Since in gonna roid

[Good_Little_Goy]

I agree there hasn't been a case study in my exact circumstances however if you use the data we have got

Androgens affect the face (check)

High androgenic steroid (check)

Developing face (check)

Androgens cause Dimorphism (check)

yes, but I think you're misunderstanding me here

I'm just saying your cycles are poorly designed for the objective, it will probably work, but not as well as it could
you're better off maintaining these high testosterone levels and minimising suppression

 

[Lev Peshkov]

yes, but I think you're misunderstanding me here

I'm just saying your cycles are poorly designed for the objective, it will probably work, but not as well as it could
you're better off maintaining these high testosterone levels and minimising suppression

Oh I see your point

So you were never disagreeing that higja ndrigen levels cause Dimorphism?

Ur jousting thinking its better over long term?

Well I can explain then Jfl

Tren has 5x the amount of androgen

So it will take a fith of the time test would take

For example a 12 week tren cycle = having 1 year of high t for Dimorphism

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Ah thanks man i see.

But why the fuck tren? Wouldn't he be better of just using Test?

Also would SARMs contribute to a similar effect like this or?

idk why tren tbh, I think he wants to follow laid and he did tren maybe?
might be cos tren doesn't aromatize, test alone would just do what it did to those dutch kids
sarms SHOULD have the same effect on bones, but I wouldn't risk it tbh, in pubertymaxxing I think you shouldn't choose anything selective
I can think of reasons why sarms could affect your brain development if not managed properly.
better to stick to tested substances for this

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Oh I see your point

So you were never disagreeing that higja ndrigen levels cause Dimorphism?

Ur jousting thinking its better over long term?

jfl read my original posts I've been saying that all along
I fully endorse puberty tmaxxing but you need to do it correctly
I think we mostly agree

Ur jousting thinking its better over long term?

Well I can explain then Jfl

Tren has 5x the amount of androgen

So it will take a fith of the time test would take

For example a 12 week tren cycle = having 1 year of high t for Dimorphism

That's not how it works though, tren has 5 times the androgenic capabilities of testosterone yeah
but that doesn't mean 5x as much development
or taking 5 times as little time for the same dimorphism
Puberty rate is limited in this sense, if you're gonna go ahead with it, make sure to take L-arginine and boost your dna methylation rate
this should help maximise development for the timeframe

 

[Lev Peshkov]

jfl read my original posts I've been saying that all along
I fully endorse puberty tmaxxing but you need to do it correctly
I think we mostly agree


That's not how it works though, tren has 5 times the androgenic capabilities of testosterone yeah
but that doesn't mean 5x as much development
or taking 5 times as little time for the same dimorphism
Puberty rate is limited in this sense, if you're gonna go ahead with it, make sure to take L-arginine and boost your dna methylation rate
this should help maximise development for the timeframe

Thanks man

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Thanks man

Just look into what I'm saying
If you can provide sources that suggest tren can develop you body in puberty 5 times as fast as testosterone then I'll take a look and possibly offer some advice

but based on the studies talking about an association between pubertal test levels and facial dimorphism
It makes 1000 times more sense to do what I'm saying, I can explain more clearly in pms if u want

 

[shiray]

Its not a cope Jfl

Also explain this then

In teen studies where they have to inject t for them their faces all gain changes in the mandibular, cheek, brow ridge and xygomatic regions

All strongly associated with secual dimorphism in males

SNPs Associated With Testosterone Levels Influence Human Facial Morphology

Many factors influence human facial morphology, including genetics, age, nutrition, biomechanical forces, and endocrine factors. Moreover, facial features clearly differ between males and females, and these differences are driven primarily by the influence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.google.com/url?q=[URL]h...FjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0alpnUDKrCiZ6lfsLrd3tI

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Finally its Anecdotal but every teen roider gets a face change like this

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Finally

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351

Conclusion

"in puberty t levels surge 20-30x that of their female counterparts. So ou ertal testierone cannot be ruled out"

Also it's very common to see face changes from androgens in adults also

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Furthermore I emailed my doctor about this who pretty much Confirmed I'd gain dimorphic features as teen testosterone levels are strongly associated with secually dimorohic features which indicate high t and breeding ability

I see where you're coming from but I literally have all the evidence to support it will work

Trust me I wouldn't do this if I didn't think it would work I'm not giga low iq lol

So what‘s your stack?