Sintashta man being welcomed to the Indus valley circa 1500 BC

[Deleted member 110192]

Because the white dude is an Australian porn content creator called Girthmaster. He’s got 7” girth.

I’m so glad I didn’t know that

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I’m so glad I didn’t know that

I think I’ve seen their porn vid before. Not too sure.

 

[MiserableMan]

That’s the whole point; the IVC was already in decline by the time they entered. That said, we don’t have actual IVC remains; there’s a lot of IVC kanging going on but nobody can really claim it. What we do have is IVCp and they were 70% Iran_N, 30% SAHG. Since they had no Steppe ancestry, and most if not all modern-day South Asians have Steppe, they belong to a different cline altogether, and their admixture proportions aren’t found in any modern-day groups. You have the Baloch and Brahui who are >65% Iran_N, but also <10% SAHG, so while they’re the closest to those proportions, even they are way off, technically speaking. IVC kanging is even more cringe than Steppe kanging because at least it’s more realistic. They will say that high SAHG tribals are “the face of IVC” but again, they are 70-80% SAHG and 20-30% Iran_N, those aren’t even IVCp admixture levels. Finally, we are talking about the Aryans here. They were not peaceful peoples. Europeans have always been violent up until the 20th century. Just look at how they always fought each other and how they colonized other nations despite being “civilized.” Now imagine them in their uncivilized form that they were in over 2000 years ago. Many or most South Asians have R1a as their Y-DNA and this originated, ultimately, in the East European steppes, passed down onto them from the invading Aryans. To think it was a peaceful process is just delusional to say the least. You could perhaps say that about when Iranian Neolithic farmers entered South Asia. Farmers are rarely uncivilized brutes.

The Sintashsta weren't really Europeans though, they lived around the North kazaksthan steppe, and slowly migrated south. There has been plenty of evidence that they migrated slowly over the centuries and not in large numbers to the south Asian subcontinent and pretty much took over what was left of the IVC valley region around 2500-1900 BC. What i am saying is that they realistically could not have managed to rape through the continent because they did not have the population nor the amount of resources it would have taken to achieve such a thing.
This theory is currently the most accepted one as well, since the men of IVC were fairly equal to the sintahasta men in physical characteristics as well, both being around 5,9-5-10 on average, plus the fact that IVC had far more resources compared to a bunch of nomads with little resources to spare on things like conquest.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

I think I’ve seen their porn vid before. Not too sure.

I’m forbidding myself from watching porn lately

I’m doing it from my imagination now, it mogs

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

The Sintashsta weren't really Europeans though, they lived around the North kazaksthan steppe, and slowly migrated south. There has been plenty of evidence that they migrated slowly over the centuries and not in large numbers to the south Asian subcontinent and pretty much took over what was left of the IVC valley region around 2500-1900 BC. What i am saying is that they realistically could not have managed to rape through the continent because they did not have the population nor the amount of resources it would have taken to achieve such a thing.
This theory is currently the most accepted one as well, since the men of IVC were fairly equal to the sintahasta men in physical characteristics as well, both being around 5,9-5-10 on average, plus the fact that IVC had far more resources compared to a bunch of nomads with little resources to spare on things like conquest.

They were obviously unable to invade the Indus Valley region at its peak; they wouldn’t have been able to, since they would have to be outnumbered. They only invaded the region after the fall of the IVC. I believe the first region they invaded was Punjab, and from there they spread elsewhere. It’s known that the proto-Vedic peoples settled there in 1500 BC before migrating further east. As for the evidence re: slow migrations, can you link them? Indian sources don’t count since they’re not reliable. There’s a reason the Sinauli samples haven’t been released since it goes against the Out of India theory. I’m aware that IVCp were the tallest, but we can’t say anything about IVC since we don’t have their remains. We aren’t sure how much they deviated from IVCp or if there was no deviation at all. I guess we will never know. IVCp were those from Iran and Turkmenistan, though you already knew that probably. As for white supremacists, well there’s the Mitanni that you could remind them of. I discovered today that they’re going to sequence two Mitanni graves or something like that. Would be interesting to see. Hopefully they’re that of the ruling elite and not just a citizen under Mitanni rule.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

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I’m forbidding myself from watching porn lately

I’m doing it from my imagination now, it mogs

Woah. I prefer porn.

 

[MiserableMan]

They were obviously unable to invade the Indus Valley region at its peak; they wouldn’t have been able to, since they would have to be outnumbered. They only invaded the region after the fall of the IVC. I believe the first region they invaded was Punjab, and from there they spread elsewhere. It’s known that the proto-Vedic peoples settled there in 1500 BC before migrating further east. As for the evidence re: slow migrations, can you link them? Indian sources don’t count since they’re not reliable. There’s a reason the Sinauli samples haven’t been released since it goes against the Out of India theory. I’m aware that IVCp were the tallest, but we can’t say anything about IVC since we don’t have their remains. We aren’t sure how much they deviated from IVCp or if there was no deviation at all. I guess we will never know. IVCp were those from Iran and Turkmenistan, though you already knew that probably. As for white supremacists, well there’s the Mitanni that you could remind them of. I discovered today that they’re going to sequence two Mitanni graves or something like that. Would be interesting to see. Hopefully they’re that of the ruling elite and not just a citizen under Mitanni rule.

"The migration of Sintashta people to South Asia was not a single, rapid event but a slow diffusion of culture and people that occurred between 1800 and 1600 BC"
this all i could find right now, would share more id i find the right study.

 

[MiserableMan]

They were obviously unable to invade the Indus Valley region at its peak; they wouldn’t have been able to, since they would have to be outnumbered. They only invaded the region after the fall of the IVC. I believe the first region they invaded was Punjab, and from there they spread elsewhere. It’s known that the proto-Vedic peoples settled there in 1500 BC before migrating further east. As for the evidence re: slow migrations, can you link them? Indian sources don’t count since they’re not reliable. There’s a reason the Sinauli samples haven’t been released since it goes against the Out of India theory. I’m aware that IVCp were the tallest, but we can’t say anything about IVC since we don’t have their remains. We aren’t sure how much they deviated from IVCp or if there was no deviation at all. I guess we will never know. IVCp were those from Iran and Turkmenistan, though you already knew that probably. As for white supremacists, well there’s the Mitanni that you could remind them of. I discovered today that they’re going to sequence two Mitanni graves or something like that. Would be interesting to see. Hopefully they’re that of the ruling elite and not just a citizen under Mitanni rule.

Also the 1500 Bc date has been extended back to 2500-2000Bc now, since a few years back they found chariots in Rakhigari dating to araound that time period, which would mean the migration had already began by then. Also the Cemetery H culture1900-1200BC and Painted Grey ware(Something like that don't remember) culture in 1500Bc-600Bc which were one of the first Indo-Aryan culture in south Asian further supports my statement.
The Rigvedic story of Devodas defeating the Kirati king Shambar around 1800Bc-1400Bc should also be taken into consideration, since Kiratis lived in modern day Himachal and uttrakhand and were kicked out of there by the Indo-Aryans.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Also the 1500 Bc date has been extended back to 2500-2000Bc now, since a few years back they found chariots in Rakhigari dating to araound that time period, which would mean the migration had already began by then. Also the Painted Grey ware(Something like that don't remember) culture in 2000-1200Bc which was the first Indo-Aryan culture in south Asian further supports my statement.
The Rigvedic story of Devodas defeating the Kirati king Shambar around 1800Bc-1400Bc should also be taken into consideration, since Kiratis lived in modern day Himachal and uttrakhand and were kicked out of there by the Indo-Aryans.

Those weren’t war chariots like the Aryans had. They had a different intended purpose; I think for the moving of animals but don’t quote me on that. Also, the first work was composed in 1500 BC, not 1800 BC. That said, those works aren’t necessarily rooted in historical facts; most of them are just stories. The only people who treat them as infallible facts are Hindus, but that doesn’t mean they’re right about that.

 

[MiserableMan]

Those weren’t war chariots like the Aryans had. They had a different intended purpose; I think for the moving of animals but don’t quote me on that. Also, the first work was composed in 1500 BC, not 1800 BC. That said, those works aren’t necessarily rooted in historical facts; most of them are just stories. The only people who treat them as infallible facts are Hindus, but that doesn’t mean they’re right about that.

Well the dates have been pushed here and there since the first findings, and the Cemetery H culture was already around by 1900BC, IVC had already declined by that time period. The devodas story does take place around 1800Bc-1400Bc, there is actually a decent amount of evidence in lahol and spiti region of Himachal that the war did actually took place. Some villages around that region still pass down those stories although it could be about some other incident.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Well the dates have been pushed here and there since the first findings, and the Cemetery H culture was already around by 1900BC, IVC had already declined by that time period. The devodas story does take place around 1800Bc-1400Bc, there is actually a decent amount of evidence in lahol and spiti region of Himachal that the war did actually took place. Some villages around that region still pass down those stories although it could be about some other incident.

The findings aren’t war chariots. It’s possible for different cultures to create things despite being miles apart. They never found any weapons belonging to the IVC so that means those weapons were from a culture that wasn’t related to them. Let’s say that it did take place in 1800 BC, then it would mean that the IVC declined centuries before that. But that’s not possible. 1400 BC seems more likely because that’s after the Aryans invaded. The IVC always stood out from different civilizations and that’s what makes scholars scratch their heads. No palaces, no weapons, etc. It’s an entire mindfuck for archeological people. It defies their expectations and knowledge of all other civilizations.

 

[MiserableMan]

The findings aren’t war chariots. It’s possible for different cultures to create things despite being miles apart. They never found any weapons belonging to the IVC so that means those weapons were from a culture that wasn’t related to them. Let’s say that it did take place in 1800 BC, then it would mean that the IVC declined centuries before that. But that’s not possible. 1400 BC seems more likely because that’s after the Aryans invaded. The IVC always stood out from different civilizations and that’s what makes scholars scratch their heads. No palaces, no weapons, etc. It’s an entire mindfuck for archeological people. It defies their expectations and knowledge of all other civilizations.

The IVC did have weapons, although they were a peaceful civilization, they did have a mercenary system as well. As recorded by the Mesopatamians who called them "Melluha", i did botch the spelling don't pay mind to that. So no they weren't exactly a entirely defenseless society. They also did seem to have had a ruling or noble class, but i can't really find much on that particular topic. Also their walls were fortified with advanced brick arcitecture, which would suggest they did end up in some skrimishes with the local tribes around them.

• Spearheads and arrowheads: Common weapons found, made primarily of copper, bronze, and bone. Some seals also depict figures carrying bows and arrows.
• Axes: Flat, oblong axes made from copper and bronze have been recovered.
• Daggers and knives: Primarily made of copper and stone. Some are described as relatively un-sharp, suggesting they may have served multiple household or hunting purposes a well as self defense.
• Mace-heads: Stone and copper mace-heads have been found, though they are considered rare.
• Sling balls: Terracotta or stone balls used as missiles with a sling were a common defensive weapon.

The myth of the "peaceful Indus"
While the lack of overt military evidence suggests a peaceful society, some historians caution against this conclusion. A key counterargument is that the lack of weapons in burials and excavated sites does not definitively prove the absence of warfare, as the Harappans may have simply kept such items separate from daily life. Warfare was likely on a smaller, more seasonal, and localized scale.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

The IVC did have weapons, although they were a peaceful civilization, they did have a mercenary system as well. As recorded by the Mesopatamians who called them "Melluha", i did botch the spelling don't pay mind to that. So no they weren't exactly a entirely defenseless society. They also did seem to have had a ruling or noble class, but i can't really find much on that particular topic. Also their walls were fortified with advanced brick arcitecture, which would suggest they did end up in some skrimishes with the local tribes around them.

• Spearheads and arrowheads: Common weapons found, made primarily of copper, bronze, and bone. Some seals also depict figures carrying bows and arrows.
• Axes: Flat, oblong axes made from copper and bronze have been recovered.
• Daggers and knives: Primarily made of copper and stone. Some are described as relatively un-sharp, suggesting they may have served multiple household or hunting purposes a well as self defense.
• Mace-heads: Stone and copper mace-heads have been found, though they are considered rare.
• Sling balls: Terracotta or stone balls used as missiles with a sling were a common defensive weapon.

The myth of the "peaceful Indus"
While the lack of overt military evidence suggests a peaceful society, some historians caution against this conclusion. A key counterargument is that the lack of weapons in burials and excavated sites does not definitively prove the absence of warfare, as the Harappans may have simply kept such items separate from daily life. Warfare was likely on a smaller, more seasonal, and localized scale.

They certainly did not have weapons. Just because AI says it, doesn’t mean it’s correct. AI is based on whatever we give it as input. We know nothing about the IVC or how their society actually worked; everything is just theories. But I like the mysterious aspect of it.

 

[MiserableMan]

They certainly did not have weapons. Just because AI says it, doesn’t mean it’s correct. AI is based on whatever we give it as input. We know nothing about the IVC or how their society actually worked; everything is just theories. But I like the mysterious aspect of it.

I took this from a different site, not only Ai. They did have weapons, the whole "they were peaceful civilization saar" is hindu cope spread by westcucks and hindu nationlists. They were a largely peaceful civilization yes, but they weren't defenceless. Considering the Most of IVC trades were of weapons made from damascus steel, they were one of the best metalurgist back then.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I took this from a different site, not only Ai. They did have weapons, the whole "they were peaceful civilization saar" is hindu cope spread by westcucks and hindu nationlists. They were a largely peaceful civilization yes, but they weren't defenceless. Considering the Most of IVC trades were of weapons made from damascus steel, they were one of the best metalurgist back then.

I got it from AI, got the exact same result. Doesn’t mean it’s true. And forget about dindu copes, they can’t even claim it because Hinduism came after the fall of IVC.