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I turned 17 in september and am thinking of starting hgh and test obviously will precautions and all that. Just wanted any tips or help anyone can give im from the uk i have somewhere i think i can get them but any suggestions will be appreciated. I have done all sorts of peptides before and realised majority are cope so i am looking for some guidance. Thanks
 
I’m thinking almost the same, though I will be turning 16 in January, thinking test only, then maybe add tren with megestrol and what not. Maybe some more things but haven’t quite decided yet
 
I’m thinking almost the same, though I will be turning 16 in January, thinking test only, then maybe add tren with megestrol and what not. Maybe some more things but haven’t quite decided yet
u from uk? have u found any good sources ive found some underground labs but they are overpriced af like over a quid per iu of hgh
 
I turned 17 in september and am thinking of starting hgh and test obviously will precautions and all that. Just wanted any tips or help anyone can give im from the uk i have somewhere i think i can get them but any suggestions will be appreciated. I have done all sorts of peptides before and realised majority are cope so i am looking for some guidance. Thanks
At your age, assuming your growth plates are even open, test by itself is a big no-no. Why?
Simply put, it'll accelerate your growth plate closure by converting to estrogen (aromatization)

You can avoid this by pairing the test with an AI (aromatase inhibitor), preferably Arimidex, to keep estrogen low → slower plate fusion.

GET YOUR BLOODWORK DONE FIRST (Baseline: total/free test, E2, IGF-1) THIS IS THE BARE BARE BARE VERY BARE MINIMUM BLOODWORK YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING

Start with a low-moderate test dose (200–300 mg/week (split into 2 injections, most people do Monday/Thursday, of test enanthate or cypionate.

Arimidex - start at 0.25 mg EOD from day 1, then adjust after first bloods at week 4–6.
Adjusting accordingly is the most important part if you want to avoid issues. Ideally, you want to aim for 15–25 pg/mL too low/high, then you're cooking yourself. Increase or decrease in 0.5 or 1mg steps based on E2.

4-8 IU depending on your goals
Adjust IUs accordingly in increments of 1-2 IUs to reach the desired IGF1 level of your goal.

Other shit (if you want more support):
HCG - Prevents/reduces testicular shutdown, easier 'PCT' heh... /recovery. For fertility, if you don't give a shit about having kids or having smaller balls, it's not needed.
NAC or any other antioxidant support (avoid alcohol, duh)

There's a lot of additional stuff you can do, but I'm lazy, and there's plenty of other threads. Understand the science and do your own research.


There's a lot more you should do and know, like how to PCT/ hop off, but I'm too lazy.
Ask questions. Rep me. :p
 
At your age, assuming your growth plates are even open, test by itself is a big no-no. Why?
Simply put, it'll accelerate your growth plate closure by converting to estrogen (aromatization)

You can avoid this by pairing the test with an AI (aromatase inhibitor), preferably Arimidex, to keep estrogen low → slower plate fusion.

GET YOUR BLOODWORK DONE FIRST (Baseline: total/free test, E2, IGF-1) THIS IS THE BARE BARE BARE VERY BARE MINIMUM BLOODWORK YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING

Start with a low-moderate test dose (200–300 mg/week (split into 2 injections, most people do Monday/Thursday, of test enanthate or cypionate.

Arimidex - start at 0.25 mg EOD from day 1, then adjust after first bloods at week 4–6.
Adjusting accordingly is the most important part if you want to avoid issues. Ideally, you want to aim for 15–25 pg/mL too low/high, then you're cooking yourself. Increase or decrease in 0.5 or 1mg steps based on E2.

4-8 IU depending on your goals
Adjust IUs accordingly in increments of 1-2 IUs to reach the desired IGF1 level of your goal.

Other shit (if you want more support):
HCG - Prevents/reduces testicular shutdown, easier 'PCT' heh... /recovery. For fertility, if you don't give a shit about having kids or having smaller balls, it's not needed.
NAC or any other antioxidant support (avoid alcohol, duh)

There's a lot of additional stuff you can do, but I'm lazy, and there's plenty of other threads. Understand the science and do your own research.


There's a lot more you should do and know, like how to PCT/ hop off, but I'm too lazy.
Ask questions. Rep me. :p
imma pm you about hgh
 
At your age, assuming your growth plates are even open, test by itself is a big no-no. Why?
Simply put, it'll accelerate your growth plate closure by converting to estrogen (aromatization)

You can avoid this by pairing the test with an AI (aromatase inhibitor), preferably Arimidex, to keep estrogen low → slower plate fusion.

GET YOUR BLOODWORK DONE FIRST (Baseline: total/free test, E2, IGF-1) THIS IS THE BARE BARE BARE VERY BARE MINIMUM BLOODWORK YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING

Start with a low-moderate test dose (200–300 mg/week (split into 2 injections, most people do Monday/Thursday, of test enanthate or cypionate.

Arimidex - start at 0.25 mg EOD from day 1, then adjust after first bloods at week 4–6.
Adjusting accordingly is the most important part if you want to avoid issues. Ideally, you want to aim for 15–25 pg/mL too low/high, then you're cooking yourself. Increase or decrease in 0.5 or 1mg steps based on E2.

4-8 IU depending on your goals
Adjust IUs accordingly in increments of 1-2 IUs to reach the desired IGF1 level of your goal.

Other shit (if you want more support):
HCG - Prevents/reduces testicular shutdown, easier 'PCT' heh... /recovery. For fertility, if you don't give a shit about having kids or having smaller balls, it's not needed.
NAC or any other antioxidant support (avoid alcohol, duh)

There's a lot of additional stuff you can do, but I'm lazy, and there's plenty of other threads. Understand the science and do your own research.


There's a lot more you should do and know, like how to PCT/ hop off, but I'm too lazy.
Ask questions. Rep me. :p
that’s my bad i didn’t include the ai and pct but i am getting both i am going to use hcg as my pct because i cant find any enclomiphene anywhere.

I fractured my wrist a couple months ago and got an xray and my growth plates were in the process of fusing. But i’m not really using it for height as i’m already 6’5 it was more for facial bone growth do you have any advice on how i can adjust it for that
 
I fractured my wrist a couple months ago and got an xray and my growth plates were in the process of fusing. But i’m not really using it for height as i’m already 6’5 it was more for facial bone growth do you have any advice on how i can adjust it for that
I've talked about this before; I'll paste it here.

Chances are your nose and ears are just gonna get big as shit if you blast HGH for facial growth, bones might grow, but it's just not worth.
You'd have to blast 10+ IU for years non-stop, look at bodybuilders that blasted for reference. And even then, usually, their nose just gets fleshier.
And it's more likely to grow unideally and make you look like a 0 appeal ogre.

HGH is not gonna give you controlled vertical facial growth + big ass nose.

It's more likely to cause unwanted acromegalic changes like a bulkier nose, big ass ears, brow ridge, forward jaw growth (protrudes, not the good kind), and overall facial coarsening (which is ugly as shit).

The goal here is to have a harmonious face, and if you plan on taking HGH in dosages for facial bone growth, you're gonna fuck yourself up.

So in short, HGH will not change your fucked up bones, and if it does change, it'll just fuck your bones up more + you get a fat ass nose and big ass ears.

click the thumbs up on all my replies pls n thanks :):)
 
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I've talked about this before; I'll paste it here.

Chances are your nose and ears are just gonna get big as shit if you blast HGH for facial growth, bones might grow, but it's just not worth.
You'd have to blast 10+ IU for years non-stop, look at bodybuilders that blasted for reference. And even then, usually, their nose just gets fleshier.
And it's more likely to grow unideally and make you look like a 0 appeal ogre.

HGH is not gonna give you controlled vertical facial growth + big ass nose.

It's more likely to cause unwanted acromegalic changes like a bulkier nose, big ass ears, brow ridge, forward jaw growth (protrudes, not the good kind), and overall facial coarsening (which is ugly as shit).

The goal here is to have a harmonious face, and if you plan on taking HGH in dosages for facial bone growth, you're gonna fuck yourself up.

So in short, HGH will not change your fucked up bones, and if it does change, it'll just fuck your bones up more + you get a fat ass nose and big ass ears.

click the thumbs up on all my replies pls n thanks :):)
not looking for crazy growth just small enough to not be recessed would 6iu a night be enough
 
I’m thinking almost the same, though I will be turning 16 in January, thinking test only, then maybe add tren with megestrol and what not. Maybe some more things but haven’t quite decided get
u from uk? have u found any good sources ive found some underground labs but they are overpriced af like over a quid per iu of hgh
i live in Sweden, been so hard trying to find a good source (good price+reliable products and shipping)
 
Seeing or feelings any results yet?
my sleep has improved alot so far i dont feel any height increase yet, and i seemed to get slightly leaner but with a puffy face
 
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