some pics before surgery

[Retatan]

doctor pics what is should look like before and after

Side profile

decent lighting front profile before Rhino

another random fp pic

I know i have to work on my maxilla as its very mid rn so the only thing i know of doing is ccw rotation which i do 2 exercises for usually in the shower and i use to do neck curls over my bed every other night but i have not done it recently because of the surgery/just being lazy.
I also use to bone smash but rn i just bs on my chin because i dont think its a good idea to bs my zygos and orbital eye area because i dont wanna mess up my nose.
also im 18 5'9 and dont think my growth plates are fully closed because i grew a little more than half an inch when i did my 40 pound bulk so and advise on how to grow would be appreciated

 

[jsmogu]

what surgery

 

[Retatan]

what surgery

i got a nose job

 

[Retatan]

what surgery

i had a hole in my septum so i could barely breath when i workout but also i wanted to have a straightor nose i should have mentioned that

 

[jsmogu]

i had a hole in my septum so i could barely breath when i workout but also i wanted to have a straightor nose i should have mentioned that

bro u need a bsso in stead

 

[Retatan]

bro u need a bsso in stead

yea one of my problems is my assemetry because i havent been able to chew on my left side sinve freshmen year hs so about 4 years ago. the dentist fucked my up and ive tried going to another ortho and they could never fix it. but if i get it fixed i think i can correct my symetry by chewing on that side and sleeping correctly with good posture. not sure if its a bone thing.

 

[jsmogu]

yea one of my problems is my assemetry because i havent been able to chew on my left side sinve freshmen year hs so about 4 years ago. the dentist fucked my up and ive tried going to another ortho and they could never fix it. but if i get it fixed i think i can correct my symetry by chewing on that side and sleeping correctly with good posture. not sure if its a bone thing.

i went to ortho today i have a similar jaw as u and i most likely have deviated nose septum thing i am 16 n half the ortho told me theres no way to bring my lower jaw foward cuz i have a recessed mandible and a class 2 malclsuion with overjet he said no to herbest and no to anything besides js invaslign in a carrier appliance which only shifts my teeth i have struggle breathin at night cuz i feel like my airway is blocked idk waht to do either r

 

[Retatan]

i went to ortho today i have a similar jaw as u and i most likely have deviated nose septum thing i am 16 n half the ortho told me theres no way to bring my lower jaw foward cuz i have a recessed mandible and a class 2 malclsuion with overjet he said no to herbest and no to anything besides js invaslign in a carrier appliance which only shifts my teeth i have struggle breathin at night cuz i feel like my airway is blocked idk waht to do either r

just dont give up its literally never over theres always something you can do to help even if you dont know what it is just yet

 

[jsmogu]

just dont give up its literally never over theres always something you can do to help even if you dont know what it is just yet

ty for these words man honestly i was broken when he told me we cant bring it foward and growth is over

 

[Retatan]

ty for these words man honestly i was broken when he told me we cant bring it foward and growth is over

it could be bc you are not 18 thats what they told me for my nose. I got it broken in 7th grade and they did what they could but i still had the hole and i had that bump, and they said they cant do a rhynoplasty or anything until im 18 because my face is still growing

 

[Retatan]

ty for these words man honestly i was broken when he told me we cant bring it foward and growth is over

not for sure but if im using the doctors logic your jaw and other bones could still grow or change so thats why they said no and you might have to wait until your 18. and it seems like you may be able to get insurance to pay for it

 

[jsmogu]

not for sure but if im using the doctors logic your jaw and other bones could still grow or change so thats why they said no and you might have to wait until your 18. and it seems like you may be able to get insurance to pay for it

he wasnt a airway ortho im going to airway one next i feel like he js tried to scam me