Should I pin test?

[IraniancelV2]

You will hop off eventually and your balls will go back to normal

Stop. Reduce the competition. Steroids rape your hairline, balls and skin. Your cock is gonna shrink, youre gonna be infertile with tits.

 

[Copercel]

Well just how long is that gonna take if you tell a 15 year old nigga to pin and cruise forever

He’s not 15 (I’m pretty sure), I think he is done with puberty.

It won’t take more than a few months until your balls will go back to normal

 

[Copercel]

Stop. Reduce the competition. Steroids rape your hairline, balls and skin. Your cock is gonna shrink, youre gonna be infertile with tits.

Tbh

 

[Napoleon1800]

He’s not 15 (I’m pretty sure), I think he is done with puberty.

It won’t take more than a few months until your balls will go back to normal

I am 17.5

 

[Napoleon1800]

Tbh

don’t ever listen to sandcels btw they’re all evil

 

[MaracasMogs]

Stop. Reduce the competition. Steroids rape your hairline, balls and skin. Your cock is gonna shrink, youre gonna be infertile with tits.

just use ai

 

[ectomorpher]

Delts is the easiest place. Or ventroglutes but its harder to find for some beginners. Use prop if u can (must use daily pins for that) or test e is probably fine.

whats daily dose of prop did you suggest ?

 

[Noesis]

He’s not 15 (I’m pretty sure), I think he is done with puberty.

It won’t take more than a few months until your balls will go back to normal

Well if he cruises more than a year, which he will, don't expect him to take some pct and recover in a month so he becomes able to have a kid

 

[MaracasMogs]

your cock is gonna shrink, youre gonna be infertile with tits.

Maybe that's why @Clavicular's girlfriend broke up with him, because she didn't feel satisfied by his small dih

 

[1blameme]

just blast bro u only live once

 

[Copercel]

don't expect him to take some pct

I don’t, PCT is useless

recover in a month

he will recover in 2-4 months probably

 

[Napoleon1800]

Well if he cruises more than a year, which he will, don't expect him to take some pct and recover in a month so he becomes able to have a kid

I don’t see the justifications between doing a cycle or a cruise, with convenience obviously being a factor but whether a cycle would shut you down forever to the point you are forced to do a cruise or it wouldn’t idk but ideally I don’t want to be injecting testosterone long term

 

[Napoleon1800]

I don’t, PCT is useless

he will recover in 2-4 months probably

How would I recover without PCT?

if I take ai, would I take aromasin or Arimidex, because would I either have aromasin rape my hairline or Arimidex rebound and fuck my body over

 

[Noesis]

I don’t see the justifications between doing a cycle or a cruise, with convenience obviously being a factor but whether a cycle would shut you down forever to the point you are forced to do a cruise or it wouldn’t idk but ideally I don’t want to be injecting testosterone long term

It won't shut you down forever but people cruise anyways

 

[Noesis]

I don’t, PCT is useless

This bullshit again

 

[ectomorpher]

I don’t, PCT is useless

he will recover in 2-4 months probably

why useless ?

Your cock is gonna shrink

no it's not

 

[Copercel]

why useless ?

Not enough research about it

You will recover either way, you don’t have to use PCT

 

[Copercel]

How would I recover without PCT?

Your HPTA will go back to normal after 1-4 months

would I take aromasin or Arimidex, because would I either have aromasin rape my hairline or Arimidex rebound and fuck my body over

Aromasin mogs all AIs, it won’t rape your hair

Arimidex is worse than aromasin don’t use it

 

[Whirr22222]

whats daily dose of prop did you suggest ?

Divide weekly dose by 7. Find ur maximum tolerable dose and use that for "blasts" then go down to 200ish or lower if u want for "cruises"

 

[Whirr22222]

Your HPTA will go back to normal after 1-4 months

Aromasin mogs all AIs, it won’t rape your hair

Arimidex is worse than aromasin don’t use it

Nothing bad about adex if ur not a retard and dont crush E2

 

[Copercel]

Nothing bad about adex if ur not a retard and dont crush E2

No reason to use it when you have aromasin

 

[Copercel]

@Napoleon1800 also, use an AI only when you noticed high E2 effects

 

[Noesis]

Your HPTA will go back to normal after 1-4 months

Aromasin mogs all AIs, it won’t rape your hair

Arimidex is worse than aromasin don’t use it

You know most people here are teenagers right it won't be 1-4 months

 

[Noesis]

Not enough research about it

You will recover either way, you don’t have to use PCT

Absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absence

 

[Copercel]

You know most people here are teenagers right it won't be 1-4 months

Ok? I’m not talking another teenagers

I don’t advocate roids to teenagers

 

[Noesis]

Ok? I’m not talking another teenagers

I don’t advocate roids to teenagers

A 15 year old should do test ngl

 

[Copercel]

Absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absence

I still see no reason to use it still LOL.

Waste of money and time.

You realize that it can be just a compound with NO positive effect whatsoever, right? We have no evidence to prove otherwise

 

[Noesis]

I still see no reason to use it still LOL.

Waste of money and time.

You realize that it can be just a compound with NO positive effect whatsoever, right? We have no evidence to prove otherwise

So by your logic mfs in bodybuilding are all idiots up to this day for using them

There might be someone out there waiting after a long ass cruise or a heavy cycle, months for his HPTA to restart only to find out it won't and has fucked his fertility for years

 

[Napoleon1800]

@Napoleon1800 also, use an AI only when you noticed high E2 effects

I already have gyno

 

[Copercel]

So by your logic mfs in bodybuilding are all idiots up to this day for using them

Yes? JFL at thinking bodybuilders are NOT retarded lol

There might be someone out there waiting after a long ass cruise or a heavy cycle, months for his HPTA to restart only to find out it won't and has fucked his fertility for years

then he’s in the minority of people who’s HPTA is not recovering

 

[Napoleon1800]

Nothing bad about adex if ur not a retard and dont crush E2

Your HPTA will go back to normal after 1-4 months

Aromasin mogs all AIs, it won’t rape your hair

Arimidex is worse than aromasin don’t use it

Jackb0y and that dude who made the hgh thread both lost hair on Aromasin and it only stopped when they switched to Arimidex

I’m pretty sure, based on everything I’ve read, aromasin health wise is safer and mogs Arimidex in like every way (though some people preferred Adex for heightmaxxing don’t remember why) but it’s just the hair and the anabolic effects I’m worried about on asin

 

[Whirr22222]

Jackb0y and that dude who made the hgh thread both lost hair on Aromasin and it only stopped when they switched to Arimidex

I’m pretty sure, based on everything I’ve read, aromasin health wise is safer and mogs Arimidex in like every way (though some people preferred Adex for heightmaxxing don’t remember why) but it’s just the hair and the anabolic effects I’m worried about on asin

From my research I remember concluding adex and have had no issues, I dont remember why to be 100% honest. Best to do ur own research on that one, I recommend MorePlatesMoreDates & VigorousSteve.

 

[Noesis]

Jackb0y and that dude who made the hgh thread both lost hair on Aromasin and it only stopped when they switched to Arimidex

I’m pretty sure, based on everything I’ve read, aromasin health wise is safer and mogs Arimidex in like every way (though some people preferred Adex for heightmaxxing don’t remember why) but it’s just the hair and the anabolic effects I’m worried about on asin

I'm on letrozole while already having androgenic alopecia (irrelevant) and my hair is fine lol

 

[Noesis]

Yes? JFL at thinking bodybuilders are NOT retarded lol

then he’s in the minority of people who’s HPTA is not recovering

Aight man you do you 1-4 months with the testosterone levels of a little girl

 

[Copercel]

Jackb0y and that dude who made the hgh thread both lost hair on Aromasin and it only stopped when they switched to Arimidex

Nocebo tbh.

The active metabolite of aromasin is not strong enough to make you lose any hair

 

[Napoleon1800]

Nocebo tbh.

The active metabolite of aromasin is not strong enough to make you lose any hair

Regardless, I’m sure aromasin itself won’t do much to cause hair loss if e2 is not crashed but perhaps it’s the synergy with AAS that causes. I’d still probably lean towards taking something for hair protection

 

[Copercel]

I’d still probably lean towards taking something for hair protection

Yeah you should do this regardless of the AI.

Don’t worry about aromasin’s metabolite, it’s too weak to cause damage

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yeah you should do this regardless of the AI.

Don’t worry about aromasin’s metabolite, it’s too weak to cause damage

If it weren’t for any fears of hairloss idk why would anyone even consider Arimidex tbh brutal mog by Asin in like every measurable way

 

[Copercel]

If it weren’t for any fears of hairloss idk why would anyone even consider Arimidex tbh brutal mog by Asin in like every measurable way

Not to mention the negative effects Arimidex has on your lipids. Literally no reason to use Arimidex over aromasin

 

[AryanSchizo]

eat steak and eggs and get sun , you’ll be a new man

 

[Napoleon1800]

eat steak and eggs and get sun , you’ll be a new man

I do all 3

 

[Napoleon1800]

Not to mention the negative effects Arimidex has on your lipids. Literally no reason to use Arimidex over aromasin

Don’t you think the risk of permanent HPTA suppression for someone like me which their HPTA is still maturing is much higher?

Also I’m untrained, do you think it’s more beneficial if I take test 1-2 years from now or take it now?

 

[Copercel]

Don’t you think the risk of permanent HPTA suppression for someone like me which their HPTA is still maturing is much higher?

Also I’m untrained, do you think it’s more beneficial if I take test 1-2 years from now or take it now?

Don’t start steroids now.

Eat healthy, count your macros, get enough sleep (8 hour minimum), train 4 times a week, take natural supplements like creatine, zinc, magnesium etc. do this for 2 years and then see if you wanna hop on ‘roids or do you wanna stay natural. Are you a late bloomer? Because there is still hope you will get out of 560 ng/dl of endogenous T hell LOL.

Wait at least 2 years until you start

 

[Napoleon1800]

Don’t start steroids now.

Eat healthy, count your macros, get enough sleep (8 hour minimum), train 4 times a week, take natural supplements like creatine, zinc, magnesium etc. do this for 2 years and then see if you wanna hop on ‘roids or do you wanna stay natural. Are you a late bloomer? Because there is still hope you will get out of 560 ng/dl of endogenous T hell LOL.

Wait at least 2 years until you start

No I am slight early bloomer

I take all the supplements and eat a comprehensive diet with things like meat eggs organs milk cheese etc

I don’t train and my sleep is quite fucked

 

[Napoleon1800]

Don’t start steroids now.

Eat healthy, count your macros, get enough sleep (8 hour minimum), train 4 times a week, take natural supplements like creatine, zinc, magnesium etc. do this for 2 years and then see if you wanna hop on ‘roids or do you wanna stay natural. Are you a late bloomer? Because there is still hope you will get out of 560 ng/dl of endogenous T hell LOL.

Wait at least 2 years until you start

Wouldn’t any potential skeletal changes only be possible now though?

I also feel that I want to catch up to all the other normies my age who are gymmaxxed and have been for years, and I want to be in an ideal position before I go to uni

 

[Copercel]

Wouldn’t any potential skeletal changes only be possible now though?

Roids won’t give any skeletal changes

I also feel that I want to catch up to all the other normies my age who are gymmaxxed and have been for years, and I want to be in an ideal position before I go to uni

yeah but don’t do a cycle at 17, wait a year or two

I don’t train and my sleep is quite fucked

fix it

 

[Napoleon1800]

Roids won’t give any skeletal changes

yeah but don’t do a cycle at 17, wait a year or two

fix it

most blatant example I can think off immediately is androgenic, unless you’re saying he photoshops the change in his frame

 

[Copercel]

most blatant example I can think off immediately is androgenic, unless you’re saying he photoshops the change in his frame

Androgenic is a fricking anomaly, mutation. He’s a 1 in 10 million, but that doesn’t mean the ‘roids helped him get to where he did, I guess we will never know

 

[aids]

bro i helped you in dms before, no offence with your face with test bloat would be fucked

Dawg you legit said you would stop with the retardation then you turn around with this.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Androgenic is a fricking anomaly, mutation. He’s a 1 in 10 million, but that doesn’t mean the ‘roids helped him get to where he did, I guess we will never know

Is it not worth a try then?