Should i go the roid way?

[Arditi]

Im 17. My height is 6'3. Non NT and suffering from anxiety and depression. So basically i view looksmaxxing as choosing one path of who you want to become. Either dark-triadmaxx or prettyboymaxx or ogremaxx and etc. Ive seen many threads about loox and how he turned into big ogre, also grew insane facial bones. So what i am thinking about is - should i try to go his path?

Before you all say that ill get easily mogged by prettyboys from tiktok, yes i agree, but hear me out. I am relatively tall 6'3 and i have decent frame without that much of a mass. In my opinion, being tall+muscular gives you really big SMV because of dimorphism.

What do you guys think about such idea for an ascension? What should i try before going on like full roids?

Right now im looking at this stuff:
Test E
Deca/dbol
Mk677
CJC dac
Aromasin

How would this stuff affect me?

 

[EggKing]

Why nuke your collagen and hair while being 6'3? If you were a manlet i would get it but at your height it's useless

 

[Arditi]

Why nuke your collagen and hair while being 6'3? If you were a manlet i would get it but at your height it's useless

what exactly destroys it

 

[Arditi]

bump

 

[Deleted member 31560]

what exactly destroys it

gear nigga

 

[Gascgoine]

Why would you roid at 17? You literal brainlet just put a year or two into the gym and give yourself proper nutrition.

Stop being an insecure soyboy and lift some weights natty, nigga.

 

[Arditi]

Why would you roid at 17? You literal brainlet just put a year or two into the gym and give yourself proper nutrition.

Stop being an insecure soyboy and lift some weights natty, nigga.

retard i dont want to be natty. Natty lifters legit look like dyel. I want people to know that i lift when even being with shirt.

 

[dk7]

what exactly destroys it

Steroids fuck up your DHT(most of them and especially dbol). You should go the natty way at ur age, not only will you save yourself from paying for TRT for the rest of your life, you'll also avoid the effects of steroids, like permanent facial bone mutations and hair loss. And believe it or not, but after around 6 months into lifting, you'll have something like the Sneako build, which is way more aesthetic to girls, than gearheads like Bradley Martin or Chestbrah.

retard i dont want to be natty. Natty lifters legit look like dyel. I want people to know that i lift when even being with shirt.

That's the problem bro, girls wont fking care about anything else than a vtaper and a bit of muscle, the people who convinced you that you need to be huge even in clothes are retard bodybuilders, who think that the bigger they get the more girls will like them.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Just do SARMS cycles like every other teenager.

 

[5.5psl]

Yes you should
At 6'3 you'll never be able to have a body halo
Plenty of natty 6'3+ guys in my gym and 0 of them have a non dyel physique on shirt and 90% of them are dyel even shirtless despite training for 2+ years
Natty lifting is total waste of time

 

[Interested]

Yes you should
At 6'3 you'll never be able to have a body halo
Plenty of natty 6'3+ guys in my gym and 0 of them have a non dyel physique on shirt and 90% of them are dyel even shirtless despite training for 2+ years
Natty lifting is total waste of time

should I bother gymmaxing at 5'10, or do you think I will end up looking retarded? I was gymmaxed back when I was 5'7 and it wasn't bad tbh

 

[Arditi]

Steroids fuck up your DHT(most of them and especially dbol). You should go the natty way at ur age, not only will you save yourself from paying for TRT for the rest of your life, you'll also avoid the effects of steroids, like permanent facial bone mutations and hair loss. And believe it or not, but after around 6 months into lifting, you'll have something like the Sneako build, which is way more aesthetic to girls, than gearheads like Bradley Martin or Chestbrah.


That's the problem bro, girls wont fking care about anything else than a vtaper and a bit of muscle, the people who convinced you that you need to be huge even in clothes are retard bodybuilders, who think that the bigger they get the more girls will like them.

In my opinion, tall and jacked guy with average face has insane SMV. Much bigger than the same guy but without as much muscles. Also for hairloss and what not there is finasteride, minox.

 

[5.5psl]

should I bother gymmaxing at 5'10, or do you think I will end up looking retarded?

Yes you should gymmax
Everyone above 175 cm barefoot evening height should be roiding tbh
All guys in my gym with a half decent physique are roiding can't even imagine how some guys end up living their life's as a low t cuck when they have the option to literally just inject.

 

[Interested]

Yes you should gymmax
Everyone above 175 cm barefoot evening height should be roiding tbh
All guys in my gym with a half decent physique are roiding can't even imagine how some guys end up living their life's as a low t cuck when they have the option to literally just inject.

thing is, roiding won't do much if your t levels are average/normal, so for roids to work you have to inject high amount which also increases the risk of health related issues

 

[Arditi]

bbbbbut natty lifting is better!!! women dont like big muscles!!!!!
Theory that women only like minimal muscle applies if you are chadlite-htn.

 

[Arditi]

Just do SARMS cycles like every other teenager.

Sarms wont affect facial bones

 

[dk7]

In my opinion, tall and jacked guy with average face has insane SMV. Much bigger than the same guy but without as much muscles. Also for hairloss and what not there is finasteride, minox.

I mean maybe, its up to you to roid, but I was saying that from my experience, bcuz around 7 months into lifting, I had way more girls paying attention to me than before(or just straight up crushing). IMO, big muscles are mostly for the guys to 'mire, while on the other hand, leanness is for the girls.

 

[Deleted member 30843]

Im 17. My height is 6'3. Non NT and suffering from anxiety and depression. So basically i view looksmaxxing as choosing one path of who you want to become. Either dark-triadmaxx or prettyboymaxx or ogremaxx and etc. Ive seen many threads about loox and how he turned into big ogre, also grew insane facial bones. So what i am thinking about is - should i try to go his path?

Before you all say that ill get easily mogged by prettyboys from tiktok, yes i agree, but hear me out. I am relatively tall 6'3 and i have decent frame without that much of a mass. In my opinion, being tall+muscular gives you really big SMV because of dimorphism.

What do you guys think about such idea for an ascension? What should i try before going on like full roids?

Right now im looking at this stuff:
Test E
Deca/dbol
Mk677
CJC dac
Aromasin

How would this stuff affect me?

take estrogen to androgynymaxx

 

[Arditi]

@5.5psl do you maybe remember what exactly did loox take?

 

[Deleted member 31971]

Yes I would , I might do because it gives dimorphism benefits

 

[Arditi]

What could be a good blackpilled roid cycle that could ascend me?

 

[arabcelxxx]

Tales

 

[Gascgoine]

retard i dont want to be natty. Natty lifters legit look like dyel. I want people to know that i lift when even being with shirt.

You realize that the whole "sleeper build" and "shirt on no one can tell I lift" thing is a total meme, right?

Most of the people that do roids look worse than natty bodybuilders. If you look on this forum even you'll find that many of the natty users look fucking jacked and lean af from just natural bodybuilding over the course of a year or two. The roids shortcut is not worth it unless you're planning to cheat your way to sports scholarships or want to compete as a bodybuilder and even then why not build a good baseline physique?

Its also definitely not worth it at 17. You're not just stunting your physical growth but your mental growth too. You're basically making yourself retarded with roids.

 

[Foreverbrad]

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bbbbbut natty lifting is better!!! women dont like big muscles!!!!!
Theory that women only like minimal muscle applies if you are chadlite-htn.

3 grams of tren?

The diminishing returns on this stuff are horrific.

Going from hypogonadal bottom 2% test to a TRT dose lets me maintain at 85kg lean which is a great improvement on the 75kg I could hold before. It’s still not a good physique though, it’s barely passable by todays standards and most girls don’t even think I work out.


Not sure what would happen if I blasted 3 grams of tren apart from health issues. Maybe my last resort if surgery maxxing doesn’t give me the results I want.

 

[redfacccee]

3 grams of tren?

The diminishing returns on this stuff are horrific.

Going from hypogonadal bottom 2% test to a TRT dose lets me maintain at 85kg lean which is a great improvement on the 75kg I could hold before. It’s still not a good physique though, it’s barely passable by todays standards and most girls don’t even think I work out.


Not sure what would happen if I blasted 3 grams of tren apart from health issues. Maybe my last resort if surgery maxxing doesn’t give me the results I want.

you actually think he did 3 grams of tren

 

[Foreverbrad]

you actually think he did 3 grams of tren

Probably more like 3mL of tren but who knows. Guys are cagey about this.

 

[redfacccee]

Probably more like 3mL of tren but who knows. Guys are cagey about this.

no im pointing out that you're likely autistic... it's sarcasm

 

[Foreverbrad]

no im pointing out that you're likely autistic... it's sarcasm

I’ve blasted over a gram and had no real effects…

No tren for my autism though. Thanks for twisting that knife.

 

[redfacccee]

I’ve blasted over a gram and had no real effects…

No tren for my autism though. Thanks for twisting that knife.

no real effects? you mean side effects? i have too but im suspecting my tren was something else, i got my first stretch marks on that cycle, water retention and bloat, high cals + test with no AI. put on 20kg from being a twink

 

[m0ss26]

Im 17. My height is 6'3. Non NT and suffering from anxiety and depression. So basically i view looksmaxxing as choosing one path of who you want to become. Either dark-triadmaxx or prettyboymaxx or ogremaxx and etc. Ive seen many threads about loox and how he turned into big ogre, also grew insane facial bones. So what i am thinking about is - should i try to go his path?

Before you all say that ill get easily mogged by prettyboys from tiktok, yes i agree, but hear me out. I am relatively tall 6'3 and i have decent frame without that much of a mass. In my opinion, being tall+muscular gives you really big SMV because of dimorphism.

What do you guys think about such idea for an ascension? What should i try before going on like full roids?

Right now im looking at this stuff:
Test E
Deca/dbol
Mk677
CJC dac
Aromasin

How would this stuff affect me?

Cjc and mk is fine although it won’t do THAT much for you bodybuilding wise. Deca and test will but the sides are much worse

 

[Deleted member 40986]

Im 17. My height is 6'3. Non NT and suffering from anxiety and depression. So basically i view looksmaxxing as choosing one path of who you want to become. Either dark-triadmaxx or prettyboymaxx or ogremaxx and etc. Ive seen many threads about loox and how he turned into big ogre, also grew insane facial bones. So what i am thinking about is - should i try to go his path?

Before you all say that ill get easily mogged by prettyboys from tiktok, yes i agree, but hear me out. I am relatively tall 6'3 and i have decent frame without that much of a mass. In my opinion, being tall+muscular gives you really big SMV because of dimorphism.

What do you guys think about such idea for an ascension? What should i try before going on like full roids?

Right now im looking at this stuff:
Test E
Deca/dbol
Mk677
CJC dac
Aromasin

How would this stuff affect me?

If absolutely neccessaey yes

 

[futureashtray]

Why nuke your collagen and hair while being 6'3? If you were a manlet i would get it but at your height it's useless

He is a manlet jfl

 

[EggKing]

He is a manlet jfl

7´0 or death

 

[barnmatrix]

Why would you roid at 17? You literal brainlet just put a year or two into the gym and give yourself proper nutrition.

Stop being an insecure soyboy and lift some weights natty, nigga.

i think his goal is to take roids for facial structure not for physique

 

[barnmatrix]

I mean maybe, its up to you to roid, but I was saying that from my experience, bcuz around 7 months into lifting, I had way more girls paying attention to me than before(or just straight up crushing). IMO, big muscles are mostly for the guys to 'mire, while on the other hand, leanness is for the girls.

bumping this, agreed bro, but he may be taking the roids for facial structure

 

[barnmatrix]

Im 17. My height is 6'3. Non NT and suffering from anxiety and depression. So basically i view looksmaxxing as choosing one path of who you want to become. Either dark-triadmaxx or prettyboymaxx or ogremaxx and etc. Ive seen many threads about loox and how he turned into big ogre, also grew insane facial bones. So what i am thinking about is - should i try to go his path?

Before you all say that ill get easily mogged by prettyboys from tiktok, yes i agree, but hear me out. I am relatively tall 6'3 and i have decent frame without that much of a mass. In my opinion, being tall+muscular gives you really big SMV because of dimorphism.

What do you guys think about such idea for an ascension? What should i try before going on like full roids?

Right now im looking at this stuff:
Test E
Deca/dbol
Mk677
CJC dac
Aromasin

How would this stuff affect me?

just know that at 17 you still have the potential to gain height, and taking roids would stop that unless you take a bunch of aromasin which will lower your IQ if taken in conjunction with roids. If your happy with your height and wanted to take roids for facial structure that is the only valid use case imo, for muscle its not worth it.

 

[Kirby7000]

just know that at 17 you still have the potential to gain height, and taking roids would stop that unless you take a bunch of aromasin which will lower your IQ if taken in conjunction with roids. If your happy with your height and wanted to take roids for facial structure that is the only valid use case imo, for muscle its not worth it.

Which roids increase face bone

 

[barnmatrix]

Which roids increase face bone

test and dht

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Steroids fuck up your DHT(most of them and especially dbol). You should go the natty way at ur age, not only will you save yourself from paying for TRT for the rest of your life, you'll also avoid the effects of steroids, like permanent facial bone mutations and hair loss. And believe it or not, but after around 6 months into lifting, you'll have something like the Sneako build, which is way more aesthetic to girls, than gearheads like Bradley Martin or Chestbrah.


That's the problem bro, girls wont fking care about anything else than a vtaper and a bit of muscle, the people who convinced you that you need to be huge even in clothes are retard bodybuilders, who think that the bigger they get the more girls will like them.

Who care about girl lol ?

 

[Deleted member 8365]

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bbbbbut natty lifting is better!!! women dont like big muscles!!!!!
Theory that women only like minimal muscle applies if you are chadlite-htn.

the average IQ on this forum is 85 , I swear bro

 

[pcmaxing]

Just eat more and work out . Your testosterone levels are high AF at 17.. you don’t need steroids to grow.

 

[7zyzz7]

Im 17.

no

 

[inwardgonionscel]

gear nigga

Will just enclomophine nuke mine ? I have 400 ng/dl test at 16 peak puberty and libido fuck it may explain why i feel like death everyday, was looking into enclo but don't want to nuke collagen what do u think?

 

[inwardgonionscel]

Just eat more and work out . Your testosterone levels are high AF at 17.. you don’t need steroids to grow.

I have 400ng/dl at 16 peak puberty and libido may explain depression and shitty muscle building.. Will taking enclomophine with sarms (Ostarine, 4033, S23 and maybe Rad) rape my collagen and hair ?

 

[pcmaxing]

I have 400ng/dl at 16 peak puberty and libido may explain depression and shitty muscle building.. Will taking enclomophine with sarms (Ostarine, 4033, S23 and maybe Rad) rape my collagen and hair ?

No expert on sarms. But steroids speed up hair loss , so if its in the genes you will lose your hair faster

 

[pcmaxing]

No expert on sarms. But steroids speed up hair loss , so if its in the genes you will lose your hair faster. If you arent predetermined to lose hair it isn’t a concern imo

 

[inwardgonionscel]

No expert on sarms. But steroids speed up hair loss , so if its in the genes you will lose your hair faster

What about collagen man ? I'm scared of loosing collagen not gonna lie and will Enclomophine have those bad effects that pinning test has ?

 

[Deleted member 31560]

Will just enclomophine nuke mine ? I have 400 ng/dl test at 16 peak puberty and libido fuck it may explain why i feel like death everyday, was looking into enclo but don't want to nuke collagen what do u think?

might be worth speaking to a real endocrinologist/doctor about it. You could have some other chronic health issue that is suppressing your test levels and this low count is only a symptom of.

 

[inwardgonionscel]

might be worth speaking to a real endocrinologist/doctor about it. You could have some other chronic health issue that is suppressing your test levels and this low count is only a symptom of.

I talked to two endocrinologists and both of those jews said my bloodwork is good, i said isn't that way too low for someone in puberty they said no don't worry it's over