Should I learn C as my first programming language?

[Deleted member 135388]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

 

[SubhumanEyes]

@Naticel u should know something ab this o algo

 

[subhuman929]

if you are currycel then learn to code, if not then HELL NO

 

[skullmog]

idk but i used lua for roblox

 

[Primal.]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

go with python ig

 

[Deleted member 135388]

if you are currycel then learn to code, if not then HELL NO

I am not ethnic, but I still wanna make some money like them Indians. JFL I should start a low budget phone tech guru YouTube channel

 

[KT-34]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

Nah python is trash, it's slow doesnt allow for much control, the reason it's popular is cause it's easy to learn and the reason it's easy to learn is cause it has nothing going for it

C goes much deeper, matter of fact most of the useful libraries in python are written in C

 

[Deleted member 135388]

idk but i used lua for roblox

Roblox Studio doesnt sound too bad, its fun as well

 

[Deleted member 135388]

Nah python is trash, it's slow doesnt allow for much control, the reason it's popular is cause it's easy to learn and the reason it's easy to learn is cause it has nothing going for it

C goes much deeper, matter of fact most of the useful libraries in python are written in C

You got any site I can learn on? I found Codedex, but theres no C there, only C++

 

[subhuman929]

I am not ethnic, but I still wanna make some money like them Indians. JFL I should start a low budget phone tech guru YouTube channel

good luck competing with indians, they will work night and day coding their life a way to get Visa to even touch a white woman

 

[Deleted member 135388]

good luck competing with indians, they will work night and day coding their life a way to get Visa to even touch a white woman

If you cant beat them, join them I am moving to Kolkata today

 

[skullmog]

Roblox Studio doesnt sound too bad, its fun as well

yeah but i never really made many games i just exploited
i helped my friends make games tho.

 

[subhuman929]

If you cant beat them, join them I am moving to Kolkata today

i just know you are jestermaxxer irl, jfl.

 

[Deleted member 135388]

i just know you are jestermaxxer irl, jfl.

Bingo boyo (fakecel side of me coping rn)

 

[Zeekie]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

Never start with C. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER. Do Python first, only then are you allowed to torture yourself.

 

[Deleted member 135388]

Never start with C. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER. Do Python first, only then are you allowed to torture yourself.

It cant be that bad now come on

 

[Zeekie]

It cant be that bad now come on

Have you ever coded before? If not, then just start with Python, there are tons of resources, and it's a very mild introduction to coding. It's also very used, I would even go as far as saying that it is slowly gaining territory on C because most AI is written in Python.

Regardless, I would recommend you learn both anyway if you want to be a complete developer. And if you're going to learn both, start with Python and then deal with C, because the learning curve is much steeper. Not to say it's impossible, you would just enjoy learning to code so much if you do it that way.

 

[Deleted member 135388]

Have you ever coded before? If not, then just start with Python, there are tons of resources, and it's a very mild introduction to coding. It's also very used, I would even go as far as saying that it is slowly gaining territory on C because most AI is written in Python.

Regardless, I would recommend you learn both anyway if you want to be a complete developer. And if you're going to learn both, start with Python and then deal with C, because the learning curve is much steeper. Not to say it's impossible, you would just enjoy learning to code so much if you do it that way.

Alright, thank you! Im not the best at maths tho, so I dont think Ill go really far with programming

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I don't understand this type of questions, “what should be my first programming language?? C or python” (two big different programming languages, very different, for very different purposes)

My question to you is, what do you wanna learn? Which things do you wanna make? Easy scripts? Windows programs?? What is you goal

Nah python is trash, it's slow doesnt allow for much control, the reason it's popular is cause it's easy to learn and the reason it's easy to learn is cause it has nothing going for it

C goes much deeper, matter of fact most of the useful libraries in python are written in C

You got any site I can learn on? I found Codedex, but theres no C there, only C++

Never learn C, learn C++
C is for dumb neanderthals, C++ is the new thing!

Never start with C. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER. Do Python first, only then are you allowed to torture yourself.

No i know him, he good very good genes. He is smart

 

[Zeekie]

Alright, thank you! Im not the best at maths tho, so I dont think Ill go really far with programming

If you're interested, though, here's how I got ahead before starting my CS degree. CS50's Introduction to Programming with Python → CS50: Introduction to Computer Science → MIT OCW Mathematics for Computer Science.

Math for CS is not really that complicated unless you get into very specific fields like algorithms or cryptography, in which case, you're fucked. It's mostly basic algebra and being honest AI can do most of the heavy lifting for you in that area, you just need basic understanding, then just fill in your gaps as you go with AI and YouTube.

 

[Deleted member 135388]

I don't understand this type of questions, “what should be my first programming language?? C or python” (two big different programming languages, very different)

My question to you is, what do you wanna learn? Which things do you wanna make? Easy scripts? Windows programs?? What is you goal

I want to learn basic coding/programming needed for school or to learn it as a useful skill. I did not think about what I wanna code yet, I just want to learn the languages first and then think about what way Ill go.

Never learn C, learn C++
C is for dumb neanderthals, C++ is the new thing!

C++ is easier than C I heard

No i know him, he good very good genes. He is smart

Is that for me? Thank you, we both smart gang

 

[Deleted member 135388]

If you're interested, though, here's how I got ahead before starting my CS degree. CS50's Introduction to Programming with Python → CS50: Introduction to Computer Science → MIT OCW Mathematics for Computer Science.

Math for CS is not really that complicated unless you get into very specific fields like algorithms or cryptography, in which case, you're fucked. It's mostly basic algebra and being honest AI can do most of the heavy lifting for you in that area, you just need basic understanding, then just fill in your gaps as you go with AI and YouTube.

Thank you. Ye I just wanna learn the basics tbh. AI will probably replace us, but its still good to learn as a skill

 

[NotAMogger]

Unis usually teach their students Python first, and then teach them C.

 

[Zeekie]

Thank you. Ye I just wanna learn the basics tbh. AI will probably replace us, but its still good to learn as a skill

If that's your goal? Then yeah, the CS50 course on Python is 100% free and will give you basic understanding and skills. If you end up liking it you can continue

 

[KT-34]

I don't understand this type of questions, “what should be my first programming language?? C or python” (two big different programming languages, very different, for very different purposes)

My question to you is, what do you wanna learn? Which things do you wanna make? Easy scripts? Windows programs?? What is you goal




Never learn C, learn C++
C is for dumb neanderthals, C++ is the new thing!


No i know him, he good very good genes. He is smart

C is good as a first programming language you cover all the basics


Though I agree C++ is more useful, still you can easily switch to C++ if you're good at C

 

[KT-34]

You got any site I can learn on? I found Codedex, but theres no C there, only C++

Personally I just learned by solving problems on leetcode and doing college assignments

 

[cute]

You got any site I can learn on? I found Codedex, but theres no C there, only C++

go with c++

 

[Giorgio]

easily switch to C++ if you're good at C

 

[KT-34]

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I did it I don't know why it'd be complicated for others

 

[Giorgio]

I did it I don't know why it'd be complicated for others

if you truly did it, then you wouldn't even say such a silly sentence

 

[KT-34]

if you truly did it, then you wouldn't even say such a silly sentence

I don't see how it's silly, when you figure out the basics of programming and algorithmics all languages become easy to learn as it's just a matter of time

I didn't say C and C++ are similar I said learning C helps you learn other programming languages easily if you're good at it


It's like learning Latin first, from it you can learn other languages, it gives you the blueprint

 

[Giorgio]

I don't see how it's silly, when you figure out the basics of programming and algorithmics all languages become easy to learn as it's just a matter of time

I didn't say C and C++ are similar I said learning C helps you learn other programming languages easily if you're good at it


It's like learning Latin first, from it you can learn other languages, it gives you the blueprint

you said "easily switch to c++"

it's silly because c++ is so much more massive than c, and what you said is a common misconception, however if you'd apply to a c++ position while let's say being decent at c and knowing some c++ basics, you'd fail miserably
a strong c programmer would still have to expend significant/tremendous effort, if he wanted to get his c++ skillset to the same level as his c

but yeah sure of course knowing c helps

 

[wsada]

I think @Jason Voorhees is in this stuff

 

[KT-34]

you said "easily switch to c++"

it's silly because c++ is so much more massive than c, and what you said is a common misconception, however if you'd apply to a c++ position while let's say being decent at c and knowing some c++ basics, you'd fail miserably
a strong c programmer would still have to expend significant/tremendous effort, if he wanted to get his c++ skillset to the same level as his c

but yeah sure of course knowing c helps

When I say learn I mean learn the basics to the point where you can say you know how to code in said language, you don't really ever stop learning programming

Obviously at a very high level they are fundamentally different, but it's not something new learners have to think about yet

 

[Giorgio]

When I say learn I mean learn the basics to the point where you can say you know how to code in said language, you don't really ever stop learning programming

Obviously at a very high level they are fundamentally different, but it's not something new learners have to think about yet

sure, but this is still lacking enterprise perspective - if your companies codebase compiles c++ under let's say c++20, you more or less need to know all (or at least all the major and used) c++20 features

because if your knowledge of the language is lacking (so like a c programmer thinking he can tackle c++ because "it's similar enough"), then you will get hit with a double combo of facing all the complexity of the language and it's features, and all the complexity of the business/domain specific logic (aka the problem the codebase it's trying to solve) at the same time (and usually c++ codebases tend to be complex af, because nobody is doing simple crud shit in c++, you pick up c++ to do "real programming")
when both hit you at the same time, you won't be able to understand the domain/business specific stuff because you have trouble reading the code, and you won't be able to understand the purpose of the code by deriving it from the knowledge of "what it's supposed to do" because you don't fucking know since you're new and weren't there when the whole codebase/sytem was first built, which in a way creates a catch 22...
(and that's not even talking about build systems and the various dependencies used...)

ask me how I know

btw is that fang yuan on your fpf

 

[KT-34]

sure, but this is still lacking enterprise perspective - if your companies codebase compiles c++ under let's say c++20, you more or less need to know all (or at least all the major and used) c++20 features

because if your knowledge of the language is lacking (so like a c programmer thinking he can tackle c++ because "it's similar enough"), then you will get hit with a double combo of facing all the complexity of the language and it's features, and all the complexity of the business/domain specific logic (aka the problem the codebase it's trying to solve) at the same time (and usually c++ codebases tend to be complex af, because nobody is doing simple crud shit in c++, you pick up c++ to do "real programming")
when both hit you at the same time, you won't be able to understand the domain/business specific stuff because you have trouble reading the code, and you won't be able to understand the purpose of the code by deriving it from the knowledge of "what it's supposed to do" because you don't fucking know since you're new and weren't there when the whole codebase/sytem was first built, which in a way creates a catch 22...
(and that's not even talking about build systems and the various dependencies used...)

ask me how I know

btw is that fang yuan on your fpf

I mean OP is asking about learning languages so this years ahead, still good to consider but it's better to focus on basics to not get distracted

I'm guessing you worked in a company for a few years


And yes it is fang yuan lol

 

[penaldinho]

sure, but this is still lacking enterprise perspective - if your companies codebase compiles c++ under let's say c++20, you more or less need to know all (or at least all the major and used) c++20 features

because if your knowledge of the language is lacking (so like a c programmer thinking he can tackle c++ because "it's similar enough"), then you will get hit with a double combo of facing all the complexity of the language and it's features, and all the complexity of the business/domain specific logic (aka the problem the codebase it's trying to solve) at the same time (and usually c++ codebases tend to be complex af, because nobody is doing simple crud shit in c++, you pick up c++ to do "real programming")
when both hit you at the same time, you won't be able to understand the domain/business specific stuff because you have trouble reading the code, and you won't be able to understand the purpose of the code by deriving it from the knowledge of "what it's supposed to do" because you don't fucking know since you're new and weren't there when the whole codebase/sytem was first built, which in a way creates a catch 22...
(and that's not even talking about build systems and the various dependencies used...)

ask me how I know

btw is that fang yuan on your fpf

Terry Davis ah user

 

[ihateexplaining]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

don’t. coding lowers T and increases MPB by up to 200%.

 

[Deleted member 135388]

don’t. coding lowers T and increases MPB by up to 200%.

Not that I have much of T anyways

 

[Dot1]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

Nigga learn LUAU and start taking commisions, people pay heavy for scripters

 

[ihateexplaining]

Not that I have much of T anyways

In your case you might be fully feminized if you write one line of code.

 

[Deleted member 135388]

Nigga learn LUAU and start taking commisions, people pay heavy for scripters

So Roblox Studio?

 

[Deleted member 135388]

In your case you might be fully feminized if you write one line of code.

Too late gang

 

[Dot1]

So Roblox Studio?

Yeah, there's people making 10 grand atleast from scripting and all they do is spend it on robux for christs sake

 

[Deleted member 135388]

Yeah, there's people making 10 grand atleast from scripting and all they do is spend it on robux for christs sake

I wanted to give up on all games, but I might install Roblox Studio at least

 

[Dot1]

I wanted to give up on all games, but I might install Roblox Studio at least

Trust me, game comissions

 

[SwissSub1]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

hell nah, not C nor Python, Java is based asf

 

[AuraMaxxing]

Python then Java then C

It’s a really good order in my opinion if you eventually want to get to C since python is the easiest in the sense it’s high level yet you don’t have to worry too much about key details, Java you have to take care of more details and then C is where you actually have to allocate space and use pointers too so it’ll be the most confusing at first.

Really good to do ARM in between Java and C as well it will make you good at pointers and understanding how memory works

This isn’t just a random structure I created btw, this is the way it’s being taught in my uni

 

[deleteduser]

Or should I go with Python?
@KT-34

depends what u wanna do but before u learn a coding language learn html and css first imo