Should I pin test?

[Napoleon1800]

Just done a total testosterone blood test and I got 560 ng/dL

I was thinking of pinning test to grow my frame and put on muscle mass

Should I?

 

[Napoleon1800]

I also suffer from low testosterone symptoms as well so I think my free t is probably low as hell

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

bro i helped you in dms before, no offence with your face with test bloat would be fucked

 

[Napoleon1800]

bro i helped you in dms before, no offence with your face with test bloat would be fucked

Bloat from test isnt exactly a concern since I have nothing to lose in that department, it’s not like I’m getting any benefits from my face to care about bloating jfl

I just want to try and fix up my body and the fact that I am and feel like a low t little nigga

 

[Whirr22222]

Yeah do 300 first taper up to 600 I promise it isnt as bad as you think. Use 29g needles in ur side delts, and get bloods 5ish weeks after first pin and decide if u want to use an AI from there, but u should be fine if u daily pin.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yeah do 300 first taper up to 600 I promise it isnt as bad as you think. Use 29g needles in ur side delts.

Why would I inject directly into my delts test isnt localised is it?

And what ester?

 

[Copercel]

Just done a total testosterone blood test and I got 560 ng/dL

I was thinking of pinning test to grow my frame and put on muscle mass

Should I?

Yes

 

[Whirr22222]

Why would I inject directly into my delts test isnt localised is it?

And what ester?

Delts is the easiest place. Or ventroglutes but its harder to find for some beginners. Use prop if u can (must use daily pins for that) or test e is probably fine.

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

Bloat from test isnt exactly a concern since I have nothing to lose in that department, it’s not like I’m getting any benefits from my face to care about bloating jfl

I just want to try and fix up my body and the fact that I am and feel like a low t little nigga

whats your body concerns, waist, bidelt?

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yes

Question however, if I do a cycle and then come off it, wouldn’t my natural test production be lower than now afterwards? I’m 17.5 btw

 

[Napoleon1800]

whats your body concerns, waist, bidelt?

I have narrow clavicles, wide hips, low muscle mass

 

[Copercel]

Question however, if I do a cycle and then come off it, wouldn’t my natural test production be lower than now afterwards? I’m 17.5 btw

That’s why you blast and cruise

 

[Napoleon1800]

That’s why you blast and cruise

Cruise for how long? Lifelong? I don’t want to be doing TRT and injecting forever man

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

I have narrow clavicles, wide hips, low muscle mass

are your clavicles and hips 1 to 1 or is there a discrepancy to one side or the other

 

[Whirr22222]

Cruise for how long? Lifelong? I don’t want to be doing TRT and injecting forever man

Ill tell u this for a fact. U wont want to come off. But in the tiny probability u do, u will very likely be fine, as long as u use HCG only PCT

 

[Napoleon1800]

Ill tell u this for a fact. U wont want to come off. But in the tiny probability u do, u will very likely be fine, as long as u use HCG only PCT

Isnt my hpa axis still developing? Won’t I experience permanent shutdown?

 

[Copercel]

Cruise for how long? Lifelong?

Yes

 

[Napoleon1800]

I’ll tell u this for a fact. U wont want to come off. But in the tiny probability u do, u will very likely be fine, as long as u use HCG only PCT

I don’t want to be injecting forever because I don’t want to risk my hairline and fertility nor want to be reliant on injecting hormones for the rest of time, I just want to use this as a way to catch up where I’ve been left behind

 

[Whirr22222]

Isnt my hpa axis still developing? Won’t I experience permanent shutdown?

U will have to do ur own research on that one specifically, hasnt particularly been studies on that. I personally have hopped on at 21.5.

 

[Whirr22222]

I don’t want to be injecting forever because I don’t want to risk my hairline and fertility nor want to be reliant on injecting hormones for the rest of time, I just want to use this as a way to catch up where I’ve been left behind

As for hairline my dad is bald and I was completely fine on 600 test but threw in dut anyway, preventitively for aging & it also significantly reduced my acne

 

[Napoleon1800]

are your clavicles and hips 1 to 1 or is there a discrepancy to one side or the other

Clavicles are slightly wider but I have subhuman tier hip width and narrow frame (clavicles, scapula rib cage etc) and low muscle mass plus I have a shit ton of low t symptoms (I might have low free t) like I lack strength, libido, strong erections, drive, aggression, ability to be lean and muscular, small wrists hands high pitched voice lack of bonemass etc

 

[Napoleon1800]

are your clavicles and hips 1 to 1 or is there a discrepancy to one side or the other

It looks something like these

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

Clavicles are slightly wider but I have subhuman tier hip width and narrow frame (clavicles, scapula rib cage etc) and low muscle mass plus I have a shit ton of low t symptoms (I might have low free t) like I lack strength, libido, strong erections, drive, aggression, ability to be lean and muscular, small wrists hands high pitched voice lack of bonemass etc

breathing pullovers can help get wider scapula placement then just gh imo, saveable but waist will always be not that great

 

[Napoleon1800]

As for hairline my dad is bald and I was completely fine on 600 test but threw in dut anyway, preventitively for aging & it also significantly reduced my acne

Dut reduced your acne? Did your skin get worse on test?

Did your balls shrink, are you still fertile? How long have you been using test?

Also I don’t really want to be spending a bunch of my money on hormones and protective hair drugs forever

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

It looks something like these View attachment 4188228View attachment 4188229

oof

 

[Aryan Incel]

Just done a total testosterone blood test and I got 560 ng/dL

I was thinking of pinning test to grow my frame and put on muscle mass

Should I?

Yes

 

[Whirr22222]

Dut reduced your acne? Did your skin get worse on test?

Did your balls shrink, are you still fertile? How long have you been using test?

Also I don’t really want to be spending a bunch of my money on hormones and protective hair drugs forever

Not really. I was a unique case in where I hopped on a full course of 60-80mg accutane at the same time i started test. So my skin was fine throughout. As for body acne (worse case scenario) from what I can tell thats genetic, so if u got that during puberty u will probs get on gear and vice versa.

But there was some redness & small spots on one of my cheeks that went away upon adding dut recently.

 

[Napoleon1800]

breathing pullovers can help get wider scapula placement then just gh imo, saveable but waist will always be not that great

Hipcel hero

Don’t wanna turn out like this nigga tho

 

[Napoleon1800]

Not really. I was a unique case in where I hopped on a full course of 60-80mg accutane at the same time i started test. So my skin was fine throughout. As for body acne (worse case scenario) from what I can tell thats genetic, so if u got that during puberty u will probs get on gear and vice versa.

But there was some redness & small spots on one of my cheeks that went away upon adding dut recently.

I only had very few body acne in puberty I mainly had face acne and more than that Pie Which still hasn’t gone

What age did you start test and how old are you now?

 

[Whirr22222]

Dut reduced your acne? Did your skin get worse on test?

Did your balls shrink, are you still fertile? How long have you been using test?

Also I don’t really want to be spending a bunch of my money on hormones and protective hair drugs forever

Regarding ur other points, hair is life, u want to take dut for the rest of ur life i promise. Had a mate of mine lost to the norwood reaper, he has lost alot of appeal, we went on a 2 man and the girl talking to me said "ur mate needs a hair transplant" jfl

My balls have shrunk - small to begin with too - which I have spent no time lamenting as no girl on earth has ever given a toss about a guys balls...

I only had very few body acne in puberty I mainly had face acne and more than that Pie Which still hasn’t gone

What age did you start test and how old are you now?

21.5, im basically 22 now

 

[slaters]

from what I can tell thats genetic, so if u got that during puberty u will probs get on gear and vice versa.

Yeah same with aromatization I feel
Never had face acne but on 200 but I had to use ru on my back
A friend that had pubertal gyno is aromatizing on trt doses

 

[Whirr22222]

Yeah same with aromatization I feel
Never had face acne but on 200 but I had to use ru on my back
A friend that had pubertal gyno is aromatizing on trt doses

Broootal

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yeah same with aromatization I feel
Never had face acne but on 200 but I had to use ru on my back
A friend that had pubertal gyno is aromatizing on trt doses

I already have gyno as well

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yeah same with aromatization I feel
Never had face acne but on 200 but I had to use ru on my back
A friend that had pubertal gyno is aromatizing on trt doses

Should I take an AI alongside it then?

 

[NoaA99]

Your test is average, not low compared to your peer group.
Did you get tested in the morning?

Test won’t magically grow your skeletal frame btw.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Regarding ur other points, hair is life, u want to take dut for the rest of ur life i promise. Had a mate of mine lost to the norwood reaper, he has lost alot of appeal, we went on a 2 man and the girl talking to me said "ur mate needs a hair transplant" jfl

My balls have shrunk - small to begin with too - which I have spent no time lamenting as no girl on earth has ever given a toss about a guys balls...



21.5, im basically 22 now

I’m 17.5 so I feel like there’s some more risks

Dude girls do care about balls have tiny balls looks brutal, big balls signal fertility testosterone and I’ve literally heard bitches gossip about a dude having hung balls
Does HCG not prevent the ball shrinkage?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

If you want to. Nothing that can’t be easily mitigated.

Don’t listen to that 16 year old sub 60 IQ retard. Muh Test bloat. He’s belongs on Reddit.

Won’t change your bones or frame.

 

[asdvek]

If you want to. Nothing that can’t be easily mitigated.

Don’t listen to that 16 year old sub 60 IQ retard. Muh Test bloat. He’s belongs on Reddit.

Won’t change your bones or frame.

How to mitigate test bloat then

 

[Napoleon1800]

Your test is average, not low compared to your peer group.
Did you get tested in the morning?

Test won’t magically grow your skeletal frame btw.

Yes I tested in the morning

I could have low free t because I have essentially most symptoms of low testosterone

Since clavicles and scapula tend to mature later than other bones I was praying perhaps test would do something because I mean I really don’t have much to lose atp

 

[Napoleon1800]

If you want to. Nothing that can’t be easily mitigated.

Don’t listen to that 16 year old sub 60 IQ retard. Muh Test bloat. He’s belongs on Reddit.

Won’t change your bones or frame.

I don’t really care about bloat as long it’s a cycle and not a permanent cruise

My main worries are hair and fertility and ball shrinkage and irreversible natural shutdown

I’ve seen people who have wider frames after roids and they used in late teens, bones that make up the frame tend to mature in the late teens-early 20s, I’m willing to take the chance anyway not only because I have symptoms of low testosterone but since I have far more to gain than to lose I feel

 

[chadisbeingmade]

How to mitigate test bloat then

Daily pins w shorter esters + Amiloride when blasting. Nebivolol for hGH induced bloating.

If you have muh Test bloat when you are on a cruise it’s not bloat, you are boneless.

 

[IraniancelV2]

Daily pins w shorter esters + Amiloride when blasting. Nebivolol for hGH induced bloating.

If you have muh Test bloat when you are on a cruise it’s not bloat, you are boneless.

Would the ester even matter pinning daily?

 

[Whirr22222]

I’m 17.5 so I feel like there’s some more risks

Dude girls do care about balls have tiny balls looks brutal, big balls signal fertility testosterone and I’ve literally heard bitches gossip about a dude having hung balls
Does HCG not prevent the ball shrinkage?

The guy who had "hung balls" probably had an average sized penis otherwise they would be talking about his penis instead.

 

[NoaA99]

Yes I tested in the morning

I could have low free t because I have essentially most symptoms of low testosterone

Since clavicles and scapula tend to mature later than other bones I was praying perhaps test would do something because I mean I really don’t have much to lose atp

Sorry to disappoint you, but it won’t do anything for your clavicles.

If you use it, it should be for improving your quality of life.
If you genuinely have low bioavailable testosterone, then treatment can make a massive difference.
But it’s also possible you’re just dealing with a nocebo effect in the first place.

 

[slaters]

Daily pins w shorter esters + Amiloride when blasting. Nebivolol for hGH induced bloating.

If you have muh Test bloat when you are on a cruise it’s not bloat, you are boneless.

Do u get HCTZ Amiloride combo or just straight Amiloride I can obly get Amiloride+HCTZ

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Would the ester even matter pinning daily?

If you are going to pin daily then there is no reason not to be short eaters like Test P.

You get the benefit of less aromatisation and being saturated fully within 5 days, instead of waiting weeks for it to fully saturate. You can titrate and and assess how you respond to a certain dose with days.

Do u get HCTZ Amiloride combo or just straight Amiloride I can obly get Amiloride+HCTZ

I use nothing. I’m lean enough to not have any drastic bloat when blasting a gram a week. The slight increase in bloat when i’m blasting is temporary so I don’t care to use diuretics. Amiloride only is ideal if you do chose to use it.

 

[Noesis]

Yes

You fucking Jew some of us wanna have kids

 

[Copercel]

You fucking Jew some of us wanna have kids

You will hop off eventually and your balls will go back to normal

 

[Noesis]

You will hop off eventually and your balls will go back to normal

Well just how long is that gonna take if you tell a 15 year old nigga to pin and cruise forever

 

[MaracasMogs]

Just done a total testosterone blood test and I got 560 ng/dL

I was thinking of pinning test to grow my frame and put on muscle mass

Should I?

Yes of course