Simple proof that Caucasian features are not objectively attractive and are the result of beauty standards

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Japan shows that Caucasian features aren't objectively attractive. Yes, white features are the most desired as of now so it doesn't really matter if it is objective or not but I wanted to make this thread to show that looks are heavily influenced by culture.

In Japan there is an ethnic group called the Ainu that have different ancestry (More Jomon DNA) than the typical Japanese person. These people have features found in Caucasian populations including colored eyes.
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Prior to European contact, these people were considered subhuman and ugly by the Japanese and were often discriminated against. The Japanese standard for beauty in the past was what we would consider "chinky"
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When Europeans first contacted the Japanese they were considered ugly (This changed pretty quickly though and they started throwing breeding parties JFL) and were drawn in a way that did not complement their features.
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It was only when the Japanese realized their culture/society was inferior to the West did they start desiring European/Caucasian features. Now you see Japanese people chasing after more Caucasian features through plastic surgery. Today, many Japanese idols and celebrities have features that resemble Ainu/Jomon peoples.
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If Caucasian features were objectively attractive, the Japanese would have been gunning for Ainu/Jomon genetics and features long before their contact with Europeans, but they weren't. Only after cultural exchange did they start becoming white worshipping. Now the Japanese use the Ainu/Jomon people as an example as to why they're different from other Asians.
 
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i make a thread with effort and get 0 replies brutal
back to posting tranny porn
 
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Good thread
 
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But there's no actual evidence what they thought of caucasoid features back then. You're just basing an entire countries preference off like 1 picture or 1 racist seething guy that wrote something.

Honestly ur just like 70 iq
 
But there's no actual evidence what they thought of caucasoid features back then. You're just basing an entire countries preference off like 1 picture or 1 racist seething guy that wrote something.

Honestly ur just like 70 iq
If they considered the Ainu ugly who had more Caucasian features than typical Japanese people why do you not think that would extend to Europeans?

Here is some shit from GPT because I'm lazy.
For the Ainu:

📖 How the Japanese Historically Described Ainu Appearance


From early accounts in the Nihon Shoki (720 CE) and later Edo-period travelogues and ethnographies, the Ainu were frequently described as:


  • Extremely hairy (both men and women) — a trait that Japanese society associated with animalistic or barbaric qualities.
  • Large-nosed and broad-faced, which differed from the slim, pale, delicate features valued in Japanese aesthetics.
  • Ruddy-skinned or dark-complexioned by Japanese standards.
  • Rough and rugged in appearance, often depicted in fur clothing and carrying weapons, which contrasted sharply with the refined, decorous appearance of aristocratic Japanese beauty ideals.



📚 Primary and Secondary Sources


1️⃣ The Ezo Soshi (蝦夷草子) — Edo-period illustrated manuscripts about the Ainu (called “Ezo” by the Japanese then) depict them with exaggerated facial and body hair, thick eyebrows, and pronounced noses. These were partly ethnographic but often caricatured, reinforcing a sense of physical and cultural otherness.


2️⃣ Hayashi Razan (1583–1657) — a prominent Neo-Confucian scholar who described the Ainu as physically coarse and inferior in his writings about Japan’s northern territories. He framed their appearance as a sign of both moral and civilizational inferiority.


3️⃣ Donald Keene, in Travelers of a Hundred Ages (1999) — compiles Edo-period travel accounts, including those of Japanese emissaries to Ezochi (Ainu lands), many of whom describe Ainu men and women as hairy, wild-looking, and aesthetically unpleasant by Japanese standards.


4️⃣ Richard Siddle’s Race, Resistance and the Ainu of Japan (1996) — a modern academic work analyzing how Japanese perceptions of the Ainu's physical appearance were historically weaponized to justify colonization and assimilation, noting that Ainu men’s beards and women’s tattooed mouths were key markers of perceived unattractiveness.
For Europeans:
  • Carmen Blacker’s The Japanese Enlightenment (1969) discusses early Japanese reactions to foreign physiognomy, noting how physical traits like facial hair and complexion were alien to Japanese standards of beauty, which valued smooth, pale, unblemished skin (especially among women).
  • Donald Keene, in The Japanese Discovery of Europe, 1720–1830 (1952), notes that Edo-period Japanese observers often described Europeans as "red-faced" and "prone to flushing," particularly under the sun, associating it with ill health or lack of refinement.
  • In art history analyses of Namban byōbu (南蛮屏風) — the "Southern Barbarian Screens" — Europeans are consistently depicted with reddish, often blotchy skin tones, emphasizing their foreignness.
    → See: Miyoshi, Masao. Off Center: Power and Culture Relations Between Japan and the United States. Harvard University Press, 1991.
  • Light eyes and hair color were mentioned by observers like Arai Hakuseki in Oritaku Shiba no Ki (1725), who recorded observations of foreign visitors to Edo and noted their odd eye and hair colors but did not praise them as particularly beautiful — often considering them signs of otherness or strangeness.
    → Translation and commentary: Beasley, W.G. Select Documents on Japanese Foreign Policy, 1853–1868. Oxford University Press, 1955.
 
bro only cumskins and self hating browns will disagree with this. Besides health indicators, beauty is subjective AKA influenced by social conditioning. We live in a world dominated by Europeans, so no shit we adhere to their beauty standards.
 
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They look like lightskin indians
 
Large-nosed and broad-faced, which differed from the slim, pale, delicate features valued in Japanese aesthetics.
Japs are the ones with large noses and broad faces and dark skin

Whites are thin nose, small face, pale


Ruddy-skinned or dark-complexioned by Japanese standards.
Lol come on ur just retarded. Ethnics calling WHITES dark?

Not gonna entertain this anymore
 
Chinks coping doesn't change the fact that Caucasoid skull mogs. The biggest Jap moggers are Ainu/Jomon leaning
 
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Japs are the ones with large noses and broad faces and dark skin

Whites are thin nose, small face, pale



Lol come on ur just retarded. Ethnics calling WHITES dark?

Not gonna entertain this anymore
Can you not read? That is talking about the Ainu not white people.
 
Ainu look middle eastern more then european, very pajeety
 
Japan shows that Caucasian features aren't objectively attractive. Yes, white features are the most desired as of now so it doesn't really matter if it is objective or not but I wanted to make this thread to show that looks are heavily influenced by culture.

In Japan there is an ethnic group called the Ainu that have different ancestry (More Jomon DNA) than the typical Japanese person. These people have features found in Caucasian populations including colored eyes.
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Prior to European contact, these people were considered subhuman and ugly by the Japanese and were often discriminated against. The Japanese standard for beauty in the past was what we would consider "chinky"
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When Europeans first contacted the Japanese they were considered ugly (This changed pretty quickly though and they started throwing breeding parties JFL) and were drawn in a way that did not complement their features.
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It was only when the Japanese realized their culture/society was inferior to the West did they start desiring European/Caucasian features. Now you see Japanese people chasing after more Caucasian features through plastic surgery. Today, many Japanese idols and celebrities have features that resemble Ainu/Jomon peoples.
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If Caucasian features were objectively attractive, the Japanese would have been gunning for Ainu/Jomon genetics and features long before their contact with Europeans, but they weren't. Only after cultural exchange did they start becoming white worshipping. Now the Japanese use the Ainu/Jomon people as an example as to why they're different from other Asians.
Make sense tbh. East asian looking men have the lowest smv in the west but crazy smv in SEA bcs of rich chinese people and kdramas and kpops.:lul:
 
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Japs are the ones with large noses and broad faces and dark skin

Whites are thin nose, small face, pale



Lol come on ur just retarded. Ethnics calling WHITES dark?

Not gonna entertain this anymore
I think u misunderstood, white ppl are usually tan despite being called white ppl. We all know the signature golden glowing skin with flying curly blonde hair. Meanwhile Japanese just mostly just look pale.
 
But there's no actual evidence what they thought of caucasoid features back then. You're just basing an entire countries preference off like 1 picture or 1 racist seething guy that wrote something.

Honestly ur just like 70 iq
He is still right, european colonizers have been observed as ugly by multiple populations.
 
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Ainu look middle eastern more then european, very pajeety
Ainu came from the siberian region they aren't really pajeety looking since some even had red hair and other features which aren't really found in majority of arabs and curry's.
 
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That doesn't make them look like europeans
Ya I know, the point is they look closer to caucasian than non ainu japanese. Since there's no huge population of white ppl in Japan.
 
That doesn't make them look like europeans
The same way north indians look more european like, that's why they're worshipped like Gods by southern indians
 
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The same way north indians look more european like, that's why they're worshipped like Gods by southern indians
True,@sendhilodashishya can confirm
 
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Japan shows that Caucasian features aren't objectively attractive. Yes, white features are the most desired as of now so it doesn't really matter if it is objective or not but I wanted to make this thread to show that looks are heavily influenced by culture.

In Japan there is an ethnic group called the Ainu that have different ancestry (More Jomon DNA) than the typical Japanese person. These people have features found in Caucasian populations including colored eyes.
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Prior to European contact, these people were considered subhuman and ugly by the Japanese and were often discriminated against. The Japanese standard for beauty in the past was what we would consider "chinky"
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When Europeans first contacted the Japanese they were considered ugly (This changed pretty quickly though and they started throwing breeding parties JFL) and were drawn in a way that did not complement their features.
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It was only when the Japanese realized their culture/society was inferior to the West did they start desiring European/Caucasian features. Now you see Japanese people chasing after more Caucasian features through plastic surgery. Today, many Japanese idols and celebrities have features that resemble Ainu/Jomon peoples.
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If Caucasian features were objectively attractive, the Japanese would have been gunning for Ainu/Jomon genetics and features long before their contact with Europeans, but they weren't. Only after cultural exchange did they start becoming white worshipping. Now the Japanese use the Ainu/Jomon people as an example as to why they're different from other Asians.
mean this was obvious because a black chad mogs a whyte one
 
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