Since in gonna roid

[Lev Peshkov]

Should I make an incel zyzz style channel?

 

[lifestyle21873]

arent u like 15 jfl

 

[BigBiceps]

Don't tbh, unless you're comfortable with serious health effects, possible stunt of puberty and height and hairloss.

 

[Deleted member 2661]

testicular dysfunction announced soon I'm hearing?

 

[Deleted member 6538]

Make a vlog like this with your Russian jailbait girlfriend Sasha

 

[MentalistKebab]

Should I make an incel zyzz style channel?

Yeah, story of a 16 yo russian roiding and becoming an acne ridden, bald subhuman and infertile at 18.

 

[lifestyle21873]

Yeah, story of a 16 yo russian roiding and becoming an acne ridden, bald subhuman and infertile at 18.

he wont do it, its all talk. everyone on here talking how theyre gonna get bimax and shit while no one does it

 

[Lev Peshkov]

he wont do it, its all talk. everyone on here talking how theyre gonna get bimax and shit while no one does it

Giga. Cope

 

[Lev Peshkov]

arent u like 15 jfl

Cope. Why does that affect anything

B-b-but the Jews told m-me steroids bad

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Yeah, story of a 16 yo russian roiding and becoming an acne ridden, bald subhuman and infertile at 18.

Low iq cope

Acne is a possibility

However not while running retin a so that = cope

Bald. Another cope. I'm not prone to balding


Infertile Jfl. This is the most fucking stupid thing I've ever heard in my life

Go on Mr science. Tell me the emchansim behind going infertile or stop with your copes

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Make a vlog like this with your Russian jailbait girlfriend Sasha

I will unironically, caging at all the reddit cuck low iq retards crying for me

 

[Eccedentesiast]

You don't need roids unless you have a super small frame or going pro in bodybuilding. I don't think girls want a swole, tryhard jumbo

 

[HowAmIAlive123]

Low iq cope

Acne is a possibility

However not while running retin a so that = cope

Bald. Another cope. I'm not prone to balding


Infertile Jfl. This is the most fucking stupid thing I've ever heard in my life

Go on Mr science. Tell me the emchansim behind going infertile or stop with your copes

Everyone is prone to balding.
Literally, the only one in my family that had no hair was likey grandpa in my dad's side, yet I still lost some hair and am now nw 1.5-2
Pay attention to hairline, crown, density

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Your cycle makes no sense tbh
aren’t you running it for 8-12 weeks?
that length is designed to build muscle not for pubertal development, you’re genuinely much better off cruising on like dsip and proviron, maybe a mild ai if needed, boosting your dna methylation rate for 1year plus, will give you so much more dimorphism, a tren cycle is likely to just push you through puberty faster with no extra development.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Your cycle makes no sense tbh
aren’t you running it for 8-12 weeks?
that length is designed to build muscle not for pubertal development, you’re genuinely much better off cruising on like dsip and proviron, maybe a mild ai if needed, boosting your dna methylation rate for 1year plus, will give you so much more dimorphism, a tren cycle is likely to just push you through puberty faster with no extra development.

i just wanna roid to become manlet mamoa

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Your cycle makes no sense tbh
aren’t you running it for 8-12 weeks?
that length is designed to build muscle not for pubertal development, you’re genuinely much better off cruising on like dsip and proviron, maybe a mild ai if needed, boosting your dna methylation rate for 1year plus, will give you so much more dimorphism, a tren cycle is likely to just push you through puberty faster with no extra development.

No Jfl, it's just a generic teen cycle

I will gain Dimorphism from it and gain a good body

I'm not coping with these weak peptides that ditb do anything Jfl

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Everyone is prone to balding.
Literally, the only one in my family that had no hair was likey grandpa in my dad's side, yet I still lost some hair and am now nw 1.5-2
Pay attention to hairline, crown, density

Nah baldi g happens from roids if your prime to MPB otherwise hairless is reverseable it says

 

[HowAmIAlive123]

Nah baldi g happens from roids if your prime to MPB otherwise hairless is reverseable it says

Yea and who isn't prone to MPB? Literly everyone has it, but not the same extent
Like someone will be nw2 at age 40,the other at 18, but steroids WILL fasten the process up

Yea shedding is the other thing

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Yea and who isn't prone to MPB? Literly everyone has it, but not the same extent
Like someone will be nw2 at age 40,the other at 18, but steroids WILL fasten the process up

Yea shedding is the other thing

Nah my grandads both have full heads of thick hair u ironically

Nw1 on my dad's grandad

And my mom's dad literally has o ly lost temple hair

 

[HowAmIAlive123]

Nah my grandads both have full heads of thick hair u ironically

Nw1 on my dad's grandad

And my mom's dad literally has o ly lost temple hair

You do you man
But pay close attention to hair. Honestly, it's so important

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

just a generic teen cycle

Jfl theres no such thing

you cant gain that much dimorphism in such a short amount of time

dsip has plenty of clinical studies behind it just like proviron, mean while where are the studies about getting a better face through an 8-12 week tren cycle?

they used to give high dose testosterone shots to boys in the netherlands to stunt their growth by pushing them through puberty faster, it fucked up their testosterone for life too, you’re pretty much doing the same thing.

you might get a good body but that’s pretty much it.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Roid at 20yo after few years of workoing out natty

 

[MentalistKebab]

Infertile Jfl. This is the most fucking stupid thing I've ever heard in my life

Go on Mr science. Tell me the emchansim behind going infertile or stop with your copes

Bro are u srsly asking how an exogenust test that is gonna stop your natural activity of balls is gonna make you infertile ?

But I guess that makes sense considering you think roiding at 16 is a good idea because test levels and masculine features correlate a little.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Bro are u srsly asking how an exogenust test that is gonna stop your natural activity of balls is gonna make you infertile ?

But I guess that makes sense considering you think roiding at 16 is a good idea because test levels and masculine features correlate a little.

Jfl keep coping

I know exactly how it could cause u fertility and it won't happen unless ur a retard and blast giga high levels with no pct

Also masculine features 100% correlate with testosterone bro not a little

Just look at adult tren users

B-but cope
It's all genetics

Yes the genetics for natural T make it happen naturally but roiding will have the same effect

 

[GigaMogger]

Rodeblurmaxx, body is cope

 

[Deleted member 8699]

Make a vlog like this with your Russian jailbait girlfriend Sasha

jfl in russia sasha is a male name

 

[Lev Peshkov]

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Rodeblurmaxx, body is cope

Oh ye my bad. All about being 40kg

 

[Lev Peshkov]

jfl in russia sasha is a male name

I know a girl called Sasha unironically

We bullied her to slef harm

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

masculine features 100% correlate with testosterone bro not a little

not true bro, first you can’t correlate features and numbers like that

second its not true even if you could, androgen levels account for some of the variance in dimorphism between males but not the entirety.

third, prenatal testosterone is the most important type of testosterone when talking of dimorphism of a person. Pubertal testosterone has an effect too but it’s not as pronounced. It can only take you so far.

 

[Deleted member 8699]

Should I make an incel zyzz style channel?

dont listen to these pussies, roid all you want. you'll have gains they can't even dream of

 

[Lev Peshkov]

dont listen to these pussies, roid all you want. you'll have gains they can't even dream of

This unironically.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

not true bro, first you can’t correlate features and numbers like that

second its not true even if you could, androgen levels account for some of the variance in dimorphism between males but not the entirety.

third, prenatal testosterone is the most important type of testosterone when talking of dimorphism of a person. Pubertal testosterone has an effect too but it’s not as pronounced. It can only take you so far.

Jfl

So babies who all come out looking the same have already got their determined prental features? Cope.

There was even a study that said their is a correlation between the 2 however prenatal t is also ascoiated with how much t you have as a teen

So it is most likely pubertal t that causes Dimorphism they said in the fucking conclusion of a study titled "prental t correlates with secual dimorphism"

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

So babies who all come out looking the same have already got their determined prental features? Cope.

Bro this is low iq cope

obviously facial structure changes in puberty, that doesn’t mean prenatal t isnt affecting those changes. Prenatal t is vital for the formation of androgen receptors which are then agonised by pubertal t which changes the facial features.

There was even a study that said their is a correlation between the 2 however prenatal t is also ascoiated with how much t you have as a teen

So it is most likely pubertal t that causes Dimorphism they said in the fucking conclusion of a study titled "prental t correlates with secual dimorphism"

Source on this?
the association is stronger with prenatal tesstostetone and facial dimorphism, when you control for pubertal t levels, so the correlation between prental t and pubertal t doesnt matter

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Bro this is low iq cope

obviously facial structure changes in puberty, that doesn’t mean prenatal t isnt affecting those changes. Prenatal t is vital for the formation of androgen receptors which are then agonised by pubertal t which changes the facial features.


Source on this?
the association is stronger with prenatal tesstostetone and facial dimorphism, when you control for pubertal t levels, so the correlation between prental t and pubertal t doesnt matter

Its not a cope Jfl

Also explain this then

In teen studies where they have to inject t for them their faces all gain changes in the mandibular, cheek, brow ridge and xygomatic regions

All strongly associated with secual dimorphism in males

SNPs Associated With Testosterone Levels Influence Human Facial Morphology

Many factors influence human facial morphology, including genetics, age, nutrition, biomechanical forces, and endocrine factors. Moreover, facial features clearly differ between males and females, and these differences are driven primarily by the influence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.google.com/url?q=[URL]h...FjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0alpnUDKrCiZ6lfsLrd3tI

[/URL]

Finally its Anecdotal but every teen roider gets a face change like this

Finally

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351

Conclusion

"in puberty t levels surge 20-30x that of their female counterparts. So ou ertal testierone cannot be ruled out"

Also it's very common to see face changes from androgens in adults also

Furthermore I emailed my doctor about this who pretty much Confirmed I'd gain dimorphic features as teen testosterone levels are strongly associated with secually dimorohic features which indicate high t and breeding ability

I see where you're coming from but I literally have all the evidence to support it will work

Trust me I wouldn't do this if I didn't think it would work I'm not giga low iq lol

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Its not a cope Jfl

Also explain this then

In teen studies where they have to inject t for them their faces all gain changes in the mandibular, cheek, brow ridge and xygomatic regions

All strongly associated with secual dimorphism in males

SNPs Associated With Testosterone Levels Influence Human Facial Morphology

Many factors influence human facial morphology, including genetics, age, nutrition, biomechanical forces, and endocrine factors. Moreover, facial features clearly differ between males and females, and these differences are driven primarily by the influence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.google.com/url?q=[URL]h...FjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0alpnUDKrCiZ6lfsLrd3tI

[/URL]

Finally its Anecdotal but every teen roider gets a face change like this

View attachment 589759

Finally

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351

Conclusion

"in puberty t levels surge 20-30x that of their female counterparts. So ou ertal testierone cannot be ruled out"

Also it's very common to see face changes from androgens in adults also

View attachment 589766
View attachment 589771

Furthermore I emailed my doctor about this who pretty much Confirmed I'd gain dimorphic features as teen testosterone levels are strongly associated with secually dimorohic features which indicate high t and breeding ability

I see where you're coming from but I literally have all the evidence to support it will work

Trust me I wouldn't do this if I didn't think it would work I'm not giga low iq lol

Yes I literally never said otherwise
if you significantly increase your testosterone in puberty you will get more dimorphic features

1st study is an association, doesn't talk about the mechanisms between pubertal t levels and facial morphology, so it doesn't help your case
and most of the SNPs showed no association with any facial morphology
and if the SNPs are associated with testosterone, then they're also associated with the facial morphology, and you can't inject the SNPs

"The mechanism of effect of the implicated variants on facial morphology is still unclear. Testosterone affects a wide array of tissues and organs during development. Through altering testosterone levels, our implicated SNPs may impact the cell populations involved in facial growth and development. In this indirect model, testosterone acts as a mediator. "

this says jack shit about you changing your face with tren

2nd study it won't let me see, post the name of it

3rd study, you're leaving out half the quote jfl

"Testosterone levels surge during puberty, and concentrations are 20–30-fold higher in males than females [4], which has been postulated to explain the contemporaneous increased sexual dimorphism in facial appearance. For example, among 12–18-year-olds, a positive correlation is present between the concentration of testosterone in saliva and the dimensions of several male-typical facial characteristics, such as a broader forehead, chin, jaw and nose [5]. "

"postulated to explain the contemporaneous increased sexual dimorphism in facial appearance"
Implying it's not set in stone, I wonder why you left this out

and look at the time frame of puberty they're talking about, 12-18 years, fucking 312 weeks as opposed to your 8-12 week tren cycle
that's why I'm not sure it will give the results you want, the timeframe is so small, human development is very slow, they don't draw the conclusion that briefly increasing your testosterone to supraphysiological levels will have a significant effect on your face.

 

[Mouthbreath]

Its not a cope Jfl

Also explain this then

In teen studies where they have to inject t for them their faces all gain changes in the mandibular, cheek, brow ridge and xygomatic regions

All strongly associated with secual dimorphism in males

SNPs Associated With Testosterone Levels Influence Human Facial Morphology

Many factors influence human facial morphology, including genetics, age, nutrition, biomechanical forces, and endocrine factors. Moreover, facial features clearly differ between males and females, and these differences are driven primarily by the influence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.google.com/url?q=[URL]h...FjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0alpnUDKrCiZ6lfsLrd3tI

[/URL]

Finally its Anecdotal but every teen roider gets a face change like this

View attachment 589759

Finally

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351

Conclusion

"in puberty t levels surge 20-30x that of their female counterparts. So ou ertal testierone cannot be ruled out"

Also it's very common to see face changes from androgens in adults also

View attachment 589766
View attachment 589771

Furthermore I emailed my doctor about this who pretty much Confirmed I'd gain dimorphic features as teen testosterone levels are strongly associated with secually dimorohic features which indicate high t and breeding ability

I see where you're coming from but I literally have all the evidence to support it will work

Trust me I wouldn't do this if I didn't think it would work I'm not giga low iq lol

my face also changed drastically through puberty (without roiding), it's normal.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Yes I literally never said otherwise
if you significantly increase your testosterone in puberty you will get more dimorphic features

1st study is an association, doesn't talk about the mechanisms between pubertal t levels and facial morphology, so it doesn't help your case
and most of the SNPs showed no association with any facial morphology
and if the SNPs are associated with testosterone, then they're also associated with the facial morphology, and you can't inject the SNPs

"The mechanism of effect of the implicated variants on facial morphology is still unclear. Testosterone affects a wide array of tissues and organs during development. Through altering testosterone levels, our implicated SNPs may impact the cell populations involved in facial growth and development. In this indirect model, testosterone acts as a mediator. "

this says jack shit about you changing your face with tren

2nd study it won't let me see, post the name of it

3rd study, you're leaving out half the quote jfl

"Testosterone levels surge during puberty, and concentrations are 20–30-fold higher in males than females [4], which has been postulated to explain the contemporaneous increased sexual dimorphism in facial appearance. For example, among 12–18-year-olds, a positive correlation is present between the concentration of testosterone in saliva and the dimensions of several male-typical facial characteristics, such as a broader forehead, chin, jaw and nose [5]. "

"postulated to explain the contemporaneous increased sexual dimorphism in facial appearance"
Implying it's not set in stone, I wonder why you left this out

and look at the time frame of puberty they're talking about, 12-18 years, fucking 312 weeks as opposed to your 8-12 week tren cycle
that's why I'm not sure it will give the results you want, the timeframe is so small, human development is very slow, they don't draw the conclusion that briefly increasing your testosterone to supraphysiological levels will have a significant effect on your face.

That's t tho

It's not very androgenic and also its association but the point made by it shows clearly that testistwry influences these features

These features are good looking this androgens cause these features

This injecting tren which we know changes face sin adults will change face

The second study basically says the same thing as SNPs study but it's actually don't by giving teens and children t Injectiobs

And the conclusion of the third one says it could be prental but you can't lie that in teens it seems more likely

That's the basics of it

I kbwo for a fact that rodiug as a teen will give me a good face especially from where I currently am

It's been oruven time and time again

But you're literally saying trivak things like

"muh can't inject SNPs"

"it's associated doesn't mean it actually will"

"it says correlated doesn't mean cause"

If you look at it that way then no it won't work

But the anecdotes I have seen and the studies that literally give you in plain text that testosterone affects dimorohic features

It doesn't matter on the root of the androgens, it doesn't matter how long

I know for a fact it will have a massive change

 

[Lev Peshkov]

my face also changed drastically through puberty, it's normal.

Exactly, it's a common known fact that most of adult facial changes (Dimorphism) happens in puberty

 

[Mouthbreath]

Exactly, it's a common known fact that most of adult facial changes (Dimorphism) happens in puberty

and you want to enhance the effect by raising testosterone levels, getting good food, exercise and sleep? Honestly just do it, I hope you already found good sources.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

and you want to enhance the effect by raising testosterone levels, getting good food, exercise and sleep? Honestly just do it, I hope you already found good sources.

Literally what I'm doing is getting myself zygos, a jaw, hollow cheeks, brow ridge and more robust midface by injecting andrigens

 

[Deleted member 6873]

they used to give high dose testosterone shots to boys in the netherlands to stunt their growth by pushing them through puberty faster, it fucked up their testosterone for life too, you’re pretty much doing the same thing.

excuseert u mij?

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

t the anecdotes I have seen and the studies that literally give you in plain text that testosterone affects dimorohic features

yes but I think you're overrating the effects & the studies don't apply to your tren cycles

anecdotes go either way, you're using famous example but for every david laid there are hundreds of guys like this

multiple steroid cycles at 15 and still ugly as sin

muh can't inject SNPs"

"it's associated doesn't mean it actually will"

"it says correlated doesn't mean cause"

Bro this is basic shit and not trivial

you yourself were saying that the association between prenatal t and pubertal t can explain the association with prenatal t and dimorphism
but now me saying the association between these SNPs and facial morphology could do the same is trivial?

2nd study I assume you mean where the kids were in delayed puberty?
again doesn't apply because the kids were deficient in testosterone, so they increased their testosterone to normal levels
they didn't give kids with normal levels of testosterone supraphysiological levels of testosterone, so you can't apply it directly to your tren cycle like that.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

excuseert u mij?

yes lol read this shit

Stunting tall men tied to lower testosterone

Being tall may not seem like a big problem to most teen boys, but in Europe a few still choose to have their growth stunted by hormone injections.

www.reuters.com

he's doing this and more, bar maybe the growth stunting as tren doesn't aromatize

 

[Lev Peshkov]

yes but I think you're overrating the effects & the studies don't apply to your tren cycles

anecdotes go either way, you're using famous example but for every david laid there are hundreds of guys like this

multiple steroid cycles at 15 and still ugly as sin


View attachment 589878


Bro this is basic shit and not trivial

you yourself were saying that the association between prenatal t and pubertal t can explain the association with prenatal t and dimorphism
but now me saying the association between these SNPs and facial morphology could do the same is trivial?

2nd study I assume you mean where the kids were in delayed puberty?
again doesn't apply because the kids were deficient in testosterone, so they increased their testosterone to normal levels
they didn't give kids with normal levels of testosterone supraphysiological levels of testosterone, so you can't apply it directly to your tren cycle like that.

Its trivial stuff man JFL

Also that teen has been proven he didn't ever touch roids in his life

It makes sense look at his body

And even if he did roids must've been some shit like winstorl or low androgen as he'd have a better body than that

 

[Deleted member 6873]

yes lol read this shit

Stunting tall men tied to lower testosterone

Being tall may not seem like a big problem to most teen boys, but in Europe a few still choose to have their growth stunted by hormone injections.

www.reuters.com

he's doing this and more, bar maybe the growth stunting as tren doesn't aromatize

BTW by pushing you through puberty faster.


Wouldn't it mean injecting T during puberty will just make you reach the "dimorphism etc" you were meant to get faster?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

BTW by pushing you through puberty faster.


Wouldn't it mean injecting T during puberty will just make you reach the "dimorphism etc" you were meant to get faster?

Look basically injecting any androgen in puberty wheil your face is developing will give u dimorohic features its seen in many teen roider of heavy androgen use and its seen in studies I've sent you can cope with it being only associated and how they didn't inject but these are tiny factors

If you can't see that there is a direct cause of t and facial features you're probably cherry picking or coping.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Also that teen has been proven he didn't ever touch roids in his life

It makes sense look at his body

lol source?
I've seen him inject jfl

I'm not sure what he ran tbh I think teste

but the point still stands it's not guaranteed to make you gl

Its trivial stuff man JFL

it's not bro, the only studies that apply to you are the ones showing a causal link between pubertal t and facial masculinity
but even then the testosterone levels are within the normal range, so we don't have a comparison of development with high t levels within the normal range and t levels within the supraphysiological range. There might be no benefit to it whatsoever, that's why your cycles son't make sense

 

[Lev Peshkov]

lol source?
I've seen him inject jfl

I'm not sure what he ran tbh I think teste

but the point still stands it's not guaranteed to make you gl


it's not bro, the only studies that apply to you are the ones showing a causal link between pubertal t and facial masculinity
but even then the testosterone levels are within the normal range, so we don't have a comparison of development with high t levels within the normal range and t levels within the supraphysiological range. There might be no benefit to it whatsoever, that's why your cycles son't make sense

He deleted his social media's because he got caught larping

I think he was only injecting gh or something

It was a big thing it says in the comment section

Nextly we clearly know that they have an effect on each otherb

I agree there hasn't been a case study in my exact circumstances however if you use the data we have got

Androgens affect the face (check)

High androgenic steroid (check)

Developing face (check)

Androgens cause Dimorphism (check)

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

BTW by pushing you through puberty faster.


Wouldn't it mean injecting T during puberty will just make you reach the "dimorphism etc" you were meant to get faster?

for the most part yes, depending what their testosterone levels would have been otherwise, they could get more dimorphism
but depending on how they handled the injections, they could have gotten less jfl

I don't disagree with him that increasing your test significantly in puberty will increase dimorphism, and that he should tmaxx

but his tren cycles don't make sense in this context, he's better of maintaining these high testosterone levels 24/7

 

[Deleted member 6873]

for the most part yes, depending what their testosterone levels would have been otherwise, they could get more dimorphism
but depending on how they handled the injections, they could have gotten less jfl

I don't disagree with him that increasing your test significantly in puberty will increase dimorphism, and that he should tmaxx

but his tren cycles don't make sense in this context, he's better of maintaining these high testosterone levels 24/7

Ah thanks man i see.

But why the fuck tren? Wouldn't he be better of just using Test?

Also would SARMs contribute to a similar effect like this or?