Slow vs Rapid MSE?

[Deleted member 4715]

I Just had a consultation with an orthodontist who said it is possible to do MSE but that he thinks the slow version of MSE is better than the rapid one. Previously i didnt even know that there was a slow MSE. How would this affect the results especially in the zygomatic arch?
Also how can you convince someone to expand the full 10mm

 

[Romnel]

watching this thread coz I wanna know too

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Slow is indeed better bc you can use the Facepuller longer

 

[Deleted member 4715]

Slow is indeed better bc you can use the Facepuller longer

Good point, but will there be enough force on the zygomaticotemporal suture to increase zygomatic width?

 

[Deleted member 5683]

bumo

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

 

[Deleted member 3020]

i think it's less turns and the first version of mse.

Good point, but will there be enough force on the zygomaticotemporal suture to increase zygomatic width?

as long as u split the midpalatal suture u will get zygoma width

 

[randomvanish]

how many months you need to fully recover from mse ?

 

[Romnel]

how many months you need to fully recover from mse ?

As far as I'm aware it's less than 3 months for expansion and then recovery is however long it takes to close the tooth gap (usually takes 6-12 months I think) but the only unpleasant bit is at the start before the suture is broken. Nothing like an osteonomy where there's swelling and pain and a gradual recovery.
That's my impression anyway, but I'm not very knowledgeable on it tbh.

 

[Deleted member 4715]

i think it's less turns and the first version of mse.



as long as u split the midpalatal suture u will get zygoma width

Less turns = less expansion?

 

[Deleted member 1849]

How long would MSE be used? Prep, installation and the finish. 6 months with rapid expansion?

 

[Deleted member 3020]

Less turns = less expansion?

yes

 

[Deleted member 4715]

yes

So is the left one the slow version? And do orthodontotists always expand to the full capacity of the appliance? Btw. can you send a link to that website? Thanks

 

[Deleted member 3020]

So is the left one the slow version? And do orthodontotists always expand to the full capacity of the appliance? Btw. can you send a link to that website? Thanks

left one is the old version of mse, less rapid and smaller capacity. it's up to you if u wanna expand fully, u might need mandible expansion tho.

https://62222079-9554-470a-8702-b9943649d392.filesusr.com/ugd/87f545_78228dc38f5649a8aaab13c28115eca5.pdf

actually nvm it says the old version is faster

 

[Deleted member 4715]

left one is the old version of mse, less rapid and smaller capacity. it's up to you if u wanna expand fully, u might need mandible expansion tho.

https://62222079-9554-470a-8702-b9943649d392.filesusr.com/ugd/87f545_78228dc38f5649a8aaab13c28115eca5.pdf

actually nvm it says the old version is faster

What do you mean when you say it is up to me if I want to expand fully? Say, an Orthodontist thinks of expanding only 6mm, how would you convince him to expand further?

 

[Deleted member 3020]

What do you mean when you say it is up to me if I want to expand fully? Say, an Orthodontist thinks of expanding only 6mm, how would you convince him to expand further?

it's ur money