Soy protein, good or bad?

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Can I gym-maxx and get muscle growth with this shit?
 
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Think about it like this.
You get a a hybrid car and save money (chicken)
You can get a diesel to be cool (eggs and steak)

or get petrol and lose both ways (soy).
So why would you ever get petrol?
 
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asdvek said:
Phytoestrogens, phytates, anti nutrients
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Phytoestrogens aren't bad and positively influence muscle mass and strength and the anti nutrients bullshit is negligible

I'm not saying it's great for you, but people act like if you take it you'll turn into a woman or something :lul:
 
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asdvek said:
They are plant version of xenoestrogens. Literally mimicks estrogen.
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estrogen is very anabolic to muscle tissue especially when there is other testosterone present

it's an extremely vital hormone to have
 
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Well it's not optimal in any way as plant proteins usually lack amino acids that are required for muscle building
 
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vevcred2_0 said:
estrogen is very anabolic to muscle tissue especially when there is other testosterone present

it's an extremely vital hormone to have
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I never said estrogen is bad.

Estrogen is good. Real estrogen. Which is in animal foods only.

Xenoestrogens/phytoestrogens on the other hand are plant estrogens and have no benefits and will mess you up.
 
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vevcred2_0 said:
It really isn't as bad as people like to say

Still just eat eggs instead or something lol
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Exactly. Like sure eating soy protein isn't the best but it's way better than not eating anything :lul:
 
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asdvek said:
I never said estrogen is bad.

Estrogen is good. Real estrogen. Which is in animal foods only.

Xenoestrogens/phytoestrogens on the other hand are plant estrogens and have no benefits and will mess you up.
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Phytoestrogens won't really do anything
 
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asdvek said:
Xenoestrogens/phytoestrogens on the other hand are plant estrogens and have no benefits and will mess you up.
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There is practically no difference between phytoestrogens and normal estrogens besides the fact the phytoestrogens are far less potent lol

they both bind to the same estrogen receptor and I don't see how phytoestrogens would mess you up
 
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RecessedCels said:
Exactly. Like sure eating soy protein isn't the best but it's way better than not eating anything :lul:
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Yeah it really isn't bad, obviously there are better sources but it won't turn you into a woman or anything like people think lol
 
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vevcred2_0 said:
There is practically no difference between phytoestrogens and normal estrogens besides the fact the phytoestrogens are far less potent lol

they both bind to the same estrogen receptor and I don't see how phytoestrogens would mess you up
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Herbs containing phytoestrogen or ginseng with estrogen-like structure (46) may also lead to gynecomastia.
 
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Herbs containing phytoestrogen or ginseng with estrogen-like structure (46) may also lead to gynecomastia.
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so gyno is the only side effect? and it's just theorized too
 
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Plant protein isn't as bioavailable as animal protein because it has a suboptimal distribution of amino acids, since plant cells just use different shit than animal cells. For every gram of animal protein, you'd have to eat something around 2 grams of plant protein to get the same nutrition. Don't quote me on that exact number, tho.
 
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