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Getting a chin and jawline would ascend so many people here. This would be renamed slayermax.org
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Your whole life is dictated by a few mm of forward growth.the difference between hollywood actor and incel is a few mms of chin
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Its a good solution to me tbh.ok lemme buy a new chin and jaw so high iq and easy solution![]()
not if you lack a chin it only helps with downward growthBEard might fix this
lifefuel for me suifuel for othersGetting a chin and jawline would ascend so many people here. This would be renamed slayermax.org
Beard helps with downward growth?not if you lack a chin it only helps with downward growth
on the dating market there is a plenty of hot men who compensate an average recession with strong browridge, strong lower orbital rim, straight nose, and most of all SHORT PHYLTRUMYour whole life is dictated by a few mm of forward growth.
beard helps in hiding one's long phyltrum and non-existent small lipsBeard helps with downward growth?![]()
Nose is a cope and eyes are a cope unless they are hunter eye tier. The most change you will see in your face is your lower third.on the dating market there is a plenty of hot men who compensate an average recession with strong browridge, strong lower orbital rim, straight nose, and most of all SHORT PHYLTRUM
SHORT PHYLTRUM AND FULL LIPS ARE EVERYTHING
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above picture: Simone Berlini, tiktok creator
on the dating market there is a plenty of hot men who compensate an average recession with strong browridge, strong lower orbital rim, straight nose, and most of all SHORT PHYLTRUM
SHORT PHYLTRUM AND FULL LIPS ARE EVERYTHING
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above picture: Simone Berlini, tiktok creator
medium to longish philtrum is better, does justin bieber have a short philtrum? alain delon?on the dating market there is a plenty of hot men who compensate an average recession with strong browridge, strong lower orbital rim, straight nose, and most of all SHORT PHYLTRUM
SHORT PHYLTRUM AND FULL LIPS ARE EVERYTHING
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above picture: Simone Berlini, tiktok creator
very true OP. with a good lower third maxilaGetting a chin and jawline would ascend so many people here. This would be renamed slayermax.org
I don't see any difference between these 2 picturesthe difference between hollywood actor and incel is a few mms of chin
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How about making a narrowish jaw look a bit widerbeard helps in hiding one's long phyltrum and non-existent small lips
How about making a narrowish jaw look a bit wider![]()
in my opinion..How about making a narrowish jaw look a bit wider![]()
So many people here would ascend with a good chin and jawline.
it is only the case of seriously recessed people, suffering grave deep bite, visible second class or third class malocclusion or patological micrognatia.
(serious facial recession with good occlusion is still possible, but rare)
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For people with average facial recession like me, bimaxillary surgery will not have such impact to change their life
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being born with many small flaws (high hairline, lack of lower orbital rim, long philtrum) is a curse because in order to change attractivity many expensive surgeries which do nothing alone are necessary.
Sometimes even small surgeries fail or lead to a botched result (in my case two otoplasties were not enough to give me symmetrical ears)
it's much better being born with one huge flaw and getting rid of it with one surgery. It is the case of people suffering grave malocclusion, norwood 3 hair loss, short IPD (OBO) etc
Idk brocel if that was the case I woulda been giga Chadlips and philtrum are more important than everything else
Sorry for being harsh but you're bitching while you have a pencil neck and 0 muscle mass. If you just train with your pretty boy face the majority of teenagers would find you hotSo many people here would ascend with a good chin and jawline.
it is only the case of seriously recessed people, suffering grave deep bite, visible second class or third class malocclusion or patological micrognatia.
(serious facial recession with good occlusion is still possible, but rare)
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For people with average facial recession like me, bimaxillary surgery will not have such impact to change their life
View attachment 1448229 View attachment 1448230 View attachment 1448231
being born with many small flaws (high hairline, lack of lower orbital rim, long philtrum) is a curse because in order to change attractivity many expensive surgeries which do nothing alone are necessary.
Sometimes even small surgeries fail or lead to a botched result (in my case two otoplasties were not enough to give me symmetrical ears)
it's much better being born with one huge flaw and getting rid of it with one surgery. It is the case of people suffering grave malocclusion, norwood 3 hair loss, short IPD (OBO) etc
trust me bimax would ascend you hardSo many people here would ascend with a good chin and jawline.
it is only the case of seriously recessed people, suffering grave deep bite, visible second class or third class malocclusion or patological micrognatia.
(serious facial recession with good occlusion is still possible, but rare)
View attachment 1448238 View attachment 1448244View attachment 1448239
For people with average facial recession like me, bimaxillary surgery will not have such impact to change their life
View attachment 1448229 View attachment 1448230 View attachment 1448231
being born with many small flaws (high hairline, lack of lower orbital rim, long philtrum) is a curse because in order to change attractivity many expensive surgeries which do nothing alone are necessary.
Sometimes even small surgeries fail or lead to a botched result (in my case two otoplasties were not enough to give me symmetrical ears)
it's much better being born with one huge flaw and getting rid of it with one surgery. It is the case of people suffering grave malocclusion, norwood 3 hair loss, short IPD (OBO) etc
Sorry for being harsh but you're bitching while you have a pencil neck and 0 muscle mass. If you just train with your pretty boy face the majority of teenagers would find you hot
Didnt attack. From the pictures your neck looks smalldon't attack a person if you don't know him.
I neck curl a 20kg weight plate per 35 reps
Good take I will definitely ascend my face via CHIND SHIELD and WRAPAROUND JAW IMPLANT
despite not being highly recessed, bimax remains the surgery with highest impact on my face.trust me bimax would ascend you hard![]()
Philtrum length is not that important tbh.on the dating market there is a plenty of hot men who compensate an average recession with strong browridge, strong lower orbital rim, straight nose, and most of all SHORT PHYLTRUM
SHORT PHYLTRUM AND FULL LIPS ARE EVERYTHING
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above picture: Simone Berlini, tiktok creator
bimax can help lips. and hairline looks fine to me, would look even better if you could assume correct posture (after bimax opens up airway)despite not being highly recessed, bimax remains the surgery with highest impact on my face.
according to @Slayerino, lip lift + hairline lowering would have even more impact
bimax would cost 12k while lip lift + hairline lowering 5k
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whats that second pic supposed to mean, he got implants?View attachment 1448852View attachment 1448856
JFL, we are in 2021 and still some people believe genioplasty and jaw implants will make their face better.
Wraparaund jaw implants have no purpose, and no aesthetic benefit. All jaw implants results are highly uncanny, turning recessed people into potatofaces or Buzzlightyearfaces.
wraparound jaw implants only advance chin and jawline whereas your shitty nasolabial fold, your recessed dental arches, your dead upper lip, and your fat long philtrum will remain the same.
People paying 15k to look like plastic box really deserve the post-surgery regret they always get
You don't even know my base jflView attachment 1448852View attachment 1448856
JFL, we are in 2021 and still some people believe genioplasty and jaw implants will make their face better.
Wraparaund jaw implants have no purpose, and no aesthetic benefit. All jaw implants results are highly uncanny, turning recessed people into potatofaces or Buzzlightyearfaces.
wraparound jaw implants only advance chin and jawline whereas your shitty nasolabial fold, your recessed dental arches, your dead upper lip, and your fat long philtrum will remain the same.
People paying 15k to look like plastic box really deserve the post-surgery regret they always get
not to mention jaw implants are high complicationsView attachment 1448852View attachment 1448856
JFL, we are in 2021 and still some people believe genioplasty and jaw implants will make their face better.
Wraparaund jaw implants have no purpose, and no aesthetic benefit. All jaw implants results are highly uncanny, turning recessed people into potatofaces or Buzzlightyearfaces.
wraparound jaw implants only advance chin and jawline whereas your shitty nasolabial fold, your recessed dental arches, your dead upper lip, and your fat long philtrum will remain the same.
People paying 15k to look like plastic box really deserve the post-surgery regret they always get
@AlbanianIncel had botched jaw angle implants inserted by Ramierinot to mention jaw implants are high complications
yep, this is just one of many horror stories@AlbanianIncel had botched jaw angle implants inserted by Ramieri
basically his right jaw angle implant partialy detatched leaving a hole in his ramus.
Ramieri performed a free revision surgery but he failed
Based on pics can you judge what I need?Jaw implants both angled and wraparound are legit for people who have normal occlusion and forward growth but just lack overall bone mass. The thing is it completely depends on the person... some benefit a lot from bimax others just from an implant while some people need both.
Foids know about beard. Beard caps you at the 90th percentile for sure.BEard might fix this
I have severe mandibular deficiency with good occlusion (very slight overbite). My occlusion plane is also almost perfect.So many people here would ascend with a good chin and jawline.
it is only the case of seriously recessed people, suffering grave deep bite, visible second class or third class malocclusion or patological micrognatia.
(serious facial recession with good occlusion is still possible, but rare)
View attachment 1448238 View attachment 1448244View attachment 1448239
For people with average facial recession like me, bimaxillary surgery will not have such impact to change their life
View attachment 1448229 View attachment 1448230 View attachment 1448231
being born with many small flaws (high hairline, lack of lower orbital rim, long philtrum) is a curse because in order to change attractivity many expensive surgeries which do nothing alone are necessary.
Sometimes even small surgeries fail or lead to a botched result (in my case two otoplasties were not enough to give me symmetrical ears)
it's much better being born with one huge flaw and getting rid of it with one surgery. It is the case of people suffering grave malocclusion, norwood 3 hair loss, short IPD (OBO) etc
I have severe mandibular deficiency with good occlusion (very slight overbite). My occlusion plane is also almost perfect.
What this means, is that I can't get any CCW and no BSSO without having to advance my maxilla first. It is actually far worse than having bad occlusion, because like this I have no idea why my mandible is so small? I feel like it is a problem with soft tissue as well, considering I have receding gums on my lower jaw, but normal gums on my upper. Also very little soft tissue on my chin (basically just skin on bone).
Maybe MSE, bimax and genio and no implants? Alfaro mentioned once that just by doing BSSO, the mandible will appear wider even though it actually didnt get wider. So maybe I wouldn't need implants. Also my masseters are the same width as my zyggos, so a ramus implant for example might just give me an egg shaped skull with a lower third that is too prominentI mean yes, if your mandible and maxilla are both recessed you will have correct occlusion.
You need bimax but without CCW, just advancement. Then you can get implants for your jaw and chin.
Maybe MSE, bimax and genio and no implants? Alfaro mentioned once that just by doing BSSO, the mandible will appear wider even though it actually didnt get wider. So maybe I wouldn't need implants. Also my masseters are the same width as my zyggos, so a ramus implant for example might just give me an egg shaped skull with a lower third that is too prominent
Getting a chin and jawline would ascend so many people here. This would be renamed slayermax.org
did he post that here or on an italian forum?@AlbanianIncel had botched jaw angle implants inserted by Ramieri
basically his right jaw angle implant partialy detatched leaving a hole in his ramus.
Ramieri performed a free revision surgery but he failed