Should I get a palatal expander?

[theo]

Hey guys,

I've been mewing on and off for a couple months.
I'm satisfied because I can get the back part of my tongue up (I couldn't initially). My palate however is too narrow, my tongue cannot rest flat in the back, my teeth are in the way...
Also my tongue goes back down the minute I'm not consciously keeping it up.

It seems like some people say the palate will expand naturally with proper tongue posture after a while, and some say just get a palate expander.

Which option is better?
I'm 23 years old by the way, had braces from 14 to 16 (I also had my tonsils removed when I was like 4 if that's worth mentioning lol).

Thanks for your time.

 

[didntreadlol]

23 years old

 

[Abyss Dweller]

Palate expander is legit
Mewing at 23 is not

 

[theo]

Palate expander is legit
Mewing at 23 is not

Thanks for your answer, I think I'm going to look into expanders.
The only thing is, right now when I bite my teeth are aligned, if I get a palate expander that won't be the case anymore right?

 

[Abyss Dweller]

Thanks for your answer, I think I'm going to look into expanders.
The only thing is, right now when I bite my teeth are aligned, if I get a palate expander that won't be the case anymore right?

I'll get a palate expander too in 2020. But talk with an orthodontist first.
Probably, I'm not sure.

 

[theo]

I'll get a palate expander too in 2020. But talk with an orthodontist first.
Probably, I'm not sure.

Yeah for sure I need to consult with a professional, I'm just embarassed lol, imagine the scene

Orthodontist: why you want palate expander
Me: looksmaxing
Orthodontist: GTFO

 

[Abyss Dweller]

Yeah for sure I need to consult with a professional, I'm just embarassed lol, imagine the scene

Orthodontist: why you want palate expander
Me: looksmaxing
Orthodontist: GTFO

If your palate is narrow af, they should be obliged to give you one lol

My orthodontist is female but she's quite blackpilled, especially when it comes to tooth extraction. She refused to remove my wisdom teeth while others told me it's necessary. Haven't done anything to my teeth yet but i think she's trustworthy.

 

[theo]

If your palate is narrow af, they should be obliged to give you one lol

My orthodontist is female but she's quite blackpilled, especially when it comes to tooth extraction. She refused to remove my wisdom teeth while others told me it's necessary. Haven't done anything to my teeth yet but i think she's trustworthy.

Lucky you.

I'm going to make phone calls but I'm afraid most orthodontists will give an expander to adults only when the narrow palate causes health issues, whereas in my case it's just to look better

 

[Abyss Dweller]

Lucky you.

I'm going to make phone calls but I'm afraid most orthodontists will give an expander to adults only when the narrow palate causes health issues, whereas in my case it's just to look better

Try it out and tell me how it goes. I'm curious to know

 

[bossman]

get a palate expander online

 

[theo]

get a palate expander online

Aren't expanders metal appliances that must be installed by a professional? We're not talking about a plastic invisalign lol

 

[robtical]

Yes get it. Do share your experience

 

[Deleted member 1140]

thank god i have a crossbite and slight tmj problems (jaw making noises when i bite etc) i hope ill get an expander next year

 

[theo]

Yeah I'll let you guys know.

I'll make phone calls tomorrow to ask under what conditions they give expanders to adults, also how much would it cost.

 

[FatJattMofo]

Don’t stop mewing. Anyone who tell you to is retarded

 

[theo]

I can't keep my tongue up there though! Goes down as soon as I'm not focusing on it. How do people manage to keep it up I don't understand?

 

[Vitruvian]

u can try palate expander but i dont think any ortho is gonna do it on a 23y/o

 

[theo]

u can try palate expander but i dont think any ortho is gonna do it on a 23y/o

Right, that's what worries me... even if I'm willing to pay I can imagine them being stubborn and not doing it

 

[OCDMaxxing]

No you should not, because it will just tip your teeth. If palatal expanders worked without tipping teeth you would not have Von Moon's MSE invention.

 

[theo]

No you should not, because it will just tip your teeth. If palatal expanders worked without tipping teeth you would not have Von Moon's MSE invention.

So what do you suggest instead?

 

[CarlSagan96]

If your palate is narrow af, they should be obliged to give you one lol

My orthodontist is female but she's quite blackpilled, especially when it comes to tooth extraction. She refused to remove my wisdom teeth while others told me it's necessary. Haven't done anything to my teeth yet but i think she's trustworthy.

Probably a stupid question but will removing the wisdom teeth narrow your palate? My dentist told me I should schedule to have mine removed (I'm 18 btw) but I don't want to have my palate become narrower.

 

[theo]

If the dentist asks you to remove wisdom teeth that's a sign of a narrow palate. If your palate was wider there would be no need to take the wisdom teeth out. That's what I just read anyway.

Mine were extracted too, so I most likely have a narrow palate.
I just measured my intermolar width, I got 34mm

 

[OCDMaxxing]

So what do you suggest instead?

MSE+Facemask

 

[Abyss Dweller]

MSE+Facemask

Do they give MSEs to adults ?
Looks like another palate expander to me

 

[theo]

MSE+Facemask

MSE interesting, but it says shipping only in the US. I'm in Europe... even if I could get a starter pack here, from the pictures it looks like I would need a professional to install it right?


BTW I found this, inspiring stuff, he makes it clear that the expander is what made his palate wider, not mewing

I just made it to 39mm inter molar width and it's awsome!

39mm inter molar width is so awesome, it's a world apart from were I started at 34mm. It' amazing what 5mm (4.4mm to be exact) difference can make. Ev...

the-great-work.org

 

[OCDMaxxing]

Do they give MSEs to adults ?
Looks like another palate expander to me

Yes, MSE works in adults. No, it is not a simple palate expander. It screws with 4 screws on each side of palate so it achieves a split. If they don't achieve the split, they do surgically assisted division of palate to achieve it. Good stuff.

MSE interesting, but it says shipping only in the US. I'm in Europe... even if I could get a starter pack here, from the pictures it looks like I would need a professional to install it right?

There are a few specialists in Europe. Contact Von Moon directly to get their names.

BTW I found this, inspiring stuff, he makes it clear that the expander is what made his palate wider, not mewing

Great, how old is he? Orthos have told me repeatedly that in adults simple palate expander is not enough to expand upper jaw and bone instead of tipping teeth.

 

[theo]

Yes, MSE works in adults. No, it is not a simple palate expander. It screws with 4 screws on each side of palate so it achieves a split. If they don't achieve the split, they do surgically assisted division of palate to achieve it. Good stuff.

There are a few specialists in Europe. Contact Von Moon directly to get their names.

Great, how old is he? Orthos have told me repeatedly that in adults simple palate expander is not enough to expand upper jaw and bone instead of tipping teeth.

He's 35 years old. Used ALF. I looked it up online no sign of ALF either in my country. Maybe I should just go to London and ask Mew in person lol

 

[bossman]

palatal expanders can cause forward growth right?

 

[FailedAbortion]

palatal expanders can cause forward growth right?

Bump

 

[noprogressno]

Bump

No.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Talk to @nelson for MSE self install