since incels can solve their lack of a sex life by paying for it, is their a way they can they "pay" for a social circle as well?

[banjojones]

The main problem plaguing incels is lack of a sex and a social life. We can easily pay for sex that is no problem. It is actually more economical. Instead of spending hours/emotional energy gymaxxing/dressing nice in order to chase women who want nothing to do with you; you just pay a chick for her time in the Netherlands, nut inside of her and then go on with your day. This frees up a LOT of time/emotional energy to pursue hobbies/business/or simply just relax and watch TV. (plus the escorts you get in the Netherlands are far more attractive than any low-tier becky you can attract naturally). However even if we pay for sex we YEARN to be part of a tribe/clique/social circle. Since we can't realistically get that post-college (or simply because we are too ugly/autistic) Is their a way you can "pay" for a social circle in a sense? Like IDK join a masonic lodge or what?

-I need some ideas.
-I want to look at this through a raw economic lens

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Are you sure you can't get friends? Making friends has nothing to do with looks, absolutely NOTHING. Even being a dweeb doesn't matter, you could just hang out with other similar people. I suppose you're referring to the fact that you are barred from being part of the social groups in the upper echelons of the school environment and world in general.

 

[banjojones]

Are you sure you can't get friends? Making friends has nothing to do with looks, absolutely NOTHING. Even being a dweeb doesn't matter, you could just hang out with other similar people.

tried that but dweebs will have "selective mutism" or even delude themselves and say: "i don't need friends" (when in reality they complain about being lonely all the time)

I suppose you're referring to the fact that you are barred from being part of the social groups in the upper echelons of the school environment and world in general.

yes that is what I am saying. We incels are barred from being part of "sexual groups" in the upper echelons (ie Staceys) but we found a way around that by paying Stacey-lite sex workers for sex/their time.

-is it possible to do that with a social circle?

 

[OldRooster]

The main problem plaguing incels is lack of a sex and a social life. We can easily pay for sex that is no problem.

Paying for sex might be satisfying to a small subset of mentally unbalanced incels, but most men need the validation that can only come from sex with a women that is actually attracted to the man.

 

[JBcollector]

We can't pay out way out of inceldom prostitution is illegal and incels duped

 

[Deleted member 15004]

tried that but dweebs will have "selective mutism" or even delude themselves and say: "i don't need friends" (when in reality they complain about being lonely all the time)

You're not trying hard enough because no matter how socially inept you may be there are people out there just like you in the same boat willing to befriend you and that's life, it's common out there, the nerds hang out with each other. I suppose you need to branch out more I guess if the people you've tried haven't given you that opportunity

yes that is what I am saying. We incels are barred from being part of "sexual groups" in the upper echelons (ie Staceys) but we found a way around that by paying Stacey-lite sex workers for sex/their time.

-is it possible to do that with a social circle?

Yeah that's a bit more complicated, and extremely difficult for you because in order to be a part of these highly coveted social groups(in your opinion), you need to be someone who fits in i.e you are good looking, you are NT, you are tall, you play sports, you are athletic, etc you get the gist. Many people even outside of these forums are NT which is why they can't capitalize on a lot of things however a solution to your question could be moneymaxxing however that would be artificial, in your viewpoint. If you have the resources and connections, people will naturally gravitate towards you, men and women alike. Status and money matters a lot so doing things to raise your status and wealth would naturally help you in your endeavours.

 

[banjojones]

Paying for sex might be satisfying to a small subset of mentally unbalanced incels, but most men need the validation that can only come from sex with a women that is actually attracted to the man.

sure you will have to pay for it but make up your mind! either you want something or not! do you want sex or not? If you were starving you would not refuse to pay for food just because someone else gets it for free. Man this forum is peak retardation at times. People cry about not being able to have sex yet refuse to pay for it (make up your mind do you want sex or not?) but spend all day watching anime/bitching about society

 

[fauxfox]

If you're paying someone to be your friend they're not your friend

 

[banjojones]

You're not trying hard enough because no matter how socially inept you may be there are people out there just like you in the same boat willing to befriend you and that's life, it's common out there, the nerds hang out with each other. I suppose you need to branch out more I guess if the people you've tried haven't given you that opportunity

well you can argue that an incel is not "trying enough" who wants to skip the bullshit games and just pay for sex with a stacey instead of spending time chasing women out of his league that would be better spent elsewhere

Yeah that's a bit more complicated, and extremely difficult for you because in order to be a part of these highly coveted social groups(in your opinion), you need to be someone who fits in i.e you are good looking, you are NT, you are tall, you play sports, you are athletic, etc you get the gist. Many people even outside of these forums are NT which is why they can't capitalize on a lot of things however a solution to your question could be moneymaxxing however that would be artificial, in your viewpoint. If you have the resources and connections, people will naturally gravitate towards you, men and women alike. Status and money matters a lot so doing things to raise your status and wealth would naturally help you in your endeavours.

i don't think moneymaxxing is no more artificial than an incel paying a stacey for sex. However I'm trying to brainstorm ideas. In college if you are a rich incel you can just join a fraternity (essentially paying for friends/social circles) but once you leave college what are your options then? IDK join a masonic lodge? or convert to a new religion maybe? (IDK Islam)?

-just trying to brainstorm guys

 

[banjojones]

If you're paying someone to be your friend they're not your friend

same can be said if you are paying a woman for sex she is not really attracted to you. but a logical incel wants sex and will do what it takes to get it. sure i will never get friends who like me for me like chad in college can. but what I want to do is pay people to tolerate me. kinda like in college rich incels can pay to be in a fraternity where people merely tolerate him. problem is after college I can't quite find something like that that exists

 

[Deleted member 15004]

well you can argue that an incel is not "trying enough" who wants to skip the bullshit games and just pay for sex with a stacey instead of spending time chasing women out of his league that would be better spent elsewhere

No, escortcelling is fine and those situations are not analagous, making friends is not the same as sexual intercourse, false equivalance.
You have sex with money if that's your goal but if you want friends, you can't have them with money cuz they're not your friend lol they're your henchmen. The definitions are different, and you're misconstruing things.

i don't think moneymaxxing is no more artificial than an incel paying a stacey for sex. However I'm trying to brainstorm ideas. In college if you are a rich incel you can just join a fraternity (essentially paying for friends/social circles) but once you leave college what are your options then? IDK join a masonic lodge? or convert to a new religion maybe? (IDK Islam)?

See above. Prostitution is something you pay for for sex but you can't really pay people to be your friends, you're not on equal terms. If you just want sex, prostitutes are fine but deeper connections cannot be achieved through this route, if you believe in that stuff which is the point. You can pay people to be your "friend" but there is no connection but since sex is all you want, prostitution is acceptable and fine which is also my view.

Yes, you have the right idea. You must join clubs in university and make connections through that. Outside of university, you'd have to go to your community centre, participate in community events, join a religious thing like a mosque church temple whatever, something that has PEOPLE>

 

[banjojones]

No, escortcelling is fine and those situations are not analagous, making friends is not the same as sexual intercourse, false equivalance.

i will disagree both sexual intercourse and making friends are manipulating people to do what is desirable or in your best self interest. we manipulate people all the time. in a job interview you manipulate the boss into hiring you. manipulation does not have to have a negative connotation

You have sex with money if that's your goal but if you want friends, you can't have them with money cuz they're not your friend lol they're your henchmen. The definitions are different, and you're misconstruing things.

sure it may be henchman or just bros to socialize with not bffs

See above. Prostitution is something you pay for for sex but you can't really pay people to be your friends, you're not on equal terms.

I disagree people pay for friends all the time. richcels in college pay for friends by joining a frat (the joke with frat bros that even normies admit to is that they are merely paying for friends). Guys like Donald Trump pays for his "friends". Just being realistic here

Yes, you have the right idea. You must join clubs in university and make connections through that. Outside of university, you'd have to go to your community centre, participate in community events, join a religious thing like a mosque church temple whatever, something that has PEOPLE>

But we want "friends" or bros to talk with who are around our age. Most churches/community centers are filled with old people. IDK could you pay for friends by going to college towns and buy beer for parties or being the weedman? (in GTA5 not IRL) Sure you are a cuck but you can argue that is the same thing for paying for escorts.

 

[banjojones]

We can't pay out way out of inceldom prostitution is illegal and incels duped

in parts of europe it is legal/tolerated. outside of the united states sex is considered not a big deal. go to europe you can watch porn on tv, have nude beaches etc. americans have an unhealthy view of sex from the fundamental protestants

 

[JBcollector]

in parts of europe it is legal/tolerated. outside of the united states sex is considered not a big deal. go to europe you can watch porn on tv, have nude beaches etc. americans have an unhealthy view of sex from the fundamental protestants

Not a big deal?
Nigga good prostitution arrests

Americans had the right view of sexuality based on Christian moral foundations but now it's anti hetro and pro everything else

 

[Deleted member 20131]

Yes

Brute force it

Become the party man

Go out clubbing alone and drink multiple times a week. Smoke. Smoke weed. Talk to random guys in the smokers area. Develop interests that make you an interesting conversation. Boom suddenly guy friends. Boom go to house parties, afters, host pre's. Learn to dance. Maybe even be the Jester - this can be for your own amusement too.

You can always reverse age the damage induced by this

Or you could do for a more relaxed approach of hobbies that involve meeting other people. Hiking, rock climbing, surfing, fishing, hunting, MMA, gym. Small doses of kratom could be beneficial


(not medical advice)

 

[GetShrekt]

Paying for sex might be satisfying to a small subset of mentally unbalanced incels, but most men need the validation that can only come from sex with a women that is actually attracted to the man.

It's not about validation, it's just cucked to pay for it.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Are you sure you can't get friends? Making friends has nothing to do with looks, absolutely NOTHING. Even being a dweeb doesn't matter, you could just hang out with other similar people. I suppose you're referring to the fact that you are barred from being part of the social groups in the upper echelons of the school environment and world in general.

OP is autistic af lol, I spoke to him on discord before and can understand why he doesn’t have many friends. Many normies can sense his lack of status

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Are you sure you can't get friends? Making friends has nothing to do with looks, absolutely NOTHING. Even being a dweeb doesn't matter, you could just hang out with other similar people. I suppose you're referring to the fact that you are barred from being part of the social groups in the upper echelons of the school environment and world in general.

Explain yourself, Tyrone @Armadillo

 

[Gaia262]

The main problem plaguing incels is lack of a sex and a social life. We can easily pay for sex that is no problem. It is actually more economical. Instead of spending hours/emotional energy gymaxxing/dressing nice in order to chase women who want nothing to do with you; you just pay a chick for her time in the Netherlands, nut inside of her and then go on with your day. This frees up a LOT of time/emotional energy to pursue hobbies/business/or simply just relax and watch TV. (plus the escorts you get in the Netherlands are far more attractive than any low-tier becky you can attract naturally). However even if we pay for sex we YEARN to be part of a tribe/clique/social circle. Since we can't realistically get that post-college (or simply because we are too ugly/autistic) Is their a way you can "pay" for a social circle in a sense? Like IDK join a masonic lodge or what?

-I need some ideas.
-I want to look at this through a raw economic lens

Yes, people often "pay for friends" this is done through work or business social circles.

The transaction is monetary

If you own a company your employees will be your "friends" and will want to spend as much time as possible with you. It won't be real or genuine

A more softer approach is being a tourist, you can see people's social experiences on vlogs on YouTube. It's a costly lifestyle

 

[GetShrekt]

Explain yourself, Tyrone @Armadillo

Looks are everything in life, no one wants to associate with ugly men that have nothing to offer them.