"Soft Mewing" is cope for adults (The Physics of Hard Mewing)

[cortisolman2]

What’s up guys,
I’ve been seeing a lot of people complaining that they’ve been mewing for 2 years with zero results. I just watched a video (and have been doing some digging into the mechanics) that basically confirms what we’ve suspected: Standard "soft" mewing does almost nothing once your sutures start to fuse.
If you’re over 18, just "resting" your tongue on the roof of your mouth isn't going to move bone. Here is why hard mewing is actually the only way to see midface changes:

1. The Pressure Threshold​

In kids, the maxilla is like play-dough. In adults, it’s like hard clay. To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law (bone remodeling under stress).
The math is simple:

Force = Pressure \times Area

Soft mewing applies maybe lbs of force. That’s enough to keep your teeth from falling inward, but it’s nowhere near enough to cause sutural expansion. Hard mewing (actively driving the posterior third of the tongue into the palate) increases that force by 10x or 20x. Without that specific "overload," your skull has no reason to change.

2. The Posterior Third (The "Hydraulic Press")​

Most people "normal mew" by just touching the tip of their tongue to the ridge. That’s useless. The video I watched (and my own experience) shows that you have to engage the styloglossus muscle.
When you hard mew, the back of your tongue acts like a hydraulic press against the transverse palatine suture. This is the "sweet spot" for forward growth. If you aren't feeling pressure right where your hard palate meets the soft palate, you’re wasting your time.

3. Constant Tension vs. Passive Posture​

The reason hard mewing "works" in these transformation videos is that it creates a constant upward/forward vector.

• Soft Mewing: Is just a posture.
• Hard Mewing: Is a workout for your face.

It’s the difference between standing up straight (posture) and doing heavy squats (remodeling). You need the mechanical load to signal the body to deposit new bone (osteogenesis).

My Take:​

If you aren't literally "sore" in your tongue and palate area after a session, you aren't applying enough force to move bone. Soft mewing is basically just "not mouth-breathing." If you actually want to fix a recessed midface or get that lateral expansion, you have to apply active, conscious pressure.
Warning though: Watch out for asymmetry. If you push harder on the left than the right, you're going to give yourself a slanted maxilla.
What do you guys think? Is soft mewing just a massive cope for anyone post-puberty?


so if you really want to ascend or somewhat fix your reccession stop sucction mewing you need to put pressure into it if your not literly 2 years old or smth if your above 12 to 13 normal mewing wont work and heres and random vid i found on this topic showing proof ig of how hardmewwing can work it owuld probbbly work even better if you are still developing and at the end of the day surgery is always an option

 

[cortisolman2]

bummp ig

 

[lemureater]

ive been doing it for almost a year and ive seen improvements, i literally had a gap between my front 2 teeth form and then close overtime from my palate expanding. It sounds like cope but it actually works

 

[cortisolman2]

ive been doing it for almost a year and ive seen improvements, i literally had a gap between my front 2 teeth form and then close overtime from my palate expanding. It sounds like cope but it actually works

ikr more people should try this and so what your saying hard mewing made a gap in your face ? becuase of palate expansion and did u notice any forward growth maybe decrease inr ecession more support ?

 

[tatesempire2.0@gmai]

atleast the vid isn't oscar patel

 

[cortisolman2]

atleast the vid isn't oscar patel

ye i lwk used to look up to him i used watch him evryday and lookedup to him that niggah promotes mostly cope maybe thumpulling works but i never tryed seriously

 

[cortisolman2]

bump

 

[cortisolman2]

bump

 

[lemureater]

ikr more people should try this and so what your saying hard mewing made a gap in your face ? becuase of palate expansion and did u notice any forward growth maybe decrease inr ecession more support ?

yes 100%, i just checked pics from before and now. There is a difference but im not sure if thats just because my bones have grown in a year or if the hard mewing actually have me noticable difference. My maxilla is still flat though, but there is forward growth ig. My FWHR has also visibly increased.

 

[cortisolman2]

yes 100%, i just checked pics from before and now. There is a difference but im not sure if thats just because my bones have grown in a year or if the hard mewing actually have me noticable difference. My FWHR has also visibly increased.

how old ? and fwhr increase pretty good sign if ur comfortable can u send pics so i can make a more complete thread with all the info

 

[lemureater]

how old ? and fwhr increase pretty good sign if ur comfortable can u send pics so i can make a more complete thread with all the info

the lighting is the exact same, taken from the same chair. But to be clear the second pic is only from 5 months ago so it doesnt show the full progression

 

[cortisolman2]

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the lighting is the exact same, taken from the same chair. But to be clear the second pic is only from 5 months ago so it doesnt show the full progression

which one is the before

 

[lemureater]

the second one is before, but now ur asking ig the difference isnt that noticeable

 

[cortisolman2]

the second one is before, but now ur asking ig the difference isnt that noticeable

no iwas thinikn the first one was after but i got confused after u said the second one is 5 months ago

 

[lemureater]

no iwas thinikn the first one was after but i got confused after u said the second one is 5 months ago

yeh just to clarify, the first pic with longer hair is now and the one with shorter is from 5 months ago

 

[cortisolman2]

the second one is before, but now ur asking ig the difference isnt that noticeable

def ascended the side i noticed ur eye are got deeper which mean u did have forward growth and you eyebrows got lower set for some reason

 

[HumanSpecie]

What’s up guys,
I’ve been seeing a lot of people complaining that they’ve been mewing for 2 years with zero results. I just watched a video (and have been doing some digging into the mechanics) that basically confirms what we’ve suspected: Standard "soft" mewing does almost nothing once your sutures start to fuse.
If you’re over 18, just "resting" your tongue on the roof of your mouth isn't going to move bone. Here is why hard mewing is actually the only way to see midface changes:

1. The Pressure Threshold​

In kids, the maxilla is like play-dough. In adults, it’s like hard clay. To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law (bone remodeling under stress).
The math is simple:

Force = Pressure \times Area

Soft mewing applies maybe lbs of force. That’s enough to keep your teeth from falling inward, but it’s nowhere near enough to cause sutural expansion. Hard mewing (actively driving the posterior third of the tongue into the palate) increases that force by 10x or 20x. Without that specific "overload," your skull has no reason to change.

2. The Posterior Third (The "Hydraulic Press")​

Most people "normal mew" by just touching the tip of their tongue to the ridge. That’s useless. The video I watched (and my own experience) shows that you have to engage the styloglossus muscle.
When you hard mew, the back of your tongue acts like a hydraulic press against the transverse palatine suture. This is the "sweet spot" for forward growth. If you aren't feeling pressure right where your hard palate meets the soft palate, you’re wasting your time.

3. Constant Tension vs. Passive Posture​

The reason hard mewing "works" in these transformation videos is that it creates a constant upward/forward vector.

• Soft Mewing: Is just a posture.
• Hard Mewing: Is a workout for your face.

It’s the difference between standing up straight (posture) and doing heavy squats (remodeling). You need the mechanical load to signal the body to deposit new bone (osteogenesis).

My Take:​

If you aren't literally "sore" in your tongue and palate area after a session, you aren't applying enough force to move bone. Soft mewing is basically just "not mouth-breathing." If you actually want to fix a recessed midface or get that lateral expansion, you have to apply active, conscious pressure.
Warning though: Watch out for asymmetry. If you push harder on the left than the right, you're going to give yourself a slanted maxilla.
What do you guys think? Is soft mewing just a massive cope for anyone post-puberty?


so if you really want to ascend or somewhat fix your reccession stop sucction mewing you need to put pressure into it if your not literly 2 years old or smth if your above 12 to 13 normal mewing wont work and heres and random vid i found on this topic showing proof ig of how hardmewwing can work it owuld probbbly work even better if you are still developing and at the end of the day surgery is always an option

W take But is this gpt?

 

[cortisolman2]

W take But is this gpt?

yes partly gpt i fed it my work and reaseach i just got the it formatted because idk how to format that shi on mobile

 

[HumanSpecie]

yes partly gpt i fed it my work and reaseach i just got the it formatted because idk how to format that shi on mobile

Thats fine lol asking gpt for help then paraphrasing it is totally fine

 

[Quatza33]

What’s up guys,
I’ve been seeing a lot of people complaining that they’ve been mewing for 2 years with zero results. I just watched a video (and have been doing some digging into the mechanics) that basically confirms what we’ve suspected: Standard "soft" mewing does almost nothing once your sutures start to fuse.
If you’re over 18, just "resting" your tongue on the roof of your mouth isn't going to move bone. Here is why hard mewing is actually the only way to see midface changes:

1. The Pressure Threshold​

In kids, the maxilla is like play-dough. In adults, it’s like hard clay. To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law (bone remodeling under stress).
The math is simple:

Force = Pressure \times Area

Soft mewing applies maybe lbs of force. That’s enough to keep your teeth from falling inward, but it’s nowhere near enough to cause sutural expansion. Hard mewing (actively driving the posterior third of the tongue into the palate) increases that force by 10x or 20x. Without that specific "overload," your skull has no reason to change.

2. The Posterior Third (The "Hydraulic Press")​

Most people "normal mew" by just touching the tip of their tongue to the ridge. That’s useless. The video I watched (and my own experience) shows that you have to engage the styloglossus muscle.
When you hard mew, the back of your tongue acts like a hydraulic press against the transverse palatine suture. This is the "sweet spot" for forward growth. If you aren't feeling pressure right where your hard palate meets the soft palate, you’re wasting your time.

3. Constant Tension vs. Passive Posture​

The reason hard mewing "works" in these transformation videos is that it creates a constant upward/forward vector.

• Soft Mewing: Is just a posture.
• Hard Mewing: Is a workout for your face.

It’s the difference between standing up straight (posture) and doing heavy squats (remodeling). You need the mechanical load to signal the body to deposit new bone (osteogenesis).

My Take:​

If you aren't literally "sore" in your tongue and palate area after a session, you aren't applying enough force to move bone. Soft mewing is basically just "not mouth-breathing." If you actually want to fix a recessed midface or get that lateral expansion, you have to apply active, conscious pressure.
Warning though: Watch out for asymmetry. If you push harder on the left than the right, you're going to give yourself a slanted maxilla.
What do you guys think? Is soft mewing just a massive cope for anyone post-puberty?


so if you really want to ascend or somewhat fix your reccession stop sucction mewing you need to put pressure into it if your not literly 2 years old or smth if your above 12 to 13 normal mewing wont work and heres and random vid i found on this topic showing proof ig of how hardmewwing can work it owuld probbbly work even better if you are still developing and at the end of the day surgery is always an option

water, appreciate the effort though

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

What’s up guys,
I’ve been seeing a lot of people complaining that they’ve been mewing for 2 years with zero results. I just watched a video (and have been doing some digging into the mechanics) that basically confirms what we’ve suspected: Standard "soft" mewing does almost nothing once your sutures start to fuse.
If you’re over 18, just "resting" your tongue on the roof of your mouth isn't going to move bone. Here is why hard mewing is actually the only way to see midface changes:

1. The Pressure Threshold​

In kids, the maxilla is like play-dough. In adults, it’s like hard clay. To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law (bone remodeling under stress).
The math is simple:

Force = Pressure \times Area

Soft mewing applies maybe lbs of force. That’s enough to keep your teeth from falling inward, but it’s nowhere near enough to cause sutural expansion. Hard mewing (actively driving the posterior third of the tongue into the palate) increases that force by 10x or 20x. Without that specific "overload," your skull has no reason to change.

2. The Posterior Third (The "Hydraulic Press")​

Most people "normal mew" by just touching the tip of their tongue to the ridge. That’s useless. The video I watched (and my own experience) shows that you have to engage the styloglossus muscle.
When you hard mew, the back of your tongue acts like a hydraulic press against the transverse palatine suture. This is the "sweet spot" for forward growth. If you aren't feeling pressure right where your hard palate meets the soft palate, you’re wasting your time.

3. Constant Tension vs. Passive Posture​

The reason hard mewing "works" in these transformation videos is that it creates a constant upward/forward vector.

• Soft Mewing: Is just a posture.
• Hard Mewing: Is a workout for your face.

It’s the difference between standing up straight (posture) and doing heavy squats (remodeling). You need the mechanical load to signal the body to deposit new bone (osteogenesis).

My Take:​

If you aren't literally "sore" in your tongue and palate area after a session, you aren't applying enough force to move bone. Soft mewing is basically just "not mouth-breathing." If you actually want to fix a recessed midface or get that lateral expansion, you have to apply active, conscious pressure.
Warning though: Watch out for asymmetry. If you push harder on the left than the right, you're going to give yourself a slanted maxilla.
What do you guys think? Is soft mewing just a massive cope for anyone post-puberty?


so if you really want to ascend or somewhat fix your reccession stop sucction mewing you need to put pressure into it if your not literly 2 years old or smth if your above 12 to 13 normal mewing wont work and heres and random vid i found on this topic showing proof ig of how hardmewwing can work it owuld probbbly work even better if you are still developing and at the end of the day surgery is always an option

How can I hard mew if I have an asymmetrical maxilla ?

 

[cortisolman2]

How can I hard mew if I have an asymmetrical maxilla ?

idk niggah ask your mom

 

[iblameocclusalcant]

idk niggah ask your mom

Nice joke cocklicker

 

[ASTRO_YSD]

What’s up guys,
I’ve been seeing a lot of people complaining that they’ve been mewing for 2 years with zero results. I just watched a video (and have been doing some digging into the mechanics) that basically confirms what we’ve suspected: Standard "soft" mewing does almost nothing once your sutures start to fuse.
If you’re over 18, just "resting" your tongue on the roof of your mouth isn't going to move bone. Here is why hard mewing is actually the only way to see midface changes:

1. The Pressure Threshold​

In kids, the maxilla is like play-dough. In adults, it’s like hard clay. To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law (bone remodeling under stress).
The math is simple:

Force = Pressure \times Area

Soft mewing applies maybe lbs of force. That’s enough to keep your teeth from falling inward, but it’s nowhere near enough to cause sutural expansion. Hard mewing (actively driving the posterior third of the tongue into the palate) increases that force by 10x or 20x. Without that specific "overload," your skull has no reason to change.

2. The Posterior Third (The "Hydraulic Press")​

Most people "normal mew" by just touching the tip of their tongue to the ridge. That’s useless. The video I watched (and my own experience) shows that you have to engage the styloglossus muscle.
When you hard mew, the back of your tongue acts like a hydraulic press against the transverse palatine suture. This is the "sweet spot" for forward growth. If you aren't feeling pressure right where your hard palate meets the soft palate, you’re wasting your time.

3. Constant Tension vs. Passive Posture​

The reason hard mewing "works" in these transformation videos is that it creates a constant upward/forward vector.

• Soft Mewing: Is just a posture.
• Hard Mewing: Is a workout for your face.

It’s the difference between standing up straight (posture) and doing heavy squats (remodeling). You need the mechanical load to signal the body to deposit new bone (osteogenesis).

My Take:​

If you aren't literally "sore" in your tongue and palate area after a session, you aren't applying enough force to move bone. Soft mewing is basically just "not mouth-breathing." If you actually want to fix a recessed midface or get that lateral expansion, you have to apply active, conscious pressure.
Warning though: Watch out for asymmetry. If you push harder on the left than the right, you're going to give yourself a slanted maxilla.
What do you guys think? Is soft mewing just a massive cope for anyone post-puberty?


so if you really want to ascend or somewhat fix your reccession stop sucction mewing you need to put pressure into it if your not literly 2 years old or smth if your above 12 to 13 normal mewing wont work and heres and random vid i found on this topic showing proof ig of how hardmewwing can work it owuld probbbly work even better if you are still developing and at the end of the day surgery is always an option

Your right though actually from age of 19 it don't work actually

 

[summ3rty]

mirin

 

[cortisolman2]

Your right though actually from age of 19 it don't work actually

if you look at the vidoe i provided that guy is 23 and he got thos results in 8 months

 

[ASTRO_YSD]

I

if you look at the vidoe i provided that guy is 23 and he got thos results in 8 months

Didn't looked at the video bc net was slow

 

[dr.iibuprofen]

What’s up guys,
I’ve been seeing a lot of people complaining that they’ve been mewing for 2 years with zero results. I just watched a video (and have been doing some digging into the mechanics) that basically confirms what we’ve suspected: Standard "soft" mewing does almost nothing once your sutures start to fuse.
If you’re over 18, just "resting" your tongue on the roof of your mouth isn't going to move bone. Here is why hard mewing is actually the only way to see midface changes:

1. The Pressure Threshold​

In kids, the maxilla is like play-dough. In adults, it’s like hard clay. To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law (bone remodeling under stress).
The math is simple:

Force = Pressure \times Area

Soft mewing applies maybe lbs of force. That’s enough to keep your teeth from falling inward, but it’s nowhere near enough to cause sutural expansion. Hard mewing (actively driving the posterior third of the tongue into the palate) increases that force by 10x or 20x. Without that specific "overload," your skull has no reason to change.

2. The Posterior Third (The "Hydraulic Press")​

Most people "normal mew" by just touching the tip of their tongue to the ridge. That’s useless. The video I watched (and my own experience) shows that you have to engage the styloglossus muscle.
When you hard mew, the back of your tongue acts like a hydraulic press against the transverse palatine suture. This is the "sweet spot" for forward growth. If you aren't feeling pressure right where your hard palate meets the soft palate, you’re wasting your time.

3. Constant Tension vs. Passive Posture​

The reason hard mewing "works" in these transformation videos is that it creates a constant upward/forward vector.

• Soft Mewing: Is just a posture.
• Hard Mewing: Is a workout for your face.

It’s the difference between standing up straight (posture) and doing heavy squats (remodeling). You need the mechanical load to signal the body to deposit new bone (osteogenesis).

My Take:​

If you aren't literally "sore" in your tongue and palate area after a session, you aren't applying enough force to move bone. Soft mewing is basically just "not mouth-breathing." If you actually want to fix a recessed midface or get that lateral expansion, you have to apply active, conscious pressure.
Warning though: Watch out for asymmetry. If you push harder on the left than the right, you're going to give yourself a slanted maxilla.
What do you guys think? Is soft mewing just a massive cope for anyone post-puberty?


so if you really want to ascend or somewhat fix your reccession stop sucction mewing you need to put pressure into it if your not literly 2 years old or smth if your above 12 to 13 normal mewing wont work and heres and random vid i found on this topic showing proof ig of how hardmewwing can work it owuld probbbly work even better if you are still developing and at the end of the day surgery is always an option

What routine should one follow through with this, or just straight 24 hour sessions as much as u can

 

[cortisolman2]

What routine should one follow through with this, or just straight 24 hour sessions as much as u can

just spam as much as you can honestly hardmew 24 hours a day or atleast as long as your awake if your older than 10 or smth normal mewing wont work just mew with pressure aplied that the only thing that works

 

[MindOfBeni]

just get a lefort

 

[Plushie]

To change the shape of the maxilla, you have to trigger Wolff’s Law

Oh my fucking god

 

[murlikalo]

cope, hope on chemicals, earn money, eat not bullshit food and get your hardmaxx

 

[cortisolman2]

Oh my fucking god

mb its mechanotransduction whcih cause your cell to send signal to your bones to remodel

 

[cortisolman2]

m

just get a lefort

money?

 

[cortisolman2]

just get a lefort

just saying to stop mewing and hard mewinstead its not a solution its just a alternative if it works and gives you gains good for you betetr than sitting around doing nothind isnt it?

 

[Plushie]

mb its mechanotransduction whcih cause your cell to send signal to your bones to remodel

Did chatgpt change it's opinion?

Your palate fuses around the age of 18, where no changes through force alone will do anything. Before that orthodontic appliances like palate expanders (not your fucking tongue which obviously can't generate sufficient force for any bone remodeling to occur past the age of like 6) can expand your palate sufficiently. After the age of 18 you need a MARPE since the bones are already fuzed.

God these retarded newgens piss me off

 

[cortisolman2]

Did chatgpt change it's opinion?

Your palate fuses around the age of 18, where no changes through force alone will do anything. Before that orthodontic appliances like palate expanders (not your fucking tongue which obviously can't generate sufficient force for any bone remodeling to occur past the age of like 6) can expand your palate sufficiently. After the age of 18 you need a MARPE since the bones are already fuzed.

God these retarded newgens piss me off

not chatgpt its all made and reasearched by me

 

[cortisolman2]

Did chatgpt change it's opinion?

Your palate fuses around the age of 18, where no changes through force alone will do anything. Before that orthodontic appliances like palate expanders (not your fucking tongue which obviously can't generate sufficient force for any bone remodeling to occur past the age of like 6) can expand your palate sufficiently. After the age of 18 you need a MARPE since the bones are already fuzed.

God these retarded newgens piss me off

works didnt you see the vid which i attached

 

[Plushie]

works didnt you see the vid which i attached

 

[dr.iibuprofen]

just spam as much as you can honestly hardmew 24 hours a day or atleast as long as your awake if your older than 10 or smth normal mewing wont work just mew with pressure aplied that the only thing that works

Alr appreciate it