Should I stop my testosterone cycle?

[chunkichungi]

I’ve just turned 18 and am 2 weeks into a 300mg weekly testosterone enanthate cycle to increase dimorphism hopefully. Was just speaking to someone on Reddit who was telling me he doesn’t think it’s worth it and that I should stop now before it’s too late. I’m really not sure. Does anyone have any opinions. He was concerned it will shit down my HPTA as well as cause negative long term changes in mental health and intelligence. I have hcg and clomid fpr pct but am begging to wonder if it’s not worth it. Thoughts would be appreciated

 

[sluttysuzy420]

I’ve just turned 18 and am 2 weeks into a 300mg weekly testosterone enanthate cycle to increase dimorphism hopefully. Was just speaking to someone on Reddit who was telling me he doesn’t think it’s worth it and that I should stop now before it’s too late. I’m really not sure. Does anyone have any opinions. He was concerned it will shit down my HPTA as well as cause negative long term changes in mental health and intelligence. I have hcg and clomid fpr pct but am begging to wonder if it’s not worth it. Thoughts would be appreciated

yes nigga hop off. im assuming you've trained for less than 3 years.

 

[sluttysuzy420]

yes nigga hop off. im assuming you've trained for less than 3 years.

you shouldnt hop on till youve absolutely staganated no matter what you do. U still hbave more growth.

 

[Сигма Бой]

Was just on Reddit

Farewell!

 

[m0ss26]

If you decided to hop on cycle and one or even a few Reddit niggas r enough to make u reconsider why would u get on in the first place

 

[AscensionMan98]

I’ve just turned 18 and am 2 weeks into a 300mg weekly testosterone enanthate cycle to increase dimorphism hopefully. Was just speaking to someone on Reddit who was telling me he doesn’t think it’s worth it and that I should stop now before it’s too late. I’m really not sure. Does anyone have any opinions. He was concerned it will shit down my HPTA as well as cause negative long term changes in mental health and intelligence. I have hcg and clomid fpr pct but am begging to wonder if it’s not worth it. Thoughts would be appreciated

Someone on reddit... their a bunch of fucking soyboys who act like their all healthy but their the same ones that thing being a vegan is healthier then eating meat

So with that said if you have not trained like a full year natty you would not maximize your potential gains as it takes time to build discipline both working out with intensity, not skipping workouts, and maintaining a proper diet.

Good news is your 18 not really a young teenager so height gains are going to be incremental at this point. They say men grow till 21 but I dont know any men that had that . The only ones that do tend to be the already tall ones like 6ft 2+ or those that had late growth spurts in their family.

I stopped growing by 18.

The intelligence and mental health is exaggerated. That mainly comes with years of steroid abuse without cycling off. Most steroid users become addicted to the gains so only do blast and cruise which is not good for the body in terms of having a full recovery.

Even rich piana recommended that one should do the same amount time off gear as their cycle, so if you do a full 16 week cycle, then 16 weeks off before next cycle. And that is with PCT

You could probably get away with doing half the time but the optimal is same time off vs same time on.

Ask for why your doing it, its the same reason everyone else is doing it, which is to get a mogger body to get pussy. You have to remember however that if you don't protect the hair , no matter how mogger your physique you won't get bitches unless their old and used up ( so over 28 ) .

Young women demand hair on a man, so protect it with dutasteride or fin and take mk-677 on cycle with metformin ( anti diabetes medication as mk-677 can elevate GH and IGF-1 levels, which can reduce insulin sensitivity. Growth hormone counteracts insulin’s effects, making it harder for cells to absorb glucose from the bloodstream.This can lead to hyperglycemia (high blood sugar levels) over time.
So to counteract that you take metformin

Why mk-677, its a cheaper alternative to boost your gh levels so your hair grows faster.

I took Sarms and rad-140 caused a lot of hair loss, I'm talking clumps of hair falling off whenever I dug my hand in my scalp. It wouldn't stop it was terrible.

But using mk-677 I was able to comb my head using my fingers and only a handful of hairs fell, so the usual. I was impressed.

I would also have topical minoxidil on hand ready .


If you are already balding and prone to hair loss in your family I would advise you to not take steroids, even with using the precautions as nothing can counteract the adverse effects of high doses of test, but if your not prone to it then doing this prrecautions is going to prevent the majority of hair loss if not all.

And work on your social circle maxxing and approach maxxing. Their are now a lot of cases of steroids users not getting any bitches but that's cause they dont have any social circle and have not approached foids before. So I would talk to women while your on cycle so once your fully peaked its likely some might show strong interest

 

[m0ss26]

Someone on reddit... their a bunch of fucking soyboys who act like their all healthy but their the same ones that thing being a vegan is healthier then eating meat

So with that said if you have not trained like a full year natty you would not maximize your potential gains as it takes time to build discipline both working out with intensity, not skipping workouts, and maintaining a proper diet.

Good news is your 18 not really a young teenager so height gains are going to be incremental at this point. They say men grow till 21 but I dont know any men that had that . The only ones that do tend to be the already tall ones like 6ft 2+ or those that had late growth spurts in their family.

I stopped growing by 18.

The intelligence and mental health is exaggerated. That mainly comes with years of steroid abuse without cycling off. Most steroid users become addicted to the gains so only do blast and cruise which is not good for the body in terms of having a full recovery.

Even rich piana recommended that one should do the same amount time off gear as their cycle, so if you do a full 16 week cycle, then 16 weeks off before next cycle. And that is with PCT

You could probably get away with doing half the time but the optimal is same time off vs same time on.

Ask for why your doing it, its the same reason everyone else is doing it, which is to get a mogger body to get pussy. You have to remember however that if you don't protect the hair , no matter how mogger your physique you won't get bitches unless their old and used up ( so over 28 ) .

Young women demand hair on a man, so protect it with dutasteride or fin and take mk-677 on cycle with metformin ( anti diabetes medication as mk-677 can elevate GH and IGF-1 levels, which can reduce insulin sensitivity. Growth hormone counteracts insulin’s effects, making it harder for cells to absorb glucose from the bloodstream.This can lead to hyperglycemia (high blood sugar levels) over time.
So to counteract that you take metformin

Why mk-677, its a cheaper alternative to boost your gh levels so your hair grows faster.

I took Sarms and rad-140 caused a lot of hair loss, I'm talking clumps of hair falling off whenever I dug my hand in my scalp. It wouldn't stop it was terrible.

But using mk-677 I was able to comb my head using my fingers and only a handful of hairs fell, so the usual. I was impressed.

I would also have topical minoxidil on hand ready .


If you are already balding and prone to hair loss in your family I would advise you to not take steroids, even with using the precautions as nothing can counteract the adverse effects of high doses of test, but if your not prone to it then doing this prrecautions is going to prevent the majority of hair loss if not all.

And work on your social circle maxxing and approach maxxing. Their are now a lot of cases of steroids users not getting any bitches but that's cause they dont have any social circle and have not approached foids before. So I would talk to women while your on cycle so once your fully peaked its likely some might show strong interest

High IQ

 

[chunkichungi]

Someone on reddit... their a bunch of fucking soyboys who act like their all healthy but their the same ones that thing being a vegan is healthier then eating meat

So with that said if you have not trained like a full year natty you would not maximize your potential gains as it takes time to build discipline both working out with intensity, not skipping workouts, and maintaining a proper diet.

Good news is your 18 not really a young teenager so height gains are going to be incremental at this point. They say men grow till 21 but I dont know any men that had that . The only ones that do tend to be the already tall ones like 6ft 2+ or those that had late growth spurts in their family.

I stopped growing by 18.

The intelligence and mental health is exaggerated. That mainly comes with years of steroid abuse without cycling off. Most steroid users become addicted to the gains so only do blast and cruise which is not good for the body in terms of having a full recovery.

Even rich piana recommended that one should do the same amount time off gear as their cycle, so if you do a full 16 week cycle, then 16 weeks off before next cycle. And that is with PCT

You could probably get away with doing half the time but the optimal is same time off vs same time on.

Ask for why your doing it, its the same reason everyone else is doing it, which is to get a mogger body to get pussy. You have to remember however that if you don't protect the hair , no matter how mogger your physique you won't get bitches unless their old and used up ( so over 28 ) .

Young women demand hair on a man, so protect it with dutasteride or fin and take mk-677 on cycle with metformin ( anti diabetes medication as mk-677 can elevate GH and IGF-1 levels, which can reduce insulin sensitivity. Growth hormone counteracts insulin’s effects, making it harder for cells to absorb glucose from the bloodstream.This can lead to hyperglycemia (high blood sugar levels) over time.
So to counteract that you take metformin

Why mk-677, its a cheaper alternative to boost your gh levels so your hair grows faster.

I took Sarms and rad-140 caused a lot of hair loss, I'm talking clumps of hair falling off whenever I dug my hand in my scalp. It wouldn't stop it was terrible.

But using mk-677 I was able to comb my head using my fingers and only a handful of hairs fell, so the usual. I was impressed.

I would also have topical minoxidil on hand ready .


If you are already balding and prone to hair loss in your family I would advise you to not take steroids, even with using the precautions as nothing can counteract the adverse effects of high doses of test, but if your not prone to it then doing this prrecautions is going to prevent the majority of hair loss if not all.

And work on your social circle maxxing and approach maxxing. Their are now a lot of cases of steroids users not getting any bitches but that's cause they dont have any social circle and have not approached foids before. So I would talk to women while your on cycle so once your fully peaked its likely some might show strong interest

I’m already on oral minoxidil and I do own mk but I have been hesitant to take it. Personally I don’t really care about my physique and am taking testosterone for my face. Do you think a testosterone cycle will affect my face positively? Also, after this cycle i do not have any plans to do another

 

[chunkichungi]

you shouldnt hop on till youve absolutely staganated no matter what you do. U still hbave more growth.

My growth plates are closed

 

[chunkichungi]

yes nigga hop off. im assuming you've trained for less than 3 years.

About 3 years

 

[DNRDniggerking]

im assuming you've trained for less than 3 years.

wtf is this normie shit

 

[DravidianFootjob]

I’ve just turned 18 and am 2 weeks into a 300mg weekly testosterone enanthate cycle to increase dimorphism hopefully. Was just speaking to someone on Reddit who was telling me he doesn’t think it’s worth it and that I should stop now before it’s too late. I’m really not sure. Does anyone have any opinions. He was concerned it will shit down my HPTA as well as cause negative long term changes in mental health and intelligence. I have hcg and clomid fpr pct but am begging to wonder if it’s not worth it. Thoughts would be appreciated

dont listen to balding manlets on cuckdit

 

[AscensionMan98]

I’m already on oral minoxidil and I do own mk but I have been hesitant to take it. Personally I don’t really care about my physique and am taking testosterone for my face. Do you think a testosterone cycle will affect my face positively? Also, after this cycle i do not have any plans to do another

You should be going crazy at the gym bro! It would have both positives and negatives.

Here is some effects

1. Sharper Jawline & Bone Density​

• Hormonal Mechanism: DHT binds to androgen receptors in bones, influencing bone density.
• Facial Impact: Creates a sharper, more angular jawline, especially when combined with low facial fat.

2. Leaner, More Chiseled Look​

• Hormonal Mechanism: Testosterone promotes lipolysis (fat breakdown), reducing subcutaneous facial fat.
• Facial Impact: Enhances cheekbone definition and makes the face appear more structured.

​

4. Increased Beard Growth​

• Hormonal Mechanism: DHT stimulates hair follicles in the beard, mustache, and jawline areas.
• Facial Impact: Results in a fuller, denser beard and darker facial hair.

5. Fuller Face (If Water Retention Occurs)​

• Hormonal Mechanism: Testosterone increases sodium retention and blood plasma volume, sometimes leading to water retention.
• Facial Impact: Can make the face look temporarily puffier or fuller, depending on diet and steroid choice.

6. More Defined Facial Muscle Tone​

• Hormonal Mechanism: Testosterone interacts with androgen receptors in facial muscles, promoting hypertrophy.
• Facial Impact: Contributes to stronger expressions and a more dominant facial appearance.

However some Cons

Increased Sebum Production → Acne & Skin Damage​

• Testosterone stimulates sebaceous glands, making the skin more oily.
• This can lead to chronic acne, scarring, and an overall rougher skin texture

Reduced collagen production= older rougher look

• testosterone boosts collagen initially, long-term high levels (especially with steroids) can disrupt collagen balance, leading to:
  • Thinner, rougher skin
  • More visible wrinkles and fine lines
  • Less skin elasticity (causing sagging over time)

- DHT (a testosterone byproduct) reduces collagen synthesis at high levels, leading to faster skin aging.



So how do you do a test cycle safely to get the pros with not as much cons

To minimize acne damage you need to take Tret. I would recommend doing the lowest dose cream first, and apply moisturizer first making sure your face is dry. Do this in the night time only. So 1 hours before bed apply moisturizer. Then wait 30 minutes to let the face dry more. Then apply the tret cream.

Do this every other day , as tret can be harsh on the skin. And you don't need to rub a huge amount,tret is x10 more stronger then retinol so you only need a small amount.

Tret also boosts collagen production in the face so it would negate the negative effects of collagen loss on cycle.


Collagen loss- Take collagen supplementation. You can get either the powders or take the pills. The benefits of the powders is you can add it to water and as it has no taste its easy to get the recommended amount. If your forgetful then take the pills

Bloat- just do a smaller dose. I would not be running more then 250 mg of test. Even at TRT levels as low as 100mg, your basically functioning at the top tier baseline of a robust high t chad except your t levels are always gonna be at 1000ng/dl throughout the day, while a natty chad would be fluctuating from 600-800 throughout the day, beating them

I would start out at 100mg before increasing to 200, and stop at the 250 mark as beyond that is bodybuilder type doses where the side effects of bloat and hair loss become a lot more amplified.


Hair loss - Looks like your already taking precautions which is good. Dutasteride+ topical minoxidil would get the job done, I woudl add mk-677 also with metformin as a bonus

For full facial masculinization it might take a few cycles and once your off cycle then those effects would diminish .

 

[chunkichungi]

You should be going crazy at the gym bro! It would have both positives and negatives.

Here is some effects

1. Sharper Jawline & Bone Density​

• Hormonal Mechanism: DHT binds to androgen receptors in bones, influencing bone density.
• Facial Impact: Creates a sharper, more angular jawline, especially when combined with low facial fat.

2. Leaner, More Chiseled Look​

• Hormonal Mechanism: Testosterone promotes lipolysis (fat breakdown), reducing subcutaneous facial fat.
• Facial Impact: Enhances cheekbone definition and makes the face appear more structured.

​

4. Increased Beard Growth​

• Hormonal Mechanism: DHT stimulates hair follicles in the beard, mustache, and jawline areas.
• Facial Impact: Results in a fuller, denser beard and darker facial hair.

5. Fuller Face (If Water Retention Occurs)​

• Hormonal Mechanism: Testosterone increases sodium retention and blood plasma volume, sometimes leading to water retention.
• Facial Impact: Can make the face look temporarily puffier or fuller, depending on diet and steroid choice.

6. More Defined Facial Muscle Tone​

• Hormonal Mechanism: Testosterone interacts with androgen receptors in facial muscles, promoting hypertrophy.
• Facial Impact: Contributes to stronger expressions and a more dominant facial appearance.

However some Cons

Increased Sebum Production → Acne & Skin Damage​

• Testosterone stimulates sebaceous glands, making the skin more oily.
• This can lead to chronic acne, scarring, and an overall rougher skin texture

Reduced collagen production= older rougher look

• testosterone boosts collagen initially, long-term high levels (especially with steroids) can disrupt collagen balance, leading to:
  • Thinner, rougher skin
  • More visible wrinkles and fine lines
  • Less skin elasticity (causing sagging over time)

- DHT (a testosterone byproduct) reduces collagen synthesis at high levels, leading to faster skin aging.



So how do you do a test cycle safely to get the pros with not as much cons

To minimize acne damage you need to take Tret. I would recommend doing the lowest dose cream first, and apply moisturizer first making sure your face is dry. Do this in the night time only. So 1 hours before bed apply moisturizer. Then wait 30 minutes to let the face dry more. Then apply the tret cream.

Do this every other day , as tret can be harsh on the skin. And you don't need to rub a huge amount,tret is x10 more stronger then retinol so you only need a small amount.

Tret also boosts collagen production in the face so it would negate the negative effects of collagen loss on cycle.


Collagen loss- Take collagen supplementation. You can get either the powders or take the pills. The benefits of the powders is you can add it to water and as it has no taste its easy to get the recommended amount. If your forgetful then take the pills

Bloat- just do a smaller dose. I would not be running more then 250 mg of test. Even at TRT levels as low as 100mg, your basically functioning at the top tier baseline of a robust high t chad except your t levels are always gonna be at 1000ng/dl throughout the day, while a natty chad would be fluctuating from 600-800 throughout the day, beating them

I would start out at 100mg before increasing to 200, and stop at the 250 mark as beyond that is bodybuilder type doses where the side effects of bloat and hair loss become a lot more amplified.


Hair loss - Looks like your already taking precautions which is good. Dutasteride+ topical minoxidil would get the job done, I woudl add mk-677 also with metformin as a bonus

For full facial masculinization it might take a few cycles and once your off cycle then those effects would diminish .

You saying the facial changes would go away off cycle?

 

[AscensionMan98]

You saying the facial changes would go away off cycle?

Some of them would, not all

 

[chunkichungi]

Some of them would, not all

I’m beginning to think it’s not worth it as a 16 week cycle isn’t really going to have any effect on my facial attractiveness

 

[snowbunnypolice]

You already did it just commit for 5-6 months

 

[chunkichungi]

You already did it just commit for 5-6 months

Is it really going to change my face at all tho?

 

[Deleted member 125379]

on Reddit who was telling me he doesn’t think it’s worth it and that I should stop now before it’s too late. I’m really not sure.

all mfs in reddit are soyfuck pussys, dont listen to what they tell you about test

 

[produssy]

Is it really going to change my face at all tho?

did you commit or came off? if you came off did you need a pct ?

 

[7evenvox22]

bro you’re literally 18 and 2 weeks in, you’re still in the clear if you stop now. shutting down your HPTA is real, and at your age your natural test is peaking anyway. if you stay on, you’ll tank your natural production and maybe never get it back fully. 2 weeks isn’t enough time for suppression to go permanent, just drop it, do a light PCT with clomid 25mg/day for 3-4 weeks and you’ll recover fine. no need for HCG unless you were on for months. that guy from reddit wasn’t lying the whole “dimorphism boost” idea sounds nice but doesn’t really work like that unless you’re still mid-puberty, and even then, it’s unpredictable. what you’ll actually get is acne, hormonal instability, possible long-term mood issues, and shutdown for temporary cosmetic changes. if you stop now, you’ll bounce back. if you push through "just to see results," you risk long-term endocrine problems for short-term placebo gains.

tl;dr: 2 weeks in? stop, pct, recover. you dodged a bullet. wait until you’re 21+ with bloodwork, goals, and a plan

 

[AscensionMan98]

I’m already on oral minoxidil and I do own mk but I have been hesitant to take it. Personally I don’t really care about my physique and am taking testosterone for my face. Do you think a testosterone cycle will affect my face positively? Also, after this cycle i do not have any plans to do another

Bro why woudl you waste the most anabolic hormone and all these potential side effects without working out. Thats like having sex with a condom. You don't get the full experience anywhere close.

Trust me getting a mogger body will complement greatly your more masculine face on steroids. but you have to dose correctly. Take a low dose of steroids as those who take high doses get bloated faces from the test as It increase water retention, but you can reduce this by having a low body fat and using lower doses.

Most of these bloat face guys are bulking and running high doses at the same time, a bad combo.

And remember to take your pct to boost your sperm count. So enclomiphene as steroids temporarily stop fertility but with the enclomiphene it I will make it recover a lot faster.

I realize this post reply is months late but if your still around It might be useful for your future cycles if you plan to do so. Usually guys say its " just one" but a lot end up cycling on and off

 

[Legend08]

I’ve just turned 18 and am 2 weeks into a 300mg weekly testosterone enanthate cycle to increase dimorphism hopefully. Was just speaking to someone on Reddit who was telling me he doesn’t think it’s worth it and that I should stop now before it’s too late. I’m really not sure. Does anyone have any opinions. He was concerned it will shit down my HPTA as well as cause negative long term changes in mental health and intelligence. I have hcg and clomid fpr pct but am begging to wonder if it’s not worth it. Thoughts would be appreciated

If you want to have children and be fertile then yes hop off or if you want to just be health then I'd advise hoping off to

 

[chunkichungi]

Bro why woudl you waste the most anabolic hormone and all these potential side effects without working out. Thats like having sex with a condom. You don't get the full experience anywhere close.

Trust me getting a mogger body will complement greatly your more masculine face on steroids. but you have to dose correctly. Take a low dose of steroids as those who take high doses get bloated faces from the test as It increase water retention, but you can reduce this by having a low body fat and using lower doses.

Most of these bloat face guys are bulking and running high doses at the same time, a bad combo.

And remember to take your pct to boost your sperm count. So enclomiphene as steroids temporarily stop fertility but with the enclomiphene it I will make it recover a lot faster.

I realize this post reply is months late but if your still around It might be useful for your future cycles if you plan to do so. Usually guys say its " just one" but a lot end up cycling on and off

Yeah I just hopped back on, how much hcg weekly do u reckon to maintain testicular size at 300mg of test e a week? Is there a difference in hair loss side effects between 300 a week and 500 a week do u reckon?

 

[AscensionMan98]

Yeah I just hopped back on, how much hcg weekly do u reckon to maintain testicular size at 300mg of test e a week? Is there a difference in hair loss side effects between 300 a week and 500 a week do u reckon?

Good to hear back from you bro it’s been a couple months since we last talked and sounds like you’re back on the bicycle. How’s the cycle been treating you so far and did you decide to gymcel this run or keep it more casual?
Curious how your strength gains are looking and if you’ve noticed any big changes in performance or fullness.

At 300 mg of Test E per week your LH and FSH will be completely shut down so your testicles stop getting the signal to produce testosterone. That’s where hCG comes in since it mimics LH and keeps your Leydig cells active so you maintain size and some fertility potential.

Most guys do well with about 1000 IU of hCG per week split into smaller doses like 350 IU on Monday Wednesday and Friday or 500 IU twice a week with your Test E shots. Test E has a half life of around 5 to 7 days so twice weekly injections keep your hormone levels stable. hCG has a shorter half life of about 36 hours which is why smaller and more frequent doses work better than large spaced out ones.

For hair maintenance it’s smart to add a DHT blocker like finasteride or the stronger dutasteride if you’re prone to shedding. Both lower DHT which is the main driver of hair loss while on cycle. You can also use minoxidil to help with regrowth either topical or oral. Some guys find the topical version makes their scalp itchy or irritated so the oral form can be a good alternative if that happens.

If you want to speed up hair growth MK677 ibutamoren can help by increasing growth hormone and IGF1 levels which can improve hair thickness and density. The only catch is that MK677 can slightly raise blood sugar and insulin resistance in some people so it’s best paired with metformin to offset that effect. Just note that metformin can upset your stomach for the first week or two causing watery or loose stools but that usually goes away once your body adjusts.

That said you don’t really need MK677 or metformin if you’re already running dutasteride and minoxidil together since that combo alone is strong enough for most people to maintain and even regrow hair while cycling.

 

[chunkichungi]

Good to hear back from you bro it’s been a couple months since we last talked and sounds like you’re back on the bicycle. How’s the cycle been treating you so far and did you decide to gymcel this run or keep it more casual?
Curious how your strength gains are looking and if you’ve noticed any big changes in performance or fullness.

At 300 mg of Test E per week your LH and FSH will be completely shut down so your testicles stop getting the signal to produce testosterone. That’s where hCG comes in since it mimics LH and keeps your Leydig cells active so you maintain size and some fertility potential.

Most guys do well with about 1000 IU of hCG per week split into smaller doses like 350 IU on Monday Wednesday and Friday or 500 IU twice a week with your Test E shots. Test E has a half life of around 5 to 7 days so twice weekly injections keep your hormone levels stable. hCG has a shorter half life of about 36 hours which is why smaller and more frequent doses work better than large spaced out ones.

For hair maintenance it’s smart to add a DHT blocker like finasteride or the stronger dutasteride if you’re prone to shedding. Both lower DHT which is the main driver of hair loss while on cycle. You can also use minoxidil to help with regrowth either topical or oral. Some guys find the topical version makes their scalp itchy or irritated so the oral form can be a good alternative if that happens.

If you want to speed up hair growth MK677 ibutamoren can help by increasing growth hormone and IGF1 levels which can improve hair thickness and density. The only catch is that MK677 can slightly raise blood sugar and insulin resistance in some people so it’s best paired with metformin to offset that effect. Just note that metformin can upset your stomach for the first week or two causing watery or loose stools but that usually goes away once your body adjusts.

That said you don’t really need MK677 or metformin if you’re already running dutasteride and minoxidil together since that combo alone is strong enough for most people to maintain and even regrow hair while cycling.

yeah no I stopped again man. Same issue with muscle pain and being stuck in bed for days. If I was really motivated I could have tried different testosterone suppliers and different oils its reconstituted with but I just decided to stop again. I had to take time off work and could barely move around my house

 

[AscensionMan98]

The reaction you described fits closely with what one usually see when testosterone comes from a source that is not regulated or pharmaceutical. Based on what you said about different testosterone suppliers it seems to me you used a underground source ( did you use a non doctor source?) but the pattern makes sense. Products outside of a pharmacy can be mixed with very strong carrier oils or solvents, and the preparation process may not remove tiny impurities. The body can react to those ingredients much more aggressively than it reacts to the hormone itself. When that happens your immune system treats the injection as a threat and floods your muscles and tissues with inflammatory chemicals. That is what causes the deep muscle pain, the flu like feeling and the difficulty moving for days. Pharmaceutical testosterone avoids this problem because the ingredients are consistent and sterile and the carrier oils are the same ones used safely in standard medical injections. If you ever decide to continue your cycle, using pharmacy grade medication is the only way to remove these variables and keep your treatment predictable and safe.

So how to get prescribed pharma grade test? Its simple. First you will get a real t test. See what your test levels are.Then here comes the genius part. You will photoshop the results to be very low and talk about how you feel sluggish and low energy and mention you noticed you tend to accumulate more body fat. All classic symptoms of low T. If your in your 20's they are usually reluctant to give you t but thats where the test comes hand.

Photoshop it to 250-300. Low enough that one can survive but explains the symptoms. Then you should get your prescription .

Some doctors might force you to a independent test so then the plan wont work but t levels can vary a good amount even throughout the day its not linear, so one could manipulate it. Usually they do that to cover any liability their end.

But some teledocs genuinely don't care at all. Just mention the symptoms and they send a prescription as long as the symptoms match.And again if you go especially to any youth clinic with your test results high chance you can get a prescription right off the bat

 

[chunkichungi]

The reaction you described fits closely with what one usually see when testosterone comes from a source that is not regulated or pharmaceutical. Based on what you said about different testosterone suppliers it seems to me you used a underground source ( did you use a non doctor source?) but the pattern makes sense. Products outside of a pharmacy can be mixed with very strong carrier oils or solvents, and the preparation process may not remove tiny impurities. The body can react to those ingredients much more aggressively than it reacts to the hormone itself. When that happens your immune system treats the injection as a threat and floods your muscles and tissues with inflammatory chemicals. That is what causes the deep muscle pain, the flu like feeling and the difficulty moving for days. Pharmaceutical testosterone avoids this problem because the ingredients are consistent and sterile and the carrier oils are the same ones used safely in standard medical injections. If you ever decide to continue your cycle, using pharmacy grade medication is the only way to remove these variables and keep your treatment predictable and safe.

So how to get prescribed pharma grade test? Its simple. First you will get a real t test. See what your test levels are.Then here comes the genius part. You will photoshop the results to be very low and talk about how you feel sluggish and low energy and mention you noticed you tend to accumulate more body fat. All classic symptoms of low T. If your in your 20's they are usually reluctant to give you t but thats where the test comes hand.

Photoshop it to 250-300. Low enough that one can survive but explains the symptoms. Then you should get your prescription .

Some doctors might force you to a independent test so then the plan wont work but t levels can vary a good amount even throughout the day its not linear, so one could manipulate it. Usually they do that to cover any liability their end.

But some teledocs genuinely don't care at all. Just mention the symptoms and they send a prescription as long as the symptoms match.And again if you go especially to any youth clinic with your test results high chance you can get a prescription right off the bat

Ok if I go on in the future I will try this thanks

 

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Good to hear back from you bro it’s been a couple months since we last talked and sounds like you’re back on the bicycle. How’s the cycle been treating you so far and did you decide to gymcel this run or keep it more casual?
Curious how your strength gains are looking and if you’ve noticed any big changes in performance or fullness.

At 300 mg of Test E per week your LH and FSH will be completely shut down so your testicles stop getting the signal to produce testosterone. That’s where hCG comes in since it mimics LH and keeps your Leydig cells active so you maintain size and some fertility potential.

Most guys do well with about 1000 IU of hCG per week split into smaller doses like 350 IU on Monday Wednesday and Friday or 500 IU twice a week with your Test E shots. Test E has a half life of around 5 to 7 days so twice weekly injections keep your hormone levels stable. hCG has a shorter half life of about 36 hours which is why smaller and more frequent doses work better than large spaced out ones.

For hair maintenance it’s smart to add a DHT blocker like finasteride or the stronger dutasteride if you’re prone to shedding. Both lower DHT which is the main driver of hair loss while on cycle. You can also use minoxidil to help with regrowth either topical or oral. Some guys find the topical version makes their scalp itchy or irritated so the oral form can be a good alternative if that happens.

If you want to speed up hair growth MK677 ibutamoren can help by increasing growth hormone and IGF1 levels which can improve hair thickness and density. The only catch is that MK677 can slightly raise blood sugar and insulin resistance in some people so it’s best paired with metformin to offset that effect. Just note that metformin can upset your stomach for the first week or two causing watery or loose stools but that usually goes away once your body adjusts.

That said you don’t really need MK677 or metformin if you’re already running dutasteride and minoxidil together since that combo alone is strong enough for most people to maintain and even regrow hair while cycling.

Also where can i get metformin? Live in UK