Should I try and softmax or just give up?

[Foreverbrad]

I only got 2 likes on a new tinder account in 24 hours, made with a new SIM etc etc.

Is there any point trying to softmax out of this hole? All that's really available quickly is tanning and pro photos but my gut is telling me that this will just not be enough to make a significant difference. It's crazy that I used to be able to get 100+ likes with these photos and sexual market inflation has finally sent my SMV to zero.

 

[Lorsss]

go out, know new girls and settle down for a low tier Becky, if you really want to have sex (besides protitutes)

 

[Foreverbrad]

I have zero social circle and I'm NEET and I have massive social anxiety and autism.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

a few years ago you got 100 likes and now you only get 2 with the same pics?

I know hypergamy does get worse year on year and Ive even done some tests using a gym maxxed HTN fish i used in 2019 vs now and he did noticably worse but still I find that claim a bit of a strech to believe

Thats like the difference between chadlite results and low tier normie/borderline subhuman results if im being honest

 

[Foreverbrad]

a few years ago you got 100 likes and now you only get 2 with the same pics?

I know hypergamy does get worse year on year and Ive even done some tests using a gym maxxed HTN fish i used in 2019 vs now and he did noticably worse but still I find that claim a bit of a strech to believe

Thats like the difference between chadlite results and low tier normie/borderline subhuman results if im being honest

It sounds insane but it's true. What were the numbers for your HTNfish?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

It sounds insane but it's true. What were the numbers for your HTNfish?

He was a borderline HTN/chadlite and I larped 6'2 in his bio


I remeber he got 100 likes when I tried it in 2019, tried it again recentyl and it was like 60-70.

What was a lot more striking to be honest was that in 2019 he got a good number of hot girls pop up to him literally propositioning sex straight off the bat, theyd normally ask to see his instagram to check he was real before hooking up at whic point i just ended the ocnvo cos it was wfake

When I tried it this time round he only got first messaged by unattractive girls tbh, he still matched a good number of hot girls but barely any messaged him frist or seemed DTF straight off the bat so the standards defo went up for sure

 

[Foreverbrad]

I'm MTN at best and relied heavily on body halo so I guess the issue is that now every guy on the app is gymmaxxed I no longer have any selling point whatsoever.

 

[Deleted member 15791]

just inject and the anxiety will go away

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Post pics

 

[Chadethnic101]

He was a borderline HTN/chadlite and I larped 6'2 in his bio


I remeber he got 100 likes when I tried it in 2019, tried it again recentyl and it was like 60-70.

What was a lot more striking to be honest was that in 2019 he got a good number of hot girls pop up to him literally propositioning sex straight off the bat, theyd normally ask to see his instagram to check he was real before hooking up at whic point i just ended the ocnvo cos it was wfake

When I tried it this time round he only got first messaged by unattractive girls tbh, he still matched a good number of hot girls but barely any messaged him frist or seemed DTF straight off the bat so the standards defo went up for sure

OLD is dead bro pretty much
The hottest girls only use to increase Instagram followers nowadays

I did very bad back in 2020 when I tried I have improved since but scared to go back on I can't take it mentally if I do shit again JFL

 

[Lihito]

I only got 2 likes on a new tinder account in 24 hours, made with a new SIM etc etc.

Is there any point trying to softmax out of this hole? All that's really available quickly is tanning and pro photos but my gut is telling me that this will just not be enough to make a significant difference. It's crazy that I used to be able to get 100+ likes with these photos and sexual market inflation has finally sent my SMV to zero.

Pics in PM

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

OLD is dead bro pretty much
The hottest girls only use to increase Instagram followers nowadays

I did very bad back in 2020 when I tried I have improved since but scared to go back on I can't take it mentally if I do shit again JFL

having seen your pics im very suprised to hear that-

Honestly I just dont have any other options for reliably meeting girls.

I dont have a social cirlce anymore- I tried going out to bars alone a few times but bouncers would often not let me in fro being alone and Id get shit tested by girls too much for being therer alone even if I did get in

 

[Chadethnic101]

having seen your pics im very suprised to hear that-

Honestly I just dont have any other options for reliably meeting girls.

I dont have a social cirlce anymore- I tried going out to bars alone a few times but bouncers would often not let me in fro being alone and Id get shit tested by girls too much for being therer alone even if I did get in

I was a bit shocked too I was a bit fatter then but no way as much as most people in UK lol

Mind my pics were dogshit autistic selfies so probably why ngl mainly, plan to get DSLR and have good pics taken of me, will mirror them too as I hate looking at myself in non mirrored pics lol

Same here man, we need to be club buddies or sum shit hahah

My friends don't go out much anymore and they care for not much these days
Went out alone last week, was okay but it can feel awkward at times
You should just continue using OLD, why don't you go out with the girls u date and her friends
Get a bit of a social circle maybe? Obvs not ideal but still

Passing that test is easy man- just say either I've lost my friends
Or my mate works here so he asked me to come down
They don't question it tbh

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I was a bit shocked too I was a bit fatter then but no way as much as most people in UK lol

Mind my pics were dogshit autistic selfies so probably why ngl mainly, plan to get DSLR and have good pics taken of me, will mirror them too as I hate looking at myself in non mirrored pics lol

Same here man, we need to be club buddies or sum shit hahah

My friends don't go out much anymore and they care for not much these days
Went out alone last week, was okay but it can feel awkward at times
You should just continue using OLD, why don't you go out with the girls u date and her friends
Get a bit of a social circle maybe? Obvs not ideal but still

Passing that test is easy man- just say either I've lost my friends
Or my mate works here so he asked me to come down
They don't question it tbh

I would be happy to go out together but feel like you face mog me by quite a lot tbh so might be a bit brutal for me- guess I heightmog (and maybe body mog? havent seen your physique tbh).

Yeah I should get better at passing that test

Tbh I have quite a specific life circumstacne that I wont go into which is why I lost all my friends- nothing to do with the actual friends but I had to move somewher eelse and dont know anyone haha

 

[Chadethnic101]

I would be happy to go out together but feel like you face mog me by quite a lot tbh so might be a bit brutal for me- guess I heightmog (and maybe body mog? havent seen your physique tbh).

Yeah I should get better at passing that test

Tbh I have quite a specific life circumstacne that I wont go into which is why I lost all my friends- nothing to do with the actual friends but I had to move somewher eelse and dont know anyone haha

Yeh u height mog me , this is my physique

Yeah I'd be down to see ppl from here as long as they seem normal which you do lol

Next time try it, it works everytime tbh

Yeah moving somewhere else in 20s for work or whatever is tough tbh
Hope things work out dude

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Yeh u height mog me , this is my physique

Yeah I'd be down to see ppl from here as long as they seem normal which you do lol

Next time try it, it works everytime tbh

Yeah moving somewhere else in 20s for work or whatever is tough tbh
Hope things work out dude

what about the bouncers?

they ever funny about letting you in?

I also like to try going out after ive done something to chnage my look ie: elevator shoes vs none, tight t shirt where you can see i lift vs normal loose t shirt where im dyel, hair etc to see if i get more IOIs or not

Cant say ant of the chnagesf imade a really big noticable difference individually but i have gradually gotten more succesffull with gilrs over the years so I guess all these marginal gains have aggregated to make a differnce.

Yeah id be happy to meet- I live in the North got my own flat and stuffd have one housemate but you could just larp that youre my uni friend or something would be fine

 

[Chadethnic101]

what about the bouncers?

they ever funny about letting you in?

I also like to try going out after ive done something to chnage my look ie: elevator shoes vs none, tight t shirt where you can see i lift vs normal loose t shirt where im dyel, hair etc to see if i get more IOIs or not

Cant say ant of the chnagesf imade a really big noticable difference individually but i have gradually gotten more succesffull with gilrs over the years so I guess all these marginal gains have aggregated to make a differnce.

Yeah id be happy to meet- I live in the North got my own flat and stuffd have one housemate but you could just larp that youre my uni friend or something would be fine

If bouncers get funny just say my mates are inside lol usually they're fine and don't question anything

Or I'll try chatting to people in the queue, then they think I'm with them

There's always an easy excuse you can give tbh

Say I'm driving I'll just say I was designated driver but lost my mates lol

Yeah defo that's a good thing to try then you can track the progress sort of, obvs every night is different but gives a little data to use
Yeah they probably have made a difference over time for you

Sounds good bro I'm down south but I like the north tbh can meet some point I'll pm soon around what month etc

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

If bouncers get funny just say my mates are inside lol usually they're fine and don't question anything

Or I'll try chatting to people in the queue, then they think I'm with them

There's always an easy excuse you can give tbh

Say I'm driving I'll just say I was designated driver but lost my mates lol

Yeah defo that's a good thing to try then you can track the progress sort of, obvs every night is different but gives a little data to use
Yeah they probably have made a difference over time for you

Sounds good bro I'm down south but I like the north tbh can meet some point I'll pm soon around what month etc

Im from London and mt parents are there so Im also in London quite a bit.

I think going out is way better in smaller cities though.

In lodnon the city is so big and all the nightlife is right in the centre but most people (inc me and all my fiends) live in the suburbs so its ala 40 minute cab home which is like £60 lol.

Here Ive got a flat right in the city centre which is a 5 minute walk from all the clubs and nightlife, its a lot easier to pull a girl when you can just say wanna come back to mine- its just round the corner a few mintues walk vs wanna come back to mine, its just a 40 minute cab to the other fucking side of the city and oh yeah can you ping me 30 quid for your half if you dont mind JFL