Should I leanmax?

[BoredPrince]

Obviously when I'm lean I look better (water ik) but then I look feminine

I ascended when I was younger, I was kinda pretty boy, but skinny and looked like 16, also I got some hate from guys and even "friends"

I'm 22, obviously I wanna ascend but be gl and masculine at the same time, for that I need muscles, meaning I need to bulk (bulking rn) which makes me look worse

The choice atm is be feminine and gl, or masculine and MTN, any advice?

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[MoggerGaston]

yes

 

[BoredPrince]

yes

Was looking more for opinion or longer answer, but this works too thanks

 

[Artemis]

Obviously when I'm lean I look better (water ik) but then I look feminine

I ascended when I was younger, I was kinda pretty boy, but skinny and looked like 16, also I got some hate from guys and even "friends"

I'm 22, obviously I wanna ascend but be gl and masculine at the same time, for that I need muscles, meaning I need to bulk (bulking rn) which makes me look worse

The choice atm is be feminine and gl, or masculine and MTN, any advice?

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@MoggerGaston
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@colesp
@SaintOverBuddyBoyo
@Nomad
@Sprinkles
@zv1212
@Artemis
@Reformed

If you cannot be gl + feminine with muscles, means you were never good looking in the first place...

THe only thing that can descend looks is if you literally get fat (not recommendable) or start pinning (muscular in exchange for skin quality and hair)

 

[Deleted member 21531]

Permabulk

 

[Deleted member 22553]

Staying lean and gl is the better option. Unless you're really small or you just want to get bigger, staying lean is always the move. I was big for the longest time until I realized I was coping with the gym and it wasn't actually getting me what I wanted, more female attention. This is all water but just try a lean bulk, eat mostly protein, make sure you get enough fiber, cut out sugar, and watch your sodium intake

 

[BoredPrince]

If you cannot be gl + feminine with muscles, means you were never good looking in the first place...

THe only thing that can descend looks is if you literally get fat (not recommendable) or start pinning (muscular in exchange for skin quality and hair)

I was gl + feminine just at the time I didn't work out, I looked feminine most in my face tbh

What can I do to make my face more masculine?

 

[Artemis]

I was gl + feminine just at the time I didn't work out, I looked feminine most in my face tbh

What can I do to make my face more masculine?

Like... wait for 10 years and age?

 

[BoredPrince]

Staying lean and gl is the better option. Unless you're really small or you just want to get bigger, staying lean is always the move. I was big for the longest time until I realized I was coping with the gym and it wasn't actually getting me what I wanted, more female attention. This is all water but just try a lean bulk, eat mostly protein, make sure you get enough fiber, cut out sugar, and watch your sodium intake

Yeah I know all about gym maxing I just didn't work out at that time, I do now

My biggest concern is that I looked feminine and too young in the face, body isn't much of a problem now since I made good progress in the gym

 

[BoredPrince]

Like... wait for 10 years and age?

Idk man, might go ER by then

 

[Deleted member 22553]

Yeah I know all about gym maxing I just didn't work out at that time, I do now

My biggest concern is that I looked feminine and too young in the face, body isn't much of a problem now since I made good progress in the gym

Looking feminine won't be a problem if you're jacked and not a manlet, younger foids like guys with prettier faces.

 

[BoredPrince]

Looking feminine won't be a problem if you're jacked and not a manlet, younger foids like guys with prettier faces.

Yeah I know, back then I got plenty of attention from JBs

The only thing that sucks is, I got hate from other guys and friends, that is: no respect

 

[Deleted member 22553]

Yeah I know, back then I got plenty of attention from JBs

The only thing that sucks is, I got hate from other guys and friends, that is: no respect

I have a feminine face too but I'm a bit older than you and yeah I've noticed less respect but who gaf. Anyone who's mad about you improving your looks and actually getting girls isn't worth keeping around. They just want to see you fail

 

[BoredPrince]

I have a feminine face too but I'm a bit older than you and yeah I've noticed less respect but who gaf. Anyone who's mad about you improving your looks and actually getting girls isn't worth keeping around

I know what you mean but I was still kinda hoping I could be masculine and gl at the same time, idk I was planning on doing roids later anyway, they might help with masculinity

 

[Deleted member 22553]

I know what you mean but I was still kinda hoping I could be masculine and gl at the same time, idk I was planning on doing roids later anyway, they might help with masculinity

I'd avoid roids until youre in your 30s unless you have 90th percentile hair and collagen genetics. They age the shit out of you, make you go bald, and your whole endocrine system is fucked at least for a while even if you get off them properly with a PCT

 

[BoredPrince]

I'd avoid roids until youre in your 30s unless you have 90th percentile hair and collagen genetics. They age the shit out of you, make you go bald, and your whole endocrine system is fucked at least for a while even if you get off them properly with a PCT

I did my research, aging part is like only if you abuse them for years (more plates more dates has a good video on the topic)

I'm on Finasteride anyway and I can always get hair transplant

And of course I would do PCT, I wouldn't go too high with doses

 

[Splinter901]

Go er nigger

 

[sanctificatus]

You'll always look better with more muscles, you can be better + leaner later

 

[BoredPrince]

You'll always look better with more muscles, you can be better + leaner later

Maybe you're right

 

[BoredPrince]

Go er nigger

I'm White

Now I wonder why I tagged you

 

[Splinter901]

I'm White

Now I wonder why I tagged you

R u autistic?

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Was looking more for opinion or longer answer, but this works too thanks

Nigger, you provided no pictures and you expect us to give long exhaustive answers ?

 

[BoredPrince]

Nigger, you provided no pictures and you expect us to give long exhaustive answers ?

That's because I didn't want to post any pictures, I was just looking for opinions in general, meaning if you were in my situation what would you choose

1. Gym maxed but bloated and high fat
2. Or leanmax, small and feminine

But doesn't matter now, I already asked someone to rate me

 

[BoredPrince]

R u autistic?

Are you? I was just asking for opinions, if you have nothing to contribute then fuck off

 

[zerotohero]

 

[Splinter901]

Are you? I was just asking for opinions, if you have nothing to contribute then fuck off

Lol y the fuch u tag me retard? U r definitively autistic given that u replied to the nigger part literally.

 

[BoredPrince]

Lol y the fuch u tag me retard? U r definitively autistic given that u replied to the nigger part literally.

Whatever, I know better now

 

[sanctificatus]

That's because I didn't want to post any pictures, I was just looking for opinions in general, meaning if you were in my situation what would you choose

1. Gym maxed but bloated and high fat
2. Or leanmax, small and feminine

But doesn't matter now, I already asked someone to rate me

Who said it had to be one or the other

 

[BoredPrince]

Who said it had to be one or the other

You're right I don't have to go to extremes, I could lean bulk

But here on .org seems like there's no middle

 

[Deleted member 27729]

Anyone should Leanmaxx , it's objectively better

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Anyone should Leanmaxx , it's objectively better

 

[sanctificatus]

You're right I don't have to go to extremes, I could lean bulk

But here on .org seems like there's no middle

look at it objectively, you gain muscle in a surplus, fat gain is unavoidable but is temporary, focus on the positive aspects: muscle gain, gym performance, you are "building" your physique, you cannot diet yourself to a great physique

therefore, after youve accumulated enough muscle mass, you could easily diet down or fluctuate between bf%s for whatever look you'd prefer

 

[BoredPrince]

look at it objectively, you gain muscle in a surplus, fat gain is unavoidable but is temporary, focus on the positive aspects: muscle gain, gym performance, you are "building" your physique, you cannot diet yourself to a great physique

therefore, after youve accumulated enough muscle mass, you could easily diet down or fluctuate between bf%s for whatever look you'd prefer

Yeah but that temporary lasts as long as bulk, which is usually several months, and yeah sure I look better on a cut but after that comes bulk again

So it's just cycles of bulk and cut, which unavoidable influences one attractiveness, but I guess there's no way around it if I want to build my physique

 

[blite]

I pulled girls I didn’t think I could pull when I was lean but I wanted to feel more “manly” so I started going to the gym and went for a bulk and got overweight like a dumbass and felt like shit. However, It was worth in the end though especially when you go back to cutting. Sacrifice facial aesthetics for the good body, it’s only temporary. You should absolutely bulk, just make sure not to over do it or “dirty bulk“ like me or it’s just more fat you have to burn in the cut process and you’ll feel and look like garbage. Slight caloric surplus.

 

[BoredPrince]

I pulled girls I didn’t think I could pull when I was lean but I wanted to feel more “manly” so I started going to the gym and went for a bulk and got overweight like a dumbass and felt like shit. However, It was worth in the end though especially when you go back to cutting. Sacrifice facial aesthetics for the good body, it’s only temporary. You should absolutely bulk, just make sure not to over do it or “dirty bulk“ like me or it’s just more fat you have to burn in the cut process and you’ll feel and look like garbage. Slight caloric surplus.

Thx for the insight