Should I try going to a bar? Need real advice

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Hey I have an idea of going to some regular bar and order couple of drinks and just sit there to see if I get any IOIs from girls or even approaches. I've never been to a bar before in my life and clubs seems like a bad idea because I can't dance and hate normie pop music.

Main reason why I want to do it is to gauge my attractiveness to women.

Do you guys honestly think it's a good idea of measurement?

I think if I dont get approached in such setting that would 90% mean I am invisible to women.

Please post your opinion and actual experiences in a bar setting. Have you ever gotten IOIs or approaches in a bar? If so include your PSL level/height.
 
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Girls will not approach men in a bar
 
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@eduardkoopman

Got any opinions? I think you are experienced with this
Girls will not approach men in a bar
What about IOIs? Ofc I dont expect to get approached but at least some looks or eye contact does it happen to psl4-6 men?
 
They don't approach...
Us men are shit-scared of approaching women, imagine how they feel?

They will stare and look though. I've had it myself


The only exception is when they are very drunk and in a nightclub enviroment. they will approach Chad and touch him
 
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idk about going alone to a bar bro
you should drunkmaxx and hit on all the chicks
 
never got approached IN a bar. had 10 or 11 approaches this year and they were all outside, at the beach or at festivals. 1 was in front of a bar but i was in so many bars and never got approached. had some ioi‘s there but tbh most girls go there with other chicks or with their boyfriend so chances are very low they approach you
 
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Can you elaborate more on how it looked like?
Whats your PSL and height.

I'm 6ft and a bald upper-tier normie i guess..

I've had girls look at me in the bars loads of times..

A few weeks ago two girls invited me to join them on their table in a Wetherspoons pub in the day time. One was ugly and one was ok looking. I declined. :feelshaha:
 
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I'm 6ft and a bald upper-tier normie i guess..

I've had girls look at me in the bars loads of times..

A few weeks ago two girls invited me to join them on their table in a Wetherspoons pub in the day time. One was ugly and one was ok looking. I declined. :feelshaha:
So do you think bars are a good test to gauge your level of invisibility in eyes of women?

never got approached IN a bar. had 10 or 11 approaches this year and they were all outside, at the beach or at festivals. 1 was in front of a bar but i was in so many bars and never got approached. had some ioi‘s there but tbh most girls go there with other chicks or with their boyfriend so chances are very low they approach you
PSL and height?
 
So do you think bars are a good test to gauge your level of invisibility in eyes of women?


PSL and height?
between 5.75 and 6 depending on diet, hair, skin and situation (shirtless or not etc). 5‘9.5
 
between 5.75 and 6 depending on diet, hair, skin and situation (shirtless or not etc). 5‘9.5
I see. So do you think bars are good test just for IOIs, because I dont expect to get approached with my shit face. What do you think, should I try it or not?
 
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Got approached at bars but the girl is usually shitfaced, sober girls usually just look from a distance and stare multiple times.

Sometimes they do approach you for a talk or asking if you could buy them a drink. I also got girls asking me if they could get me a drink, although this is very rare and you should be a 10/10 in their eyes for them to do that.
 
Got approached at bars but the girl is usually shitfaced, sober girls usually just look from a distance and stare multiple times.

Sometimes they do approach you for a talk or asking if you could buy them a drink. I also got girls asking me if they could get me a drink, although this is very rare and you should be a 10/10 in their eyes for them to do that.
Psl and height again? And same questions as above. I never got approached by even shitfaced girl so yeah... whatever.
 
They don't approach...
Us men are shit-scared of approaching women, imagine how they feel?

They will stare and look though. I've had it myself


The only exception is when they are very drunk and in a nightclub enviroment. they will approach Chad and touch him
When women approach they usually dont get rejected, I doubt they are scared.
 
FOIDS APROACH IF THEY'RE ATTRACTED TO YOU. ASK ANY 7PSL DUDE.
 
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Psl and height again? And same questions as above. I never got approached by even shitfaced girl so yeah... whatever.
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That is him and he is like 6ft as well if I remember well.
 
Psl and height again? And same questions as above. I never got approached by even shitfaced girl so yeah... whatever.
6´2 and got rated between 6.5-7psl by multiple members on this site
 
I see. So do you think bars are good test just for IOIs, because I dont expect to get approached with my shit face. What do you think, should I try it or not?
u would get more iois if u just walked around in a place where many girls are tbh. like a supermarket with girl products etc
 
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@eduardkoopman

Got any opinions? I think you are experienced with this

What about IOIs? Ofc I dont expect to get approached but at least some looks or eye contact does it happen to psl4-6 men?
I was and am not a night type of person. But I have some experience with going out. And I can share that.

I would do that test, if I were you. Because there's no risk in this test.

I (psl4, 188cm 6'2) have tried the aloof method as well.
I never got approached, by women.
The only guys I have seen being approached, are the high status people (DJ/barman/guys with alot of women around him already) position in the bar; and the really good looking dudes.

What women, do do. Is give invitation signals, to dudes that aren't really hot but above average.
It's most often in the form of eyecontact + smile.

I was to ugly to get both of the above mentioned happening to me. So, I ended up doing all the chatting up. I hated bars, because I don't drink.

Example video of invitations (or not). In a bar type of setting.

 
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I was and am not a night type of person. But I have some experience with going out. And I can share that.

I would do that test, if I were you. Because there's no risk in this test.

I (psl4, 188cm 6'2) have tried the aloof method as well.
I never got approached, by women.
The only guys I have seen being approached, are the high status people (DJ/barman/guys with alot of women around him already) position in the bar; and the really good looking dudes.

What women, do do. Is give invitation signals, to dudes that aren't really hot but above average.
It's most often in the form of eyecontact + smile.

I was to ugly to get both of the above mentioned happening to me. So, I ended up doing all the chatting up. I hated bars, because I don't drink.

Example video of invitations (or not). In a bar type of setting.


5:45 in that video is gonna be me JFL. Yea anyway thanks for good reply, I will try to go this Saturday and see what happens. If I dont get any IOIs that means it's certainly over for me.
 
5:45 in that video is gonna be me JFL.
That was me also, @ 5:45. Often, at least. Therefore, I went just chatting up instead of waiting for IOI's at some point. Because, them IOI's didn't come. And if I waited for IOI's; like that guy does at 5:45. I would look like him.
Most normla/regular dudes, wait for the IOI. Which is imo a correct strategy. Because otherwise, it's going to be mass rejection. Like I experienced; because I chose not to wait for IOI's. But used the numbersgame approach.
The only upside from numbersgame approach; is that from afar it looks less bad; then standing around like that guy @5:45. Because that looks even worse, then talking with women (even though you're getting shut down, 90+%).

Like that short haired Richard guy, gets an IOI from those 2 women already when walking in. That dude has good social noticing skills; because he notices it and goes to these 2 women only. And he has a good interaction with them, therefore because these 2 women liked him from the "get go". Where Richard an aspie, he might not notice that when he walks in, and go chat up random women that had send no ioi's and have a hugh rejection rate.
 
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Not worth it IMO if you’re below 5 PSL minimum unless you’re looking to get approached by landwhales (and that too rarely).
 

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