Should they get a second chance ?

[Saint Casanova]

If someone generally had a good life.


For example, a good friendship group, good girlfriend, good family, good trajectory for a solid career ect and they fuck it all up via their stupid actions, should they get another chance?

 

[larpcel]

Depends on their stupid actions tbh

 

[Joeseminate]

If someone generally had a good life.


For example, a good friendship group, good girlfriend, good family, good trajectory for a solid career ect and they fuck it all up via their stupid actions, should they get another chance?

Everyone deserves a second chance never give up

 

[Centurion_Hunter]

If someone generally had a good life.


For example, a good friendship group, good girlfriend, good family, good trajectory for a solid career ect and they fuck it all up via their stupid actions, should they get another chance?

Shoot for your dreams keep grindin keep huslin

 

[160cmcurry]

no, actions have consequences. you take what you have as granted

you move reckless, careless, short sighted, because you’ve never actually paid the price before

 

[Saint Casanova]

no, actions have consequences. you take what you have as granted

you move reckless, careless, short sighted, because you’ve never actually paid the price before

Hard truth tbh. Should they have any chances of a decent life again?

 

[160cmcurry]

Hard truth tbh. Should they have any chances of a decent life again?

an alternate path would be better

stopping, reassessing, accepting that they fucked up instead of expecting reality to bend back for them

because once you fuck it up, the goal isn’t to “win” anymore

it’s to minimize damage

to preserve whatever credibility, health, time, or opportunity is still salvageable

 

[Seven]

depends

 

[Saint Casanova]

depends

On ?

 

[Seven]

On ?

on their actions

 

[Saint Casanova]

an alternate path would be better

stopping, reassessing, accepting that they fucked up instead of expecting reality to bend back for them

because once you fuck it up, the goal isn’t to “win” anymore

it’s to minimize damage

to preserve whatever credibility, health, time, or opportunity is still salvageable

One thing I don’t get is why the universe forgives some truly horrible people. I’m talking about abusers who get chick after chick. Fraudsters stealing money constantly yet they get further ahead.

Funny ways

 

[160cmcurry]

One thing I don’t get is why the universe forgives some truly horrible people. I’m talking about abusers who get chick after chick. Fraudsters stealing money constantly yet they get further ahead.

Funny ways

abusers getting endless validation aren’t “winning”

they’re being trained into deeper dependency

they never learn limits, never learn reciprocity, never learn how to exist without domination

every new person is just another mirror, not a bond

fraudsters moving up aren’t being rewarded

they’re narrowing their future

the higher they climb through deceit

the fewer exits they have

their life becomes maintenance

lies to keep straight, fear to manage, vigilance to sustain, no rest, no safety, no peace

they won’t get “punished later” cause that’s just fairness fantasy

a life built on harm can only produce hollow outcomes

even if it looks shiny from the outside

no depth, no continuity, no place to stand when the noise stops

and when the external validation fades, as it always does, there’s nothing internal to catch them

 

[Bryce]

I believe everyone is deserving of a second chance, no more than that though. Someone who is truly remorseful of their actions will change if given a second chance, if they piss their second chance away, they don't want to change.

 

[Saint Casanova]

abusers getting endless validation aren’t “winning”

they’re being trained into deeper dependency

they never learn limits, never learn reciprocity, never learn how to exist without domination

every new person is just another mirror, not a bond

fraudsters moving up aren’t being rewarded

they’re narrowing their future

the higher they climb through deceit

the fewer exits they have

their life becomes maintenance

lies to keep straight, fear to manage, vigilance to sustain, no rest, no safety, no peace

they won’t get “punished later” cause that’s just fairness fantasy

a life built on harm can only produce hollow outcomes

even if it looks shiny from the outside

no depth, no continuity, no place to stand when the noise stops

and when the external validation fades, as it always does, there’s nothing internal to catch them

And what about good people then ?

Honest hard working men get cheated on or divorce raped

Honest hard working men get made redundant, leaving them with no money to make ends meet.

Honest hard working men get evicted. Often with no safety nets

Honest hard working people men for hours yet never progress due to nepotism ( often being criminal bosses doing fraud).

What do honest hard working men get ?

Seems like no one is rewarded in this system

 

[Saint Casanova]

I believe everyone is deserving of a second chance, no more than that though. Someone who is truly remorseful of their actions will change if given a second chance, if they piss their second chance away, they don't want to change.

Some people can’t change. Their mind is a prison

 

[160cmcurry]

And what about good people then ?

Honest hard working men get cheated on or divorce raped

Honest hard working men get made redundant, leaving them with no money to make ends meet.

Honest hard working men get evicted. Often with no safety nets

Honest hard working people men for hours yet never progress due to nepotism ( often being criminal bosses doing fraud).

What do honest hard working men get ?

Seems like no one is rewarded in this system

honest hard working men grow up internalizing a contract that never actually existed

do the right thing, keep your head down, sacrifice now, and the system will take care of you later

the system doesn’t work that way though

culture did
parents did
teachers did
movies did

when honest men get cheated on, divorce raped, laid off, evicted, it feels like betrayal, not misfortune

because they weren’t just working for money, they were working for meaning

meaning doesn’t pay rent

work ethic doesn’t protect you from redundancy

loyalty doesn’t protect you from family courts

integrity doesn’t protect you from nepotism

those traits are internal

the system is external

it doesn’t read your intentions, it reads your leverage

the system doesn’t reward virtue, it rewards position

connections
timing
risk tolerance
visibility
aggression

sometimes outright fraud

honest men often lose because they’re predictable

they follow the rules in a game where the rule breakers set the pace

they assume fairness in an arena built on power asymmetry

honest men are rewarded in ways that don’t register as “success” anymore

self respect

coherence

the ability to sleep at night

not living in fear of exposure or collapse

the tragedy is that those rewards used to be enough

communities were smaller

safety nets were real

reputations mattered

now the world is abstract, globalized, financialized, and detached

virtue lost its exchange rate

so what do they get instead

stability until something external breaks it

moral consistency without protection

endurance without recognition

you shouldn’t be asking “why am i not rewarded?”

you should instead be asking “why kind of game am i actually in? and what am i willing to trade, or not trade, to survive it?”