you saying the same thing when I criticised IslamQA.

 

[Fiqh]

I don't like him either. But I'm not gonna ignore all of his opinions as they may be valid. I recall you saying the same thing when I criticised IslamQA.

There's a complete difference between IslamQA.info and literal deviance from Yasir Qadhi, those two cannot be compared. Your criticism wasn't even valid.

Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah do warn against learning from people of innovation and laypeople can not effectively differentiate truth from falsehood, hence the notion of only taking the good is false and unsubstantiated.

We are talking about a heretic [زنديق] which is far worse than an innovator [مبتدع] in general.

 

[Greycel Slayer]

I'm pretty sure Yasir Qadhi considers music haram but he puts the issue in perspective

Well yea. Not gonna watch the video but I'm aware of the differeing opinions. Imam Ghazali talked about it as well. Again, all those opinions stem from not its permissibility but its very constitution.

 

[SecularIslamist]

There's a complete difference between IslamQA.info and literal deviance from Yasir Qadhi, those two cannot be compared. Your criticism wasn't even valid.

Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah do warn against learning from people of innovation and laypeople can not effectively differentiate truth from falsehood, hence the notion of only taking the good is false and unsubstantiated.

We are talking about a heretic [زنديق] which is far worse than an innovator [مبتدع] in general.

Even I don't takfir Yasir Qadhi. Fuck you're more Islamist than even me here

 

[SecularIslamist]

Well yea. Not gonna watch the video but I'm aware of the differeing opinions. Imam Ghazali talked about it as well. Again, all those opinions stem from not its permissibility but its very constitution.

 

[Fiqh]

Even I don't takfir Yasir Qadhi. Fuck you're more Islamist than even me here

If you were aware of his deviance, you wouldn't have referred to him as a source in the first place.

Here's a list of mashaayikh and students of knowledge repudiating Kazi:

• Brother Abu Ibraheem Hussnayn [Source] [Source2] [Source3]
• Shaykh Abu Usamah At-Thahabi
• Brother Daniel Haqiqatjou
• Brother Saajid Lipham
• Brother Muhammad Tim Humble
• Shaykh Tahir Wyatt
• Shaykh Jalal Abualrub
• Shaykh Assim Al Hakeem
• Brother Abdurrahman Hasan [Source2]
• Various mashaayikh and students of knowledge
• Shaykh Karim AbuZaid [Source2]
• Dr. Usamah al-'Utaybi

 

[SecularIslamist]

If you were aware of his deviance, you wouldn't have referred to him as a source in the first place.

Here's a list of mashaayikh and students of knowledge repudiating Kazi:

• Brother Abu Ibraheem Hussnayn [Source] [Source2] [Source3]
• Shaykh Abu Usamah At-Thahabi
• Brother Daniel Haqiqatjou
• Brother Saajid Lipham
• Brother Muhammad Tim Humble
• Shaykh Tahir Wyatt
• Shaykh Jalal Abualrub
• Shaykh Assim Al Hakeem
• Brother Abdurrahman Hasan [Source2]
• Various mashaayikh and students of knowledge
• Shaykh Karim AbuZaid [Source2]
• Dr. Usamah al-'Utaybi

Lol at using Daniel Haqiqajou and Saajid Lipmann as sources.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Yes, but question is can you?

 

[einzigartig]

I'm not saying it's permissible. I'm just saying society is so cucked and anti-marriage I have no other possibility. Even on Muzz most girls are liberal. When you come across a 'religious' girl they're salafi type and that's too much for me smh.

you mean society being anti marriage u also mean muslims? btw can you explain the liberal part

 

[SecularIslamist]

you mean society being anti marriage u also mean muslims?

No I mean society wide. Reluctance to commit and "date" a modern concept historically has delayed marriage. Also, education, economics (housing) has meant people are naturally getting married later.

btw can you explain the liberal part

On Muzz it's the same. That's why I say they're liberal. Although it's a "marriage"/matrimonial service people want to get married in like 2-4 years JFL.

Because of these reasons I guess many Muslims especially in the West engage in 'soft' harams.

 

[einzigartig]

That's the test. Companions of prophet were tested with battles and wars, we are tested with girls and porn.

Both forms of tests have high rewards.

also wanted to type something like that's a test but you already did, great
and to guard your private part except for your wives and slaves is important

 

[einzigartig]

No I mean society wide. Reluctance to commit and "date" a modern concept historically has delayed marriage. Also, education, economics (housing) has meant people are naturally getting married later.


On Muzz it's the same. That's why I say they're liberal. Although it's a "marriage"/matrimonial service people want to get married in like 2-4 years JFL.

Because of these reasons I guess many Muslims especially in the West engage in 'soft' harams.

ah ok but i just can't imagine being with a girl in a haram way tbh it is a big sin not worth

 

[SecularIslamist]

ah ok but i just can't imagine being with a girl in a haram way tbh it is a big sin not worth

Yeah. At least for me as long as I don't have sex I don't mind the sins which aren't so big. Like kissing and cuddling.

 

[Deleted member 45660]

just marry if you are practicing muslim

No chance of that in western countries. Just geomaxx to arabia and DO NOT COME BACK!!!