Should I run a first cycle to recomp? (High iq roiders)

[rc201]

22, never used. Did the research already. Current vs goal attached. Not chasing his insertions, similar BF and muscle mass. Tight waist, abs, more chest/shoulders.

Labs: TT 798, FT 170, E2 24, SHBG 36, LH 8.8. CBC/CMP were normal. Markers look good right now. I know Test can skew lipids, hematocrit, and hormones. I want to know if they typically return to this range after coming off.

On hand: Test E, Primo, HGH, HCG, Enclo, Nolva.

I’m not adding Primo. I have it, but I’m leaving it out.

Draft: 16 weeks Test E at 400 or 500 mg/wk (split 2x). 4 IU HGH daily. HCG 250–500 IU 2x/wk. Small deficit/recomp. PCT Enclo + Nolva after ester clearance.

I know 16 weeks won’t copy the goal pic. Open to blast → short cruise to fix markers → second blast → PCT if that’s what it actually takes. I want to come off near these natural numbers with bloods back in range.

Want input from people who have run first cycles, not generic advice.

1. From these pics, reasonable starting point?

2. 500 Test for a first cycle?

3. After 16 weeks + HCG + PCT, do hormones and the other markers usually return to baseline like this?

4. One blast + PCT, or two blasts with a short cruise if I want to get closer to the goal?

What is the best thing I can do right now I’ve been on Reta 1mg-2mg for several months and went from 190 fat af to 165 fat

 

[grymhackare]

start with 250mg test only to see how you respond and then up it, usually only need clomid after 16 weeks, for clarification i DNR'd

 

[rc201]

start with 250mg test only to see how you respond and then up it, usually only need clomid after 16 weeks, for clarification i DNR'd

Fk u nga might as well cruise and blast if I have all that shi

 

[fattofat]

1. It's not the worst, but youre not as lean as whats recommended to start with
2. 500 test isn't bad but you might experience some of the sides, you can start lower and titrate your dose as time goes on but with the 16 week period, you'll miss out on gains
3. Yes they can return to normal with a proper pct
4. Different from person to person but I believe 2 blasts with a cruise will work better

 

[grymhackare]

Fk u nga might as well cruise and blast if I have all that shi

i hope you shrink your balls to oblivion for all i care this is what works for me, do whatever tf you want

 

[rc201]

i hope you shrink your balls to oblivion for all i care this is what works for me, do whatever tf you want

I have hcg

 

[rc201]

1. It's not the worst, but youre not as lean as whats recommended to start with
2. 500 test isn't bad but you might experience some of the sides, you can start lower and titrate your dose as time goes on but with the 16 week period, you'll miss out on gains
3. Yes they can return to normal with a proper pct
4. Different from person to person but I believe 2 blasts with a cruise will work better

Sides like higher e2 , an AI should do the job no? I’m also on accutane microdosed, may add DUT but not sure

 

[grymhackare]

I have hcg

use it, i didnt and my balls are bigger then ever

 

[rc201]

use it, i didnt and my balls are bigger then ever

Noted that’s a legit tip thanks

 

[fattofat]

Sides like higher e2 , an AI should do the job no? I’m also on accutane microdosed, may add DUT but not sure

Yeah mostly just worrying about the e2, you bp and resting heart rate might increase a bit, but at 500mg It wont be the worst thing, you can also get something like propranolol for it

 

[rc201]

Yeah mostly just worrying about the e2, you bp and resting heart rate might increase a bit, but at 500mg It wont be the worst thing, you can also get something like propranolol for it

I’ll consider it if it rises thanks for the tips