some guys just stay incel forever

i fit this criteria
 
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Some guys far below my looks level get relationships no problem,
they are better looking. how do you know they are below your looks level?
 
they are better looking. how do you know they are below your looks level?
By looking at them ofc. Many such cases where they are CLEARLY BELOW my looks level and height yet got girls. I knew a guy who was morbidly obese, ugly, and shorter than me who had a fiancé and a gold friend group

Looks is a major factor but there's definitely other factors like luck and how NT you are for sure
 
So you can't tell if a man is better or worse looking than you when interacting face to face irl? Come on buddy, almost everyone can instantly tell if someone they see irl is better looking, worse looking, or on the same looks level as them the second you meet
 
women decide how good you look
You can also objectively compare your own looks level to that of other men and make an accurate assessment. Just because an ugly 300 pound guy has a girlfriend and I don’t does not mean he's better looking lmfao. In cases like those he just had better luck and is most likely more NT as well
 
You can also objectively compare your own looks level to that of other men and make an accurate assessment
no buddy you cant. as i said, women are the choosers/raters

Just because an ugly 300 pound guy has a girlfriend and I don’t does not mean he's better looking lmfa
yes he is better looking. have you consdered that maybe he would mog you if he lost weight? wpmen prefer a looksminned normal guy than a tryhard incel
 
no buddy you cant. as i said, women are the choosers/raters
You must be trolling :feelskek:. Anyone with eyes and a reasoning mind can objectively compare their looks to others and determine where they stand
yes he is better looking. have you consdered that maybe he would mog you if he lost weight? wpmen prefer a looksminned normal guy than a tryhard incel
Trust me, this guy would at best be on my same looks level with weight loss, but almost certainly be below it. If I posted a pic of him here without any context everyone would be screaming it's over for him and that he's an absolute truecel. But, some of these guys just got lucky who otherwise would be incel. It also helps them that they have big social circles and rarely spend time isolated. Most incels almost completely lack social lives entirely, and it is one of the major factors that makes them incel
 
Anyone with eyes and a reasoning mind can objectively compare their looks to others and determine where they stand
you can compared all you want. if she chooses someone else over you it means he MOGS you

e, this guy would at best be on my same looks level with weight loss, but almost certainly be below it.
sounds like he is close to you then

If I posted a pic of him here without any context everyone would be screaming it's over for him and that he's an absolute truecel.
this forum cant rate for shit

It also helps them that they have big social circles and rarely spend time isolated
they do so because they look normal. good luck having a social circle when you are sub 5
 
you can compared all you want. if she chooses someone else over you it means he MOGS you
Not in all cases.
sounds like he is close to you then


this forum cant rate for shit


they do so because they look normal. good luck having a social circle when you are sub 5
Lol I look far more normal than the 300 pound blobs I was referring to here
 
i came, i tried, i failed
 
cope


how do you know that? they get laid and you dont at the end of the day
I have eyes lol, in cases like these it's quite obvious instantly looking at them that they are far below my looks level. Not rocket science, and them getting laid while I don't just proves it's not all looks that determines your success. Lots of these dudes would be bonafide incels had they not been blessed with a hyper normie brain that does well socially and gotten oddly lucky enough to find a woman that accepted them as they are

Also worth mentioning that the guy in this example is with a below average woman who's on his looks level, and I'd have a rough time settling for a woman like that because I'd feel like I'm selling myself short and not be attracted to her that much. I'd probably pump and dump such a woman, but doubt I'd want a long term relationship with her
 
I have eyes lol, in cases like these it's quite obvious instantly looking at them that they are far below my looks level.
women and men perceive looks completely differently

them getting laid while I don't just proves it's not all looks that determines your success.
wrong. it proves they are better looking

not been blessed with a hyper normie brain
no such thing such as hyper nomie brain

s with a below average woman who's on his looks level,
then why do you care???
 
I remember you. You were that Greek guy studying physics ? Forgot your old account
 
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I remember you. You were that Greek guy studying physics ? Forgot your old account
its only till recently though that i attained a basic understanding of the dating world
 
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its only till recently though that i attained a basic understanding of the dating world
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