skin quality is getting worse

[Lauren de Graaf]

i started a new skincare routine but i feel my skin is getting worse, i understand that my skin barrier might be a little fucked atm but i just feel my skin is getting really cooked for some reason

morning:
cerave cleanser
20% azelaic acid
la roche posay B5 cream
la roche posay spf 50

night:
cerave cleanser
la roche posay B5 cream
1% taz
la roche posay B5 cream (again)
estradiol cream
40mg accutane

 

[insignia_]

What's the specific issue with your skin? What are you noticing?

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

What's the specific issue with your skin? What are you noticing?

my skin use to glow bro and also use to feel super smooth now its not rough but not how it use to be, id say this is in a 1-2 month window

 

[Aezac]

i started a new skincare routine but i feel my skin is getting worse, i understand that my skin barrier might be a little fucked atm but i just feel my skin is getting really cooked for some reason

morning:
cerave cleanser
20% azelaic acid
la roche posay B5 cream
la roche posay spf 50

night:
cerave cleanser
la roche posay B5 cream
1% taz
la roche posay B5 cream (again)
estradiol cream
40mg accutane

Where the fuck is the krokodil

 

[insignia_]

my skin use to glow bro and also use to feel super smooth now its not rough but not how it use to be, id say this is in a 1-2 month window

Can you either send a picture here or DM it to me?

I have an idea of what the issue might be but I want to take a look

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Can you either send a picture here or DM it to me?

I have an idea of what the issue might be but I want to take a look

This is now

And this is before when I thought it looked good

I’m also on 5% Minox and having to use my electric shaver a lot, could that be connected?

 

[insignia_]

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And this is before when I thought it looked good

I’m also on 5% Minox and having to use my electric shaver a lot, could that be connected?

When'd you start the accutane and when'd you start the tazarotene?

And no, probably not related to minoxidil or shaving unless your skin only got worse around the area you shave

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

When'd you start the accutane and when'd you start the tazarotene?

I’ve been on accutane for ages now like 2-3yrs
And only just kinnda started taz, I started taz because of the amplified skin cell turnover over effects for accutane scaring, switched from 0.5% tret

And no, probably not related to minoxidil or shaving unless your skin only got worse around the area you shave

I am getting a lot of facial hair and shaving around my cheeks more now, which is my mine area of concern

 

[insignia_]

I’ve been on accutane for ages now like 2-3yrs
And only just kinnda started taz, I started taz because of the amplified skin cell turnover over effects for accutane scaring, switched from 0.5% tret

40mg of accutane for the past 2-3 years or is the 40mg recent? Either way, I suggest dropping it to 5-10mg/day if you plan on using it indefinitely

40mg isotretinoin AND 1% tazarotene is crazy. My theory is that your barrier is just fucked AND your skin is dry right now

Also, your skin looks dry. Cicaplast isn't a moisturizer. It's mainly for barrier-repair, which is good, but I suggest also getting a moisturizer (the Cerave one works) and applying it before the cicaplast

I am getting a lot of facial hair and shaving around my cheeks more now, which is my mine area of concern

Yeah, feel free to continue shaving that if you'd like, UNLESS your electric shaver feels too harsh and worsens your skin after shaving. You could also get LHR if you really want to get rid of them, but I'd suggest stopping any strong retinoids whenever you do it

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

40mg of accutane for the past 2-3 years or is the 40mg recent? Either way, I suggest dropping it to 5-10mg/day if you plan on using it indefinitely

40mg isotretinoin AND 1% tazarotene is crazy. My theory is that your barrier is just fucked AND your skin is dry right now

Also, your skin looks dry. Cicaplast isn't a moisturizer. It's mainly for barrier-repair, which is good, but I suggest also getting a moisturizer (the Cerave one works) and applying it before the cicaplast


Yeah, feel free to continue shaving that if you'd like, UNLESS your electric shaver feels too harsh and worsens your skin after shaving. You could also get LHR if you really want to get rid of them, but I'd suggest stopping any strong retinoids whenever you do it

Fuck bro thanks so much, what about the e2 cream and az acid

 

[Glorious King]

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This is now

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And this is before when I thought it looked good

I’m also on 5% Minox and having to use my electric shaver a lot, could that be connected?

@TGUN. Is that you?

 

[Glorious King]

i started a new skincare routine but i feel my skin is getting worse, i understand that my skin barrier might be a little fucked atm but i just feel my skin is getting really cooked for some reason

morning:
cerave cleanser
20% azelaic acid
la roche posay B5 cream
la roche posay spf 50

night:
cerave cleanser
la roche posay B5 cream
1% taz
la roche posay B5 cream (again)
estradiol cream
40mg accutane

40 mg accutane is the problem

Lower the dose if u haven't got any acne

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

40 mg accutane is the problem

Lower the dose if u haven't got any acne

10-20?

 

[Glorious King]

10-20?

Try 20

@Zeta used to do that daily

 

[insignia_]

Fuck bro thanks so much, what about the e2 cream and az acid

Switch to 0.3% estriol. I really don't think you should be using estradiol

Drop the azelaic acid to 10% or 15% unless there's still too much left in the tube

 

[_Nazareth_]

i started a new skincare routine but i feel my skin is getting worse, i understand that my skin barrier might be a little fucked atm but i just feel my skin is getting really cooked for some reason

morning:
cerave cleanser
20% azelaic acid
la roche posay B5 cream
la roche posay spf 50

night:
cerave cleanser
la roche posay B5 cream
1% taz
la roche posay B5 cream (again)
estradiol cream
40mg accutane

Barrier is fucked from taz and accutane. I did the same thing but with 20mg accutane and 0.025 tret and my skin was hyper sensitive and I started peeling, do NOT use at the same time

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Switch to 0.3% estriol. I really don't think you should be using estradio

i use this sorry got mixed up

Drop the azelaic acid to 10% or 15% unless there's still too much left in the tube

its basically a full tube left, also how often should i be applying these products

and also i shouldnt be using both accutane and retinoids at the same time?

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Barrier is fucked from taz and accutane. I did the same thing but with 20mg accutane and 0.025 tret and my skin was hyper sensitive and I started peeling, do NOT use at the same time

i felt my skin was okay when i was using tret and accutane

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Try 20

@Zeta used to do that daily

should i use accutane and 0.5% tret at the same time

 

[Glorious King]

should i use accutane and 0.5% tret at the same time

The problem is that the skin can get hypersensitive

From my exp I didn't face any issues

But my buddy is white and his skin started peeling off

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

The problem is that the skin can get hypersensitive

From my exp I didn't face any issues

But my buddy is white and his skin started peeling off

Trial and error ig, thanks bro

 

[_Nazareth_]

i felt my skin was okay when i was using tret and accutane

Yeah then the taz was too much

 

[theübermenschboy]

Why did you switch to 1% taz directly? Why is there no moisturiser in the routine when you are on isotret +taz?

Drop the isotret to 5mg . Add a moisturiser in the morning and replace the two time cicaplast balm with moisturiser first then .5 taz then balm. Your skin is likely irritated . Let it soothe a little.

 

[insignia_]

View attachment 5339816 i use this sorry got mixed up


its basically a full tube left, also how often should i be applying these products

and also i shouldnt be using both accutane and retinoids at the same time?

Summary of what you should do:

- The estriol is fine, you can use it nightly
- Azelaic acid every morning, before the moisturizer
- Lower the isotretinoin dose to 10mg considering you've been on 40mg for 3 years, no need to take 40mg for any longer
- Either switch to a tretinoin concentration you tolerate or reduce the tazarotene frequency to 3x a week
- Get rid of cicaplast in the morning and get rid of the cicaplast before tazarotene at night. Cicaplast only at night after moisturizer
- Get a moisturizer and use it in the morning (before your SPF) and night (before your cicaplast)
- Stop cleansing in the morning, just use water

Your finished routine should look something like this:
AM

1. Wash your face with water
2. Azelaic acid every morning
3. Cerave moisturizer
4. SPF

PM

1. Cerave cleanser
2. Estriol nightly (wait for it to absorb)
3. Tazarotene 2-3x a week (wait for it to absorb)
4. Cerave moisturizer
5. Cicaplast

Daily
10-20mg isotretinoin

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Summary of what you should do:

- The estriol is fine, you can use it nightly
- Azelaic acid every morning, before the moisturizer
- Lower the isotretinoin dose to 10mg considering you've been on 40mg for 3 years, no need to take 40mg for any longer
- Either switch to a tretinoin concentration you tolerate or reduce the tazarotene frequency to 3x a week
- Get rid of cicaplast in the morning and get rid of the cicaplast before tazarotene at night. Cicaplast only at night after moisturizer
- Get a moisturizer and use it in the morning (before your SPF) and night (before your cicaplast)
- Stop cleansing in the morning, just use water

Your finished routine should look something like this:
AM

1. Wash your face with water
2. Azelaic acid every morning
3. Cerave moisturizer
4. SPF

PM

1. Cerave cleanser
2. Estriol nightly (wait for it to absorb)
3. Tazarotene 2-3x a week (wait for it to absorb)
4. Cerave moisturizer
5. Cicaplast

Daily
10-20mg isotretinoin

Holly fuck bro, your a fucking king, I have the blue cerave moisturiser will that do, and also why no cleanser in the morning, I feel it helps no?

 

[insignia_]

Holly fuck bro, your a fucking king, I have the blue cerave moisturiser will that do, and also why no cleanser in the morning, I feel it helps no?

- Yes it'll do

- No moisturizer in the morning to avoid overstripping your barrier. Cleanse at night when you've been awake all day, sweating, doing activities, etc.

 

[1966Ford]

What's the brand name of the estradiol cream?

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

What's the brand name of the estradiol cream?

 

[1966Ford]

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Man you really bullshitted me there.. This is Estriol, it's weaker than Estradiol...

Phew at least you still have your penis

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

Man you really bullshitted me there.. This is Estriol, it's weaker than Estradiol...

Phew at least you still have your penis

yep ahahha, auto corrected to Estradiol cream im pretty sure when i posted this thread