Someone defend Primo/Mast

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Is it worth it? Will it really ruin your elastin (and after how long/how much)?
What to offset negative sides? GHK-CU? Dust?

Someone who is good at DHT-derivatives save me!!! my family is dying.
 
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Why would you like to run primo or mast?
Any specific reason?
 
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Why would you like to run primo or mast?
Any specific reason?
Ran it once at 300 and I looked crazy. Still have some of the veins. Thinking of running again but consensus here seems to be the veins and dry look is just from it vaporizing the elastin in your skin to press firmer on the muscle, so you'll end up aging like shit. I also think it gave me the first line I've ever had in my face but that might be conjecture.

I want something drying alongisde the test to help offset the bloat.
 
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Ran it once at 300 and I looked crazy. Still have some of the veins. Thinking of running again but consensus here seems to be the veins and dry look is just from it vaporizing the elastin in your skin to press firmer on the muscle, so you'll end up aging like shit. I also think it gave me the first line I've ever had in my face but that might be conjecture.

I want something drying alongisde the test to help offset the bloat.
Mast will age you yeah, only in higher doses and for longer time.
Will also fuck up your hairline if you're unlucky.

Ever thought about stanozolol/winstrol?
 
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Mast will age you yeah, only in higher doses and for longer time.
Will also fuck up your hairline if you're unlucky.

Ever thought about stanozolol/winstrol?
No, I've got a shit ton of spare Var and Halo (the halo was free) lying around so was thinking of doing those first for orals
 
No, I've got a shit ton of spare Var and Halo (the halo was free) lying around so was thinking of doing those first for orals
Yeah honestly like 30mg var a day should work nicely.
I took winstrol for ab a month at it was great. dry, lean and strength gains.
 
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Mast will age you yeah, only in higher doses and for longer time.
Will also fuck up your hairline if you're unlucky.

Ever thought about stanozolol/winstrol?
"hey, masteron is harsh, ever thought about another harsh dht derivative that will also fuck up your hairline and age you?" JFL

OP, primo is good, very clean, as you probably already know. Never touch mast.
 
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"hey, masteron is harsh, ever thought about another harsh dht derivative that will also fuck up your hairline and age you?" JFL
:feelsgood::feelsgood:
 
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Primo is one of the shitiest compounds ever
 
fight back bro. everyone disagreeing with you
Any DHT derivative is less hair-safe because you need to use a topical anti-androgen to combat MAA instead of being able to rely on a 5ARi.

Primo is an renowned for being an objectively clean compound to run though, it’s much milder than Mast.

With that being said, would I run either of them? No. But that’s because my goals don’t align with its use case.
 
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Any DHT derivative is less hair-safe because you need to use a topical anti-androgen to combat MAA instead of being able to rely on a 5ARi.

Primo is an renowned for being an objectively clean compound to run though, it’s much milder than Mast.

With that being said, would I run either of them? No. But that’s because my goals don’t align with its use case.
thanks! what are your goals/what works well for them?
yeah was thinking of applying fin/min/dust topical oil to scalp on cycle just to be safe
 
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thanks! what are your goals/what works well for them?
yeah was thinking of applying fin/min/dust topical oil to scalp on cycle just to be safe
Topical 5ARis will not help against a DHT derivative.
 
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Topical 5ARis will not help against a DHT derivative.
well fuck me. not taking dust. too many boner horror stories
 
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"hey, masteron is harsh, ever thought about another harsh dht derivative that will also fuck up your hairline and age you?" JFL

OP, primo is good, very clean, as you probably already know. Never touch mast.
Derivative vs analogue
 
Derivative vs analogue
They are both DHT derivatives, and your point is irrelevant to my claims, regardless.
Fucking retard :lul:
How do people like you, unprompted, just say incorrect shit? I'll never understand.
 
They are both DHT derivatives, and your point is irrelevant to my claims, regardless.
Fucking retard :lul:
How do people like you, unprompted, just say incorrect shit? I'll never understand.
You’re oversimplifying. A derivative doesn’t automatically mean it will be i dentical in effect. Mast and stanozolol both descend from DHT obviouslybut their structural modifications make their activity profiles fundamentally different because they have different anabolic:androgenic ratios, receptor affinity, metabolism, and tissue selectivity. That’s why one can cause more collagen depletion and skin aging (like Winstrol) while the other presents with milder connective tissue or neurological sides. Grouping them both as “harsh DHTs” ignores basic pharmacology. Stupid nigger
 
They are both DHT derivatives, and your point is irrelevant to my claims, regardless.
Fucking retard :lul:
How do people like you, unprompted, just say incorrect shit? I'll never understand.
And they aren’t both derivatives you stupid fuck. Mast is obviously 2α-methyl-DHT- dihydrotestosterone but Stanozolol It’s a synthetic heterocyclic analog of DHT - a pyrazol group fused onto the A-ring of the DHT skeleton. That fusion completely alters its receptor interaction profile, hepatic metabolism, and downstream effects (e.g. collagen synthesis suppression, hepatotoxicity, etc) and makes it an analog and not a derivative. Take the IQ pill
 
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And they aren’t both derivatives you stupid fuck. Mast is obviously 2α-methyl-DHT- dihydrotestosterone but Stanozolol It’s a synthetic heterocyclic analog of DHT - a pyrazol group fused onto the A-ring of the DHT skeleton. That fusion completely alters its receptor interaction profile, hepatic metabolism, and downstream effects (e.g. collagen synthesis suppression, hepatotoxicity, etc) and makes it an analog and not a derivative. Take the IQ pill
so back to my question, is there anything you like about primo or think it uniquely offers other than clean labs?
 
You’re oversimplifying. A derivative doesn’t automatically mean it will be i dentical in effect. Mast and stanozolol both descend from DHT obviouslybut their structural modifications make their activity profiles fundamentally different because they have different anabolic:androgenic ratios, receptor affinity, metabolism, and tissue selectivity. That’s why one can cause more collagen depletion and skin aging (like Winstrol) while the other presents with milder connective tissue or neurological sides. Grouping them both as “harsh DHTs” ignores basic pharmacology. Stupid nigger
And they aren’t both derivatives you stupid fuck. Mast is obviously 2α-methyl-DHT- dihydrotestosterone but Stanozolol It’s a synthetic heterocyclic analog of DHT - a pyrazol group fused onto the A-ring of the DHT skeleton. That fusion completely alters its receptor interaction profile, hepatic metabolism, and downstream effects (e.g. collagen synthesis suppression, hepatotoxicity, etc) and makes it an analog and not a derivative. Take the IQ pill
“hello i can use AI and still get it wrong” Retard. JFL
 
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“hello i can use AI and still get it wrong” Retard. JFL

It’s not AI you just can’t disprove it, IQ pill is most brutal
 
It’s not AI you just can’t disprove it, IQ pill is most brutal
The language conventions are identical to that of somebody who has regurgitated information provided by AI.
I can go back and forth with you all day, but at the end of the day, you used AI, and you're still wrong, JFL "IQ pill is most brutal" - it is because I have a high IQ that I can recognise these patterns and I know for a fact you used AI. You're a fucking brainlet cunt :lul:
 
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The language conventions are identical to that of somebody who has regurgitated information provided by AI.
I can go back and forth with you all day, but at the end of the day, you used AI, and you're still wrong, JFL "IQ pill is most brutal" - it is because I have a high IQ that I can recognise these patterns and I know for a fact you used AI. You're a fucking brainlet cunt :lul:
It’s not AI you just can’t disprove it, IQ pill is most brutal
IMG 4137
 
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favorite test to primo ratio? like a 400:400? 200:400? 500:400? xxx
With that being said, would I run either of them? No. But that’s because my goals don’t align with its use case.
I haven't taken Primo, how much you take depends on how much you aromatise naturally.
See what ratio works for you.
 
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Primo>mast but neither are great imo,use ru58841 with them tho if youre gonna run it
 
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Nobody knows shit apparently. Primo is the best steroid you could ever find looksmaxxing-wise but it's expensive af.
Mast is shit, say goodbye to your skin and hair
 
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Nobody knows shit apparently. Primo is the best steroid you could ever find looksmaxxing-wise but it's expensive af.
Mast is shit, say goodbye to your skin and hair
i use primo at 15 is that okay
 
i use primo at 15 is that okay
definitely not and you still need test alongside and bloodwork. Just take hgh and AI and train natty with a strength program at that age
 
definitely not and you still need test alongside and bloodwork. Just take hgh and AI and train natty with a strength program at that age
dad said no to both, he put me on EQ instead of ai
 
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im stacking test, EQ and primo
 
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Nobody knows shit apparently. Primo is the best steroid you could ever find looksmaxxing-wise but it's expensive af.
Mast is shit, say goodbye to your skin and hair
cycle?
 

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