Start treatment now with Ramieir or wait another month for a consult with Alfaro ?

[one job away]

Idk guys

 

[Silver]

It's all up to you, if you're happy with what you discussed with the first-mentioned surgeon then proceed. If you want a 2nd opinion then wait 'til you've talked with the latter mentioned surgeon. The latter one is very good for SFS & sleep apnea. Provides mogger mandible advancements and does subspinal LF1.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

It's all up to you, if you're happy with what you discussed with the first-mentioned surgeon then proceed. If you want a 2nd opinion then wait 'til you've talked with the latter mentioned surgeon. The latter one is very good for SFS & sleep apnea. Provides mogger mandible advancements and does subspinal LF1.

is alfaro really better? what does he charge for jaw advancement surgery? (just a ballpark number is fine)

 

[Silver]

is alfaro really better? what does he charge for jaw advancement surgery? (just a ballpark number is fine)

All surgeons have their one area that they "specialize" in, it's what they were taught during their training. You can identify a surgeons "speciality" yourself or you can ask them and have them confirm it. For Alfaro it's what I mentioned, his best results are for patients with SFS and those who need large mandible advancements. Other surgeons beat him in other areas of orthognathic surgery.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

All surgeons have their one area that they "specialize" in, it's what they were taught during their training. You can identify a surgeons "speciality" yourself or you can ask them and have them confirm it. For Alfaro it's what I mentioned, his best results are for patients with SFS and those who need large mandible advancements. Other surgeons beat him in other areas of orthognathic surgery.

nice, how much he charge tho?

 

[one job away]

nice, how much he charge tho?

30-40k Nowadays

 

[sergeant blackpill]

30-40k Nowadays

damn u kidding me it would take me years to save up for that

 

[dough]

All surgeons have their one area that they "specialize" in, it's what they were taught during their training. You can identify a surgeons "speciality" yourself or you can ask them and have them confirm it. For Alfaro it's what I mentioned, his best results are for patients with SFS and those who need large mandible advancements. Other surgeons beat him in other areas of orthognathic surgery.

what's raffainis specialty?

 

[Silver]

what's raffainis specialty?

females. his soft tissue work is the best out of any OMFS in the world. his student, Pary, is on par with him.

 

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females. his soft tissue work is the best out of any OMFS in the world. his student, Pary, is on par with him.

how much does raffaini charge? i feel like w alfaro and other expensive surgeons it's kind of pointless to save up and wait until you're a greycel when there are other better and cheaper options that have less marketing/are unknown

 

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Idk guys

op what did ramieri say? did you like his treatment plan and are the movements blackpilled?

 

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op what did ramieri say? did you like his treatment plan and are the movements blackpilled?

In theory yes. Maybe 1-2 mm more pog would be nice so I’m safe against soft tissue stretching making the advancement seem less than it is.

 

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In theory yes. Maybe 1-2 mm more pog would be nice so I’m safe against soft tissue stretching making the advancement seem less than it is.

sorry but what's pog? how much total advancement is he planning for the maxilla and mandible?

 

[one job away]

sorry but what's pog? how much total advancement is he planning for the maxilla and mandible?

Fck it im going with R. Decision paralysis is for pussys.


Pog is pogonion.


He didn’t make the movements clear but he said around 8.6mm pogonion. Some ccw rotation. And as little maxilla as possible. no genio as my chin is strong already. That’s his plan atleast. But I will need braces first. He sees the most potential there.

 

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Fck it im going with R. Decision paralysis is for pussys.


Pog is pogonion.


He didn’t make the movements clear but he said around 8.6mm pogonion. Some ccw rotation. And as little maxilla as possible. no genio as my chin is strong already. That’s his plan atleast. But I will need braces first. He sees the most potential there.

sounds pretty good. how long will you have to wait until surgery? and did you per chance ask him about implants? i have somewhat weak undereye support so i think that would be beneficial for me to get. idk if maxilla movement helps with that a lot

 

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Ramieri gets mogged brutally in this case