So What's the Verdict?

[hypernormie]

Now that there has been an influx of new people into this space and most are
Gen Z who are growing up inundated with BP and hypergamy in their formative years and also quite a few streamermaxxed Chadcels broadcasting their lives for the world to see

I figure it's a good time to gather more info on the age old question...what's REALLY more important for slaying height or face?

All this young blood being made aware of the evils of this world surely we must be able to glean some novel insights into such a pivotal aspect of our collective fates

Please explain your answer below and whatever experience if any finally settled the debate for you

 

[samgrattlescouilles]

Hard question to answer id say face since i see a lot of subhuman deformed tallcels but conventionally good looking guys are rare at least where i live very few htn roam the streets and they stand out more

 

[danyisthegoat]

Now that there has been an influx of new people into this space and most are
Gen Z who are growing up inundated with BP and hypergamy in their formative years and also quite a few streamermaxxed Chadcels broadcasting their lives for the world to see

I figure it's a good time to gather more info on the age old question...what's REALLY more important for slaying height or face?

All this young blood being made aware of the evils of this world surely we must be able to glean some novel insights into such a pivotal aspect of our collective fates

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Please explain your answer below and whatever experience if any finally settled the debate for you

As long as you're average height at least then face if not then height

 

[hypernormie]

Hard question to answer id say face since i see a lot of subhuman deformed tallcels but conventionally good looking guys are rare at least where i live very few htn roam the streets and they stand out more

would edge towards face as well.

I saw this chart recently which indicated that good looking male faces have an extreme advantage compared to good looking female faces.

This falls in line with my intuitions and experience and I think maps directly onto what we know about hypergamy where superficially equal traits are not weighed the same due to an underlying asymmetry in the reproductive strategies between the sexes.
Similar to how a male who has a lot of casual sex is signally something fundamentally different than a woman who does the same despite the behavior being identical.

It seems good looking males hold a unique status in the world compared to good looking women. Tall men hold a similarly unique status but it doesn't seem as potent a signal of genetic quality when people are forced to select.

The face is also a more complex signal than body height as facial attractiveness is determined through the harmonious interaction of multiple features rather than the dominance of one. In short, more things need to go right for your face to be majestic than would need to go right for height to exceed the average, and this may explain why it is weighed more heavily.

Imo, so long as you are at least average height, a superior face is the more advantageous quality to have in life in general and will get you more consistent results from slaying.

Imo, it is better to be slightly below average height with an above average face than to be slightly above average height with a below average face.

So for example, better to be a 5'7 CL than a 6'3 LTN
And tbh I don't think even extreme heights flip this dynamic in regard to results with women. For example is being a 6'7 LTN better than being a 5'7 Chad in regard to results with women? I don't think so...

But what do you think?

Here's the chart btw

 

[Exodus71]

Face, but you have to be atleast 5'8.

 

[hypernormie]

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[samgrattlescouilles]

This shitty ass website wont let me post bc of cloudflare and deleted half my post
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This falls in line with my intuitions and experience and I think maps directly onto what we know about hypergamy where superficially equal traits are not weighted the same due to an underlying asymmetry in the reproductive strategies between the sexes.

Similar to how a male who has a lot of casual sex is signally something fundamentally different than a woman who does the same despite the behavior being identical.
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Not sure i understood this part correctly can you detail it?


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It seems good looking males hold a unique status in the world compared to good looking women. Tall men hold an similarly unique status but it doesn't seem as potent a signal of genetic quality when people are forced to select.



The face is also a more complex signal than body height as facial attractiveness is determined through the harmonious interaction of multiple features rather than the dominance of one. In short, more things need to go right for your face to be majestic than would need to go right for height to exceed the average, and this may explain why it is weighed more heavily.
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Makes sense attractivness is supposed to signal optimal genetics for reproducing so the face being more valued than height since it indicates more above average genetic traits not sure if i worded this correclty tho

This theory makes a lot of sense for our evolved brains but atttactivness is based on the limbic system / mamalian brain and im not sure a primitive subconcious part of our brain can treat that much data so fast

Actually i checked and the limbic system scans an insane amount of data in like 50ms so its plausible




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Imo so long as you are at least average height, a superior face is the more advantageous quality to have in life in general and will get you more consistent results from slaying.



Imo opinion it is better to be slightly below average height with an above average face than to be slightly above average height with a below average face.



So for example, better to be a 5'7 CL than a 6'3 LTN

And tbh I don't think even extreme heights flip this dynamic in regard to results with women. For example is being a 6'7 LTN better than being a 5'7 Chad in regard to results with women? I don't think so...



But what do you think?
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If we look purely on statistics a 6ft7 male is .001% of the world population which is quite rare

Idk how many ppl can be qualified as actual chads but its definetly less since a chad is like insane ratios with very strong features and the halo effect from the face is crazy we can see exemples like tom cruise

So a 5ft7 chad has a higher smv defo

But the height flip isnt that extrême 5ft7 isnt manlet height its below average but not that extreme so chad halo will definetly carry it

A much more interesting debate is 6ft7 ltn smv vs 5ft5 chad smv

At 5ft5 its quite short shorter than a lot of foids

I have no clue since even though

i saw only one chad in my life and his halo was insane no homo he was so gl

idk if the halo can save a manlet height like this


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Here's the chart btw

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Chart makes sense from my personal experience perceived beauty on females compared to rating is linear while on males its more extreme since very few males have good dimo and features

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Overall i agree with you i also like your wording mogs mine jfl im on my phone and english is not my first language i hope its readable nontheless

 

[hypernormie]

This shitty ass website wont let me post bc of cloudflare and deleted half my post
Thakfully i copied it before refreshinf


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This falls in line with my intuitions and experience and I think maps directly onto what we know about hypergamy where superficially equal traits are not weighted the same due to an underlying asymmetry in the reproductive strategies between the sexes.

Similar to how a male who has a lot of casual sex is signally something fundamentally different than a woman who does the same despite the behavior being identical.
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Not sure i understood this part correctly can you detail it?


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It seems good looking males hold a unique status in the world compared to good looking women. Tall men hold an similarly unique status but it doesn't seem as potent a signal of genetic quality when people are forced to select.



The face is also a more complex signal than body height as facial attractiveness is determined through the harmonious interaction of multiple features rather than the dominance of one. In short, more things need to go right for your face to be majestic than would need to go right for height to exceed the average, and this may explain why it is weighed more heavily.
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Makes sense attractivness is supposed to signal optimal genetics for reproducing so the face being more valued than height since it indicates more above average genetic traits not sure if i worded this correclty tho

This theory makes a lot of sense for our evolved brains but atttactivness is based on the limbic system / mamalian brain and im not sure a primitive subconcious part of our brain can treat that much data so fast

Actually i checked and the limbic system scans an insane amount of data in like 50ms so its plausible




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Imo so long as you are at least average height, a superior face is the more advantageous quality to have in life in general and will get you more consistent results from slaying.



Imo opinion it is better to be slightly below average height with an above average face than to be slightly above average height with a below average face.



So for example, better to be a 5'7 CL than a 6'3 LTN

And tbh I don't think even extreme heights flip this dynamic in regard to results with women. For example is being a 6'7 LTN better than being a 5'7 Chad in regard to results with women? I don't think so...



But what do you think?
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If we look purely on statistics a 6ft7 male is .001% of the world population which is quite rare

Idk how many ppl can be qualified as actual chads but its definetly less since a chad is like insane ratios with very strong features and the halo effect from the face is crazy we can see exemples like tom cruise

So a 5ft7 chad has a higher smv defo

But the height flip isnt that extrême 5ft7 isnt manlet height its below average but not that extreme so chad halo will definetly carry it

A much more interesting debate is 6ft7 ltn smv vs 5ft5 chad smv

At 5ft5 its quite short shorter than a lot of foids

I have no clue since even though

i saw only one chad in my life and his halo was insane no homo he was so gl

idk if the halo can save a manlet height like this


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Here's the chart btw

1000047366.jpg

Chart makes sense from my personal experience perceived beauty on females compared to rating is linear while on males its more extreme since very few males have good dimo and features

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Overall i agree with you i also like your wording mogs mine jfl im on my phone and english is not my first language i hope its readable nontheless

The reason I chose those heights to PSL is because they are equivalent

LTN is still considered normie, ie: within average range, just low average, anything below that (ie: sub 5) would be below even low average

So height equivalent is LTN = 5'7 ie: low average to low average

In this case Chad is extreme outlier so equivalent to 6'5+

Although it's hard to say though right because I unironically think extreme outlier heights like 6'5-6'8 are more common than extreme outlier PSL God level faces so even that equivalence is conservative but who knows maybe I'm delusional

At those extremes maybe height just becomes way too big of a barrier or height starts taking in properties of it's own and niche appeal starts to work in your favor because some girls might just REALLLLY prioritize/fetishize height

At the same time I have known some HTN-CL guys in the 5'5 range who slay. This is the range of guys like Kai Cenat or Lil Uzi Vert. Not ideal but depending on things like frame/musculature and social circle, you can still pull it off in this range and even do well. That's how I've seen it work out in the cases I'm referring to. The guys are short but aside from that they basically have everything else dialed to the point their height is not the center of attention.

However all else being equal, if both went out to bars every week for a month who would come out on top? It's hard to say

At least we can probably say for sure right now that within the normal range face is superior