Should I visit a doctor for my mental health?

[jigglemaxx]

nigga told GENGAR out of all people this

I’m just giving my advice

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

you will be bombarded with calls and check ups

I don’t think they would do that in the Netherlands.

 

[resting]

Gengar: Doc, I think something’s wrong. Mentally.

Doc: Take off your pants and bend over, you’re getting a prostate exam.

its alright bro... one time i slid off my bike

next moment i was in hopsital

trying my hardest not to get an erection while doc was feeling up my balls.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Join a discord group about this topic, not some shitty site

Well you see, I’ve been a part of this shitty site for 8 years.

 

[zenmanic]

wait my bad I hadnt

because ur grey af and have so much aura

okay ok a real note, if something within yourself made you consider therapy then look into it and go to therapy, and look for real dopamine in nature too, it’ll help if your having downs

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I think he really just want a diagnoses & to see what he can do without medication.

Exactly. Actually after that I’ll just leave it at that, no self-healing either. Just gonna let it be.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I see. May I ask for what?

A mood-related disorder, like (seasonal) depression or something.

 

[7zyzz7]

https://www.amazon.com/Hario-Plastic-Coffee-Dripper-Clear/dp/B001RBTSMM?s=home-garden

Drinking coffee gives me headaches. Not immediately, but a day or two after.

if thats the case then you are probably not eating regularly/enough and you are probably low on sodium. solution eat more/more often and salt food liberally. make sure the coffee is taken with adaquate sugar and eaten around a meal. 1-2tbsp sugar/cup

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THE ROOT CAUSE OF COFFEE JITTERS​

Both Peat and Haidut converge on the same primary explanation: jitters are not caused by caffeine itself — they are caused by caffeine raising metabolic rate and glucose demand on an empty stomach, triggering adrenaline release from hypoglycemia.


Peat states directly:

"Experiments that study the effects of coffee taken on an empty stomach are measuring the effects of increased temperature and metabolic rate, combined with increased adrenaline (resulting from the decrease of glucose), and so confuse the issue of caffeine's intrinsic effects."

So the "caffeine stress response" is really a hypoglycemia/adrenaline response — not an intrinsic property of caffeine. Caffeine increases cellular glucose consumption, and if blood sugar is not maintained, adrenaline surges to compensate — producing the classic shaky, anxious, heart-racing experience people attribute to caffeine itself.

---

SECONDARY CAUSES OF COFFEE INTOLERANCE​

1. Liver dysfunction
Haidut is explicit: "the stress response is mostly due to liver issues — caffeine metabolism is used as a clinical test for liver disease." Poor caffeine clearance (from a sluggish liver) means caffeine accumulates and its stimulatory effects are prolonged and intensified. He notes caffeine initially flushes fat from the liver into the bloodstream during the first 1–4 days, which accounts for the acute stress response in people new to coffee or resuming it after a break.


2. Hypothyroidism / low metabolic rate
Peat links abnormal caffeine sensitivity to hypothyroidism: people with low thyroid produce more adrenaline to compensate for inefficient glucose metabolism — meaning they are already running on stress hormones, and caffeine's metabolic stimulus pushes them further into adrenaline territory.


3. Low CO2 / hyperventilation tendency
Peat notes that people "abnormally sensitive to caffeine and elevated extracellular potassium" tend toward hyperventilation — a condition worsened by hypothyroidism and high adrenaline. Low CO2 causes muscle cramps, heart palpitations, and anxiety — symptoms easily confused with caffeine sensitivity.


4. Temporary adaptation period
Haidut cites studies showing the stress response to caffeine lasts no more than 4 days, after which chronic caffeine use actually lowers stress hormones, reverses insulin resistance, and normalizes blood pressure. He says: "many people are experiencing a stress response to caffeine" but emphasizes it is temporary and resolves with consistent use.

---

HOW TO BETTER TOLERATE COFFEE — SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS​

1. Always take coffee with food and sugar — never on an empty stomach
Peat's primary practical recommendation. He describes women with apparent "hypoglycemia symptoms" from coffee who were told to try "two ounces of coffee with cream or milk along with a meal" — and found this eliminated their symptoms entirely and actually reduced their hypoglycemia between meals.


Haidut echoes this directly: "Caffeine increases your metabolic rate, so it's important to take it with food, including enough sugar."


2. Add milk or cream
Peat specifically mentions coffee with cream or milk as the correct preparation — the fat and protein blunt the glycemic response and buffer the metabolic stimulus.


3. Take thiamine (Vitamin B1) before caffeine
Haidut's most specific tolerance recommendation: "Since acute caffeine intake is known to increase lactate, for people experiencing this I would suggest taking a decent dose of thiamine (vitamin B1) about an hour before caffeine and then repeat this dose before every other caffeine dose during the day. Ray has said 300 mg every 4 hours is fine, but some people may need more than that to balance the increase in lactic acid."


4. Start with small amounts
Peat specifically suggests starting with "two ounces" of coffee rather than a full cup — allowing the body to adapt gradually without overwhelming glucose reserves.


5. Fix the liver
Haidut notes caffeine intolerance primarily reflects liver dysfunction and that consistently drinking coffee (starting small) is itself the best liver remedy — reversing liver fibrosis and fatty liver in as little as 2 weeks. For those who truly cannot tolerate caffeine even with food, he suggests a high protein diet (35% of calories) as an alternative way to restore liver health first.


6. Restore thyroid function
Peat describes caffeine as having "remarkable parallels to thyroid and progesterone" — when thyroid is adequate, caffeine's effects are smooth and beneficial. When thyroid is low, caffeine amplifies the already-elevated stress hormone state. Correcting hypothyroidism is therefore foundational to caffeine tolerance.


7. Push through the initial 1–4 day adaptation
Haidut explicitly advises that the initial stress response is temporary and resolves within 4 days as the liver adapts. Quitting and restarting repeatedly keeps resetting this adaptation period and perpetuates the intolerance.


8. Coffee's own nutritional content helps tolerance
Both documents note coffee is a significant source of magnesium and niacin — both of which support glucose metabolism and reduce the adrenaline response. Peat states: "Its niacin and magnesium are clearly important" to coffee's beneficial effects. These nutrients in coffee itself partially buffer its metabolic demands.


Based strictly on what the documents actually say, here are five reasons coffee could cause headaches:

• Hypoglycemia / adrenaline spike from taking coffee on an empty stomach — Peat is explicit that caffeine raises metabolic rate and increases glucose demand; without food, blood sugar drops, adrenaline surges to compensate, and this cascade — including vascular changes from adrenaline — is a primary headache trigger. He states ice cream, orange juice, or salty carbohydrate can rapidly abort this type of headache/migraine
• Serotonin-mediated vascular disturbance — Peat's primary explanation for migraines is excess serotonin causing venous engorgement of the brain's pia mater while simultaneously constricting arterioles. Coffee on an empty stomach or combined with gut irritation can transiently raise serotonin; the resulting vascular asymmetry (constricted arteries + engorged veins) produces both the visual aura and the pain
• Caffeine withdrawal — Haidut notes that people who consume caffeine regularly experience well-documented withdrawal headaches when they stop or miss a dose, due to the rebound vasodilation that occurs when caffeine's adenosine-blocking effect is removed. He also notes quitting and restarting repeatedly keeps triggering this cycle
• Estrogen dominance worsening coffee's vascular effects — Peat links migraines strongly to estrogen excess, noting estrogen inhibits MAO-A (the enzyme that breaks down serotonin), raises serotonin synthesis enzymes, and occurs more in women premenstrually and periovulatory. Coffee's stimulatory effects in an estrogen-dominant state would amplify the underlying serotonin excess that was already present
• Lactic acid accumulation from caffeine — Haidut explicitly notes caffeine increases lactate production, and recommends thiamine to counteract this. Lactic acid accumulation causes cerebral vasodilation and is a known headache trigger — which is why Haidut specifically recommends 300 mg thiamine before each dose of caffeine for people experiencing these effects

 

[Paul.jnxy]

A mood-related disorder, like (seasonal) depression or something.

Ahhh I see.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

its alright bro... one time i slid off my bike

next moment i was in hopsital

trying my hardest not to get an erection while doc was feeling up my balls.

I mean, I am envisioning that the doc in your example was a tight, 19 year old female doctor, and not a near pension-aged male doctor, r-right?

 

[Nerogen]

Yes because i care for u

 

[jigglemaxx]

Well you see, I’ve been a part of this shitty site for 8 years.

I see it that way since you have an unhealthy relationship with it and it looks like you cope a lot with it

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

wait my bad I hadnt

okay ok a real note, if something within yourself made you consider therapy then look into it and go to therapy, and look for real dopamine in nature too, it’ll help if your having downs

it’s ok I was making a joke off of your user title.

 

[Grievous]

yes just dont accept medication

 

[shedontluv-U]

“Mates”? Are you British? I wouldn’t go into therapy, I just wanted a formal diagnosis (or not).

Holy nah bro

my google traduction is off you know bro

 

[resting]

I mean, I am envisioning that the doc in your example was a tight, 19 year old female doctor, and not a near pension-aged male doctor, r-right?

well... I'll allow the reader open for interpretation

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

https://www.amazon.com/Hario-Plastic-Coffee-Dripper-Clear/dp/B001RBTSMM?s=home-garden

if thats the case then you are probably not eating regularly/enough and you are probably low on sodium. solution eat more/more often and salt food liberally. make sure the coffee is taken with adaquate sugar and eaten around a meal. 1-2tbsp sugar/cup

---

THE ROOT CAUSE OF COFFEE JITTERS​

Both Peat and Haidut converge on the same primary explanation: jitters are not caused by caffeine itself — they are caused by caffeine raising metabolic rate and glucose demand on an empty stomach, triggering adrenaline release from hypoglycemia.


Peat states directly:




So the "caffeine stress response" is really a hypoglycemia/adrenaline response — not an intrinsic property of caffeine. Caffeine increases cellular glucose consumption, and if blood sugar is not maintained, adrenaline surges to compensate — producing the classic shaky, anxious, heart-racing experience people attribute to caffeine itself.

---

SECONDARY CAUSES OF COFFEE INTOLERANCE​

1. Liver dysfunction
Haidut is explicit: "the stress response is mostly due to liver issues — caffeine metabolism is used as a clinical test for liver disease." Poor caffeine clearance (from a sluggish liver) means caffeine accumulates and its stimulatory effects are prolonged and intensified. He notes caffeine initially flushes fat from the liver into the bloodstream during the first 1–4 days, which accounts for the acute stress response in people new to coffee or resuming it after a break.


2. Hypothyroidism / low metabolic rate
Peat links abnormal caffeine sensitivity to hypothyroidism: people with low thyroid produce more adrenaline to compensate for inefficient glucose metabolism — meaning they are already running on stress hormones, and caffeine's metabolic stimulus pushes them further into adrenaline territory.


3. Low CO2 / hyperventilation tendency
Peat notes that people "abnormally sensitive to caffeine and elevated extracellular potassium" tend toward hyperventilation — a condition worsened by hypothyroidism and high adrenaline. Low CO2 causes muscle cramps, heart palpitations, and anxiety — symptoms easily confused with caffeine sensitivity.


4. Temporary adaptation period
Haidut cites studies showing the stress response to caffeine lasts no more than 4 days, after which chronic caffeine use actually lowers stress hormones, reverses insulin resistance, and normalizes blood pressure. He says: "many people are experiencing a stress response to caffeine" but emphasizes it is temporary and resolves with consistent use.

---

HOW TO BETTER TOLERATE COFFEE — SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS​

1. Always take coffee with food and sugar — never on an empty stomach
Peat's primary practical recommendation. He describes women with apparent "hypoglycemia symptoms" from coffee who were told to try "two ounces of coffee with cream or milk along with a meal" — and found this eliminated their symptoms entirely and actually reduced their hypoglycemia between meals.


Haidut echoes this directly: "Caffeine increases your metabolic rate, so it's important to take it with food, including enough sugar."


2. Add milk or cream
Peat specifically mentions coffee with cream or milk as the correct preparation — the fat and protein blunt the glycemic response and buffer the metabolic stimulus.


3. Take thiamine (Vitamin B1) before caffeine
Haidut's most specific tolerance recommendation: "Since acute caffeine intake is known to increase lactate, for people experiencing this I would suggest taking a decent dose of thiamine (vitamin B1) about an hour before caffeine and then repeat this dose before every other caffeine dose during the day. Ray has said 300 mg every 4 hours is fine, but some people may need more than that to balance the increase in lactic acid."


4. Start with small amounts
Peat specifically suggests starting with "two ounces" of coffee rather than a full cup — allowing the body to adapt gradually without overwhelming glucose reserves.


5. Fix the liver
Haidut notes caffeine intolerance primarily reflects liver dysfunction and that consistently drinking coffee (starting small) is itself the best liver remedy — reversing liver fibrosis and fatty liver in as little as 2 weeks. For those who truly cannot tolerate caffeine even with food, he suggests a high protein diet (35% of calories) as an alternative way to restore liver health first.


6. Restore thyroid function
Peat describes caffeine as having "remarkable parallels to thyroid and progesterone" — when thyroid is adequate, caffeine's effects are smooth and beneficial. When thyroid is low, caffeine amplifies the already-elevated stress hormone state. Correcting hypothyroidism is therefore foundational to caffeine tolerance.


7. Push through the initial 1–4 day adaptation
Haidut explicitly advises that the initial stress response is temporary and resolves within 4 days as the liver adapts. Quitting and restarting repeatedly keeps resetting this adaptation period and perpetuates the intolerance.


8. Coffee's own nutritional content helps tolerance
Both documents note coffee is a significant source of magnesium and niacin — both of which support glucose metabolism and reduce the adrenaline response. Peat states: "Its niacin and magnesium are clearly important" to coffee's beneficial effects. These nutrients in coffee itself partially buffer its metabolic demands.


Based strictly on what the documents actually say, here are five reasons coffee could cause headaches:

• Hypoglycemia / adrenaline spike from taking coffee on an empty stomach — Peat is explicit that caffeine raises metabolic rate and increases glucose demand; without food, blood sugar drops, adrenaline surges to compensate, and this cascade — including vascular changes from adrenaline — is a primary headache trigger. He states ice cream, orange juice, or salty carbohydrate can rapidly abort this type of headache/migraine
• Serotonin-mediated vascular disturbance — Peat's primary explanation for migraines is excess serotonin causing venous engorgement of the brain's pia mater while simultaneously constricting arterioles. Coffee on an empty stomach or combined with gut irritation can transiently raise serotonin; the resulting vascular asymmetry (constricted arteries + engorged veins) produces both the visual aura and the pain
• Caffeine withdrawal — Haidut notes that people who consume caffeine regularly experience well-documented withdrawal headaches when they stop or miss a dose, due to the rebound vasodilation that occurs when caffeine's adenosine-blocking effect is removed. He also notes quitting and restarting repeatedly keeps triggering this cycle
• Estrogen dominance worsening coffee's vascular effects — Peat links migraines strongly to estrogen excess, noting estrogen inhibits MAO-A (the enzyme that breaks down serotonin), raises serotonin synthesis enzymes, and occurs more in women premenstrually and periovulatory. Coffee's stimulatory effects in an estrogen-dominant state would amplify the underlying serotonin excess that was already present
• Lactic acid accumulation from caffeine — Haidut explicitly notes caffeine increases lactate production, and recommends thiamine to counteract this. Lactic acid accumulation causes cerebral vasodilation and is a known headache trigger — which is why Haidut specifically recommends 300 mg thiamine before each dose of caffeine for people experiencing these effects

Ahh yes, I don’t add sugar to my coffee, I just drink it black (like the way I like my men ), but then again when I buy iced coffee, I get the same effect, and that has plenty of sugar in it as well.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Ahhh I see.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Yes because i care for u

Sub5 caring for sub3. Still a better love story than Twilight.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I see it that way since you have an unhealthy relationship with it and it looks like you cope a lot with it

I don’t cope, I just face things head-on, sober.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

yes just dont accept medication

That’s the plan! I won’t go into therapy nor take medication.

 

[jigglemaxx]

I don’t cope, I just face things head-on, sober.

That’s just the same thing, different mouths

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Holy nah bro

my google traduction is off you know bro

Oi m8, ma cultcha ain’t youse to use!

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

well... I'll allow the reader open for interpretation

You’re funny, bhaijan.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

That’s just the same thing, different mouths

I disagree.. coping means you don’t accept things and try to find ways around it, to deal with a situation. Facing it head-on means you don’t do that.

 

[jigglemaxx]

I disagree.. coping means you don’t accept things and try to find ways around it, to deal with a situation. Facing it head-on means you don’t do that.

There a different types of copes, which is exactly your situation, your telling yourself that you are facing it, so take a moment and reevaluate what you are actually doing and realize it