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@Xangsane @SecularIslamist Any comments on class-pill and izzat-pill?
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Happens often irl tbh
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i wish i had your level of delusion
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No one cares about class. Historically it was important and the main identities of people were based on it. But now there exists only the super rich and peasants everywhere else.
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When you finally join the upper class:
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Cherry pick exceptions to compare. AVG or median of upper social class will always mog those of lower social class
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Majority of people lack the IQ to even get to social class from lower class position.
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He thinks Chico came from the inner Favelas or something.
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A very high IQ observation.
Just a tiny problem.
From your writings, I get the feeling that you actually believe you can make it into this rich class. Without being born in it.
In aristocratic oligarchies like US, UK, actually the whole fucking planet. You can not make such jump. Especially not by "trading" some made up fucking internet points.
Maybe we just have different definitions of high wealth. Real higher class men don't make lower six figures.They pay that amount to the women they hangout with.
In the area that I live, I know several cases of men who bought houses --yes a literal fucking house-- to girls whom they dated for a mere few weeks.
How can you compete? How can I compete? How can anyone who is not from the rich compete? Especially in this world of rapidly growing inequality.
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Just a tiny problem.
From your writings, I get the feeling that you actually believe you can make it into this rich class. Without being born in it.
In aristocratic oligarchies like US, UK, actually the whole fucking planet. You can not make such jump. Especially not by "trading" some made up fucking internet points.
Maybe we just have different definitions of high wealth. Real higher class men don't make lower six figures.They pay that amount to the women they hangout with.
In the area that I live, I know several cases of men who bought houses --yes a literal fucking house-- to girls whom they dated for a mere few weeks.
How can you compete? How can I compete? How can anyone who is not from the rich compete? Especially in this world of rapidly growing inequality.
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I don't. I think being born into it is 99.9999% of it.
Maybe 100%?
But I'm putting forward the question: If you can elevate your families social class over time or through generations, wouldn't this be more gratifying than simply trying to have "mogger and fogger" kids.
A lot of these threads is just me trying to get others to think.
Trust me, I don't think it's possible to fraud class. But class is more proscriptive than looks.
Weirdly, I think having larger families regardless of social class, increases the chance of you having kin that "ascends" socioeconomically, just due to numbers, chance and the randomness of opportunity.
I don't think things stay the same forever. I'm really interested to see what will unfold in the future. Maybe we'll see some sort of techno aristocracy start to displace traditional class structures.
Looks have been talked about more than enough on the forum.
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As a wise man once said:
"The perfect hell is not a world of fire and brimstone with demons flaying your skin off for eternity, for eventually the pain becomes pleasure through masochism and the torture breaks the mind until meaningful suffering can no longer be inflicted. No, the ideal hell is a world of boring, chronic low-level stress, punctuated by occasional flashes of, love, meaning, and hope to keep to you perpetually unfulfilled and striving against an impossible system that is constantly trying to make your life miserable."
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They seem like low IQ retard simps.
That's no status signal in my eyes. Rich incel who spends his money on a SEA wife? Non monogamous rich guy trying to play life like he's George Clooney or Jack Nicholson? Not admirable imo.
Financial wealth is of course a massive function of "social class". But there are other things I'm focused on. Early childhood years, strong family, private schooling, good social and professional networks, family holidays, no financial insecurity, well paid careers. And most importantly to keep that continuity and have that opportunity there for your kids (the environment, the education, the career, the network, the opportunities, the friend groups)... Obviously all whilst not restricting anyone's autonomy. People are who they are, deep down, and can do what they want.
But I feel like these things are overlooked, by practically everyone here.
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True. Having high self awareness and a strong identity are really vital.
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Good point.
However, my focus is not on how "classy" their behavior is. But rather on how much power they have.
What the fuck is this shit? After a certain point of wealth, you can quite literally buy a woman???
Imagine looking remotely desirable whilst having wealth. I can not even imagine it...
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You can't, that's the whole fucking point.
Money by itself is cope.
It's all about socioeconomic class in the sense that women who grow up in favourable conditions, affluence (I'm not talking hyper rich royal family type shit - just upper class people), better education, higher status jobs, stronger family ties etc will screen for men so hard that they can't just filter by "looks, money, status" at any given moment.
What they will do is find a man who had a very similar upbringing to theirs. Same social scenes, same ethic for studying, similar career paths/fields, similar familial wealth. And only then, are looks considered.
Ask yourself this question? Why are all these super rich trillionaires in Dubai only able to "buy" Russian sluts for short term fun, and can only "buy" south east Asian women for marriage?
Why, with all the money they have, are they still single in their 40s, with money to burn, and cannot marry an private schooled Emma Watson type? It's because of class consciousness. Women of a high social class screen for parity.
Social class is not like a balance sheet: "Okay you have looks, money and status" at 35 but grew up in poverty" STILL SCREENED OUT BY HIGH CLASS HIGH IQ WOMEN
Andrew Tate grew up in poverty. Conor McGregor also. Hyper rich, hyper famous. Still resorting to raping women? How does that make sense?
They are being screened out by the biggest filter: FLUID SOCIAL CLASS.
Do you think Conor McGregor would have to jestermaxx even though he has like $500M in cash if he wasn't raised in a fucked up environment?
This is the continuity factor I'm talking about. The world would be a better place if people had all the opportunities that'd lead their lives away from suffering and towards sustainability. But like you said, inequality exists.
The main point I'm driving home is that while wealth inequality exists, so does class inequality. These are not the exact same.
You can derive someone's class directly by looking at their face.
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The difference is day and night...
Just like how we men compare an educated classy woman with a trashy low class woman.
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Yes exactly.
Even us men fall for class over looks. You'll see it happen in your real life if it hasn't happened yet.
What's happening with middle class underachievers is that some of them are turning hyper liberal, progressive, trans etc...
I think a driver of this is because they feel no belonging to a relative class, and so they decide not to compete in the "traditional" way.
Education really matters. Like it really really matters. By education, I mean graduating university.
Even people who go toward certain degrees hold very similar beliefs and class codes, within their course.
Law school...............
Dance and liberal arts....................
They shape you. But you also are being shaped your entire life to fall into a pedigree somewhere on the spectrum. It's totally tautological.
At the end of the day. We're all human. But, my argument is that "relative class" is just as much of a filter as things like face, height, race, iq.
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- Private property pill
- Leisure activity pill
- Family holiday home pill
- Family holidays during childhood and teenagehood pill
- Neighbourhood pill
- Private schooling pill
- Dad's friends pill
- How you spend your free time pill
- Parent's social class at the time of your conception pill
- Hanging out with the wrong crowd pill
- Your parents were always right with your best interests at heart-pill
These are all brutal. And never talked about.
It's insane how people literally think their life outcomes are the way they are because they haven't had a facial surgery yet.
The coping must come to an end.
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What do you get if you add all of the pills together into one pill?
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You go back to square one, pre red-pill
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Actually this is the true blackpill as you said. No ascension for your filthy social class
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